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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: Rookie#1 on March 17, 2014, 12:33:19 am
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I'm having less and less time these days and purse strings are also tightening rapidly, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm better off getting rid of the bikes I have a putting the funds into just one old bike that will do everything that I'll call on it for. Tough ask I know but thought I'd see what folks could suggest, the requirements are:
1) Must be pre 78 (or eligible) to race with the CSC here in Vic when I can
2) Must be Evo legal should I want to attend a Viper meet
3) I really don't want a 4t but i would considering it
4) and this ones the clincher, must be ADR compliant or have previous reg history so as can be used in Vic vinduros as they're becoming largely reg bike only events. Will only be club reg so doesn't need everything ADR perfect just a compliant model/frame will do
Soooooo, any suggestions or have i set an impossible task?? :-\
Cheers, Brendan
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1977 PE250 or IT250.
Tex
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Easy Bultaco Pursang / Frontera can race Pre 78 VCM, CSC and it has red plate rego for Vinduro's, trail riding and occasional run up the milk bar. Just change tank,rear guard, chuck on Preston Petty headlight and kickstand. 2 bikes in one! Works for me. Very lightweight and low ride height for old bloke with arthritis compared to swinging leg over IT or PE. J PS it has Mikuni and CDI which eliminates starting issues although it and I don't do well on Drakies dreaded cold starts at Vic vinduros. This may change now Drakie has aquired a Frontera as well! PPS another attraction is that it isn't a PE, IT or XR.
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77 390 auto
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Viper has a pre'78 class as well, but any pre '78 bike can ride in the evo class, or pre '85 & pre '90 for that matter if you want to. You need a Husky WR250 or 390. Both great engines although the 390 is an awesome, easy to ride engine in both MX & enduro. No crap that is not needed on Husky's either, unlike the orientals. Light & easy to clean after a mud ride.
K
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FWIW, bikes only got compliance plates from either January or July 1976.
Anything made before that date can be registered if it meets the RWC requirements.
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I looked long and hard at this a few years ago. My criteria was similar but not identical. For me, the answer was an '84 Husky WR400 with a Honda disc brake front.
A KDX250 with a disc front would be my second choice.
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Honda 750cc K Series, Meets all your above requirements, apart from being your second choice of a four stroke.
The Ubiquitous 754 SOHC engines used in VMX , Road racing , Speedway,Ice speedway, Flat trackers, Dirt track , Trials (yep !) Drag racing, Desert racing. Reliability trials, Enduro, Long distance Raids (Dakar style) Beach and sand sprinting crikey who knows how many other forms of competition. ;) :)
PS Ya can ride the bugger on the road too..... :D
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Honda 750cc K Series, Meets all your above requirements, apart from being your second choice of a four stroke.
The Ubiquitous 754 SOHC engines used in VMX , Road racing , Speedway,Ice speedway, Flat trackers, Dirt track , Trials (yep !) Drag racing, Desert racing. Reliability trials, Enduro, Long distance Raids (Dakar style) Beach and sand sprinting crikey who knows how many other forms of competition. ;) :)
PS Ya can ride the bugger on the road too..... :D
Tim, obviously the chemicals are being dumped at the transfer station today. It seems the fumes must be getting to your head ;D ;D ;)
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something that will do everything and must be pre-78 legal, MT250 or DT250 or Dt360 would be my first choices, easy for parts, easy to work on, and reliable on the road and no problem to rego. I also like BigKs idea of a Husky....lot more money though, still you wouldnt need to modify like the Jap bikes. 4st? No way, too much to go wrong!!! AND any registrable 4st before '78 would need too much work to make a racer IMO, AND the 4st pick for me would be a Motosport 250XL....you do meet the nicest people on a Honda!
Kt
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1977 PE250 or IT250.
Tex
I think if you want a good pre 78, registrable two stroke then Tex is on the money here. Either of these bikes would do the job well although, having one myself, I would also seriously consider the IT400D as well (don't think they did a PE400B did they??).
If you want a eurobike then there is always the huskies and a bunch of others to consider .
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Not keen on a 77 PE 250 due to them looking ugly as fluck! But is the 78 the same frame/engine/gearbox? If so I'm sure my local club won't get too stroppy about running with the pre78's. the 390 husky sounds ok too, I've only ever ridden a 82 wr430 and loooved it, if the 390 offers similar power delivery and gear ratios I could very much see myself on one
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Husky Brakes are a bitch the Jap bikes are easier to fix etc. I dabbled a few times in the late 70's early 80's with Euro bikes and I always went back to the "heavier" Jap bikes as they were easier to live with and ride fast. Why not try and get a YZ 250D and see if you can register it? Or
IT 250 can have a lot of YZ stuff added and can be made to handle and go very fast. Also you can register easily ADR etc
There was a wr250 Husky in Just Bikes but I think it was a 76, I am hunting a IT250 myself so good luck
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the husky's of that era won everything....without much work. the japs needed extensive modifications to compete.
they are simple and agricultural but they do exactly what they were designed for..allow the rider to get to the finish line as fast as possible with as much comfort as possible and as mechanically as simple as possible for quick repairs.
my money is on a 390 with updated ohlins and a Yamaha front wheel (brakes wernt their best point..functional but not as good as the japs )
even updating to a later twin leader could work
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Not keen on a 77 PE 250 due to them looking ugly as fluck! But is the 78 the same frame/engine/gearbox? If so I'm sure my local club won't get too stroppy about running with the pre78's. the 390 husky sounds ok too, I've only ever ridden a 82 wr430 and loooved it, if the 390 offers similar power delivery and gear ratios I could very much see myself on one
430 is excellent in every way, although i doubt you'd get a start in pre'78! As for the 390, the steering is an aquired taste, the rest is excellent, the motor is a ripper even in stock form, was the 390 around in '77? I thought 78 on?
Kt
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I have the answer Brendan its behind my shed IT400D . not pretty but it fits the bill .
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Tim, obviously the chemicals are being dumped at the transfer station today. It seems the fumes must be getting to your head ;D ;D ;)
and loving it ;D
DT250/360 IT250/400 PE 250 and the Huskies all fit your bill. Going elsewhere starts to post harder spares and repairs problems, though they all have some degrees of unobtainium .
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I have the answer Brendan its behind my shed IT400D . not pretty but it fits the bill .
I've got one in my shed and it IS pretty .. only 362 miles on the clock
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I have the answer Brendan its behind my shed IT400D . not pretty but it fits the bill .
;D see the good thing about selling a bunch of bikes to be replaced by just 1 means ill want a bloody good one and just keep it that way!! Looking to shell out 3-5k for the right thing ;)
Cheers, Brendan
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I have the answer Brendan its behind my shed IT400D . not pretty but it fits the bill .
I've got one in my shed and it IS pretty .. only 362 miles on the clock
It's a consideration Craig and I wondered if you still had it, although I do like the idea that the 77-78 huskies had the amount of suspension travel that the japs didn't start producing until the early - mid 80's
Cheers, Brendan
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Not keen on a 77 PE 250 due to them looking ugly as fluck! But is the 78 the same frame/engine/gearbox? If so I'm sure my local club won't get too stroppy about running with the pre78's. the 390 husky sounds ok too, I've only ever ridden a 82 wr430 and loooved it, if the 390 offers similar power delivery and gear ratios I could very much see myself on one
430 is excellent in every way, although i doubt you'd get a start in pre'78! As for the 390, the steering is an aquired taste, the rest is excellent, the motor is a ripper even in stock form, was the 390 around in '77? I thought 78 on?
Kt
I wasn't expecting to sneak a 430 into pre 78, even I wouldn't push my luck that far ;D ;)
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Brendan ,390 Huskies fit the bill ,easy to maintain ,very reliable if you buy a good one, fast with bags of torque spare parts that flow through models ,lighting and power circuits on all models ,and competitive with neutral handling regards Jimbo ps I've used the same bike for every thing for twenty years without a major issue
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Brendan ,390 Huskies fit the bill ,easy to maintain ,very reliable if you buy a good one, fast with bags of torque spare parts that flow through models ,lighting and power circuits on all models ,and competitive with neutral handling regards Jimbo ps I've used the same bike for every thing for twenty years without a major issue
Thanks for the input Jimbo, prob yours and Bigk's input the most valid when it comes to Huskies. So now the question.....who's got a good one?? 8)
Cheers, Brendan
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Brendan if you are after a pre 78 one rarity is you problem, no wr 's in 77 2061 prefix motor same as 78/79 ,1980 cr's are different ,in 78/79/ 80 frame differ in both cr and wr but are all good , basically the newer they are the higher they are though height can be tailored regards Jimbo ps. just built a 79 wr 250 for my brother and she is a little rocket that we will classic reg. through Veri for course
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Brendan, you have missed the obvious choice. made in 1977 they come in red, white or yellow plastic kits, what ever colour you like.
have a good seat height, reasonable suspension, 400cc would be the pick with an upgrade to electronic ignition so you can start them.
local service agent, there are plenty of spares around? Neil.
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Didn't you have a Maico once before ? good toy though Neil, personally speaking a 79 gs 400 would fit the bill.
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Brendan, you have missed the obvious choice. made in 1977 they come in red, white or yellow plastic kits, what ever colour you like.
have a good seat height, reasonable suspension, 400cc would be the pick with an upgrade to electronic ignition so you can start them.
local service agent, there are plenty of spares around? Neil.
Yeah I've even considered one of them but availability of a good one I think would be limited, I'll see what pops up as I have no problem owning an exotic if its the only old bike I need to maintain. I hear a good one is only ever a phone call away ;D ;)
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One bike is too big an ask
IT or KDX 200 for vinduros as they are the best all rounders
then choose your favorite pre 78 bike that you feel the most comfortable on
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Brendan - the suspension comment isn't quite right?
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Brendan - the suspension comment isn't quite right?
Really? the 77 IT, PE,RM,CR,YZ have the same or more suspension travel as the Husky 390??
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How about a 74 MT250 Rookie? Can be ridden in pre75 and pre78. Low seat height, good useable power and road registerable. I can offer you mine for good money. PM me if you are interested. CR250M top end, CR ignition, CR fork internals, YSS shocks, CR alloy tank, CR swing arm, CR seat, 76 CR airbox and carbie, CR side covers modified to fit like the factory would have done, Alloy wheels, NOS DG up pipe, Renthal bars and 77 IT yamaha lights front and back. Lights are easily removed for MX. Widened footpegs. One of a kind, totally rebuilt from the ground up, that is pretty easy to get parts for if you ever need them.
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Some rebuild pics of the MT
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One bike is too big an ask
Not necessarily as long as you are able to deal with some limitations.
I had an IT250K that I rode in pre 85 class at VIPER, used for vinduro and also had rec registered and rode in a couple of Blue Light Rallies plus general trail riding. It had a compliance plate so I could have got full rego if I'd been so inclined.
Tex
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My 77 CR Husky 360 is probably my most versatile bike. Being reed vavle makes Vinduro a bit easier.
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Some nice rescue going on here
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I think I will try my GS250 81 reed Maico at the next Vinduro. Ratios are not that wide, certainly Motocrossessss well and is certainly no slouch.
Or maybe an earlier GS400(reach the ground when off-camber).
For a four stroker, I can see why mr Ballard loved and enduroed the 84 XR500, I keep wondering where I could cut 20Kgs from it ::) I wonder how the XR350's are?
The idea of an alllrounder certainly appeals.
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Brendan - love these type of discussions - what I meant was you mention early to late 80's before the Japs matched the Euors for travel - you don't get much more travel than a 78 CR250?
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Brendan - love these type of discussions - what I meant was you mention early to late 80's before the Japs matched the Euors for travel - you don't get much more travel than a 78 CR250?
Yeah thats true, i guess in my mind im comparing enduro bikes with motocrossers, not fair comparisons. I'm kinda liking the idea of a Euro though.
How about a 74 MT250 Rookie? Can be ridden in pre75 and pre78. Low seat height, good useable power and road registerable. I can offer you mine for good money. PM me if you are interested. CR250M top end, CR ignition, CR fork internals, YSS shocks, CR alloy tank, CR swing arm, CR seat, 76 CR airbox and carbie, CR side covers modified to fit like the factory would have done, Alloy wheels, NOS DG up pipe, Renthal bars and 77 IT yamaha lights front and back. Lights are easily removed for MX. Widened footpegs. One of a kind, totally rebuilt from the ground up, that is pretty easy to get parts for if you ever need them.
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t642/markhills1/1974%20MT250/013_zps34e39f18.jpg)
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TBM i've seen this bike and very much liked it when it was listed on ebay, if nothing Euro and satisfactory pops up in the near future we may have to chat further bout this lil ripper ;) :)
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the MT cannot be used for pre 78...(motocross)...at least not at a national level anyway.... pre 78 is for the 75/76/77 model bikes only...
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MT's are very soft c/w cr's of that era....
XR 350...absolute pick of the bunch for 83 - 85 , fabulous xr
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the MT cannot be used for pre 78...(motocross)...at least not at a national level anyway.... pre 78 is for the 75/76/77 model bikes only...
Not being eligible for a Nat's event wouldn't pose an issue for me at all ;) :)
Cheers, Brendan
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If I had to pick that one bike for all occasions.... an IT250H or J 8) 8)
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If I had to pick that one bike for all occasions.... an IT250H or J 8) 8)
Great bikes yes, although what a lot are neglecting to consider is that MUST be a registered or registrable bike... ;)
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Yeah that was what I was considering, a bike I could ride straight from the shed to the bush or track, no trailer etc, and for me would be the close to riding a yz250 8)
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Check the weights of everything your considering. You may be surprised. J
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You must also take into account the availabity off spares Rookie if you plan on using just one
Bike for all events ...
I would look at the 360 / 390 Husky first then work down hill from there ;D ;D
The Stig
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BSA Gold Stars were used successfully for street, ISDT, scrambles, observed trials, flat track and road racing. I've got a friend who does VRR with a trick GS and it sounds like competition-quality replacement parts availability is not a problem, as long as you can afford them.
Plus the GS is likely to increase in value!
:)
cheers,
Michael
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early it's had a built in ejector seat if you hit more than 3 bumps in a row ;D awesome engines though
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the MT cannot be used for pre 78...(motocross)...at least not at a national level anyway.... pre 78 is for the 75/76/77 model bikes only...
The MT can be ridden up one class at club level. Not sure about the Nationals.
MT's are very soft c/w cr's of that era....
XR 350...absolute pick of the bunch for 83 - 85 , fabulous xr
An MT isn't soft when it is more CR than MT. They have the same bore x stroke but the MT had softer porting, less compression and a smaller carbie. Not to mention all the excess weight of a trail bike. As a matter of fact, the MT has a stronger gearbox than the CR, even if the ratios are a little wider. In my opinion, the CR ratios were (are) way too short anyway.
An XR350 is a great bike, but it can't be ridden in pre78, which is what Rookie was asking about.
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You can get 1975 MT250's too they were identical and only cost $700 in the day
just saw the add when I was scanning old newspapers for work.
Now an MR 250 would be a good pick as it was more aligned to the 76 CR250 than to the MT
OR as mentioned earlier get a WR Husky and put a YZ D front wheel and brake in there and you have a very competitive easy to live with (just don't go cheap on pistons if it's a 250 as they can seize)
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Johny Maclean has an MR 250...id never heard of em til I saw his 175
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Had a look at Paul Feney's WR430 today, hmm it's not pre78 buy its bloody nice :-\ ;D Pricey but ya do only get what ya pay for ;)
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I know that bike, it came from here to a client who then sold it on to P.F. Without being rude to the current seller, his price is "optimistic". I sill have the '82 WR430 project bike here. It's low on compression but has good spark. Wouldn't take much to get running if you're not too fussed about making it pretty. I also have a 1980 WR390, (or most of). It's missing cylinder, head & crankshaft but otherwise complete. Cranks are easy but '80 cylinders & heads not so much as they are a different stud pattern to the '77-'79, I have plenty of those but they don't fit! The 420 cylinders fit & make for a bit more torque. The 390 engine is the pick of the husky engines for me. So I have some projects if you want to go that way Brendan.
K
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Have a good think about doing a project mate as the huskys are great to work on and an easy resto. parts are pretty much fully available
As k says, you can mixn match bits and pieces to suit yourself.
Easy to set up for a disc front if you want to go riding with your mates on their newbies and easy to reconvert for vinduro's.
I'm loving the wr 400, having a heap of fun. seriously thinking of ditching the kato 300 and developing the 400 more now ive got club reg on it.
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Johny Maclean has an MR 250...id never heard of em til I saw his 175
They were a very popular mount in the US. I don't think too many, if any 250's made it out here to Australia. I don't think they carry ADR compliance either. Is that an issue for club rego?
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I had a MR 250 that I sold in job lot , didn't think that they were rare thing in OZ, was a heavy thing
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Thanks heaps for all the input here guys, great listening to everyone's opinions and advice considering the the experience and knowledge those opinions and advice are made up of, well I think I'm gonna change 1 of the pre requisites and not worry about it being a pre78 bike. I'll have limited time to actually ever get out racing so no point buying a bike based on 1 of its uses being only 2, maybe 3 times a year. Soooo I think I've decided that I'm just gonna get hold of the bike I've always thought was pretty much the best looking enduro bike of all time, the bike the I feel has a power delivery and engine that suits me so much better than anything else, I'm just gonna buy what I lust for and keep it at that. 1 bike, 1 beautiful bike! :-* i would settle for an 82 but I'd be kidding myself to say they're even a shade as pretty as these things, I know a good one don't come cheap and that's cool, I'm in no rush, she'll turn up :)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/rookie110/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/rookie110/media/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg.html)
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noooice ;D get on to café husky, they have a thread on all the husky's for sale in the world....
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The 83 is much better than the 82 in my opinion. Man up and get a 500 ;D
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The 83 is much better than the 82 in my opinion. Man up and get a 500 ;D
No thanks!! Although the apparatus size qualifies for the ownership rights, the talent's not quite as plentiful ;D ;)
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That's not what I heard........... 8)
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That's not what I heard........... 8)
Don't believe everything you read on the back of low brow establishment toilet doors ;D ;)
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Very happy with my '83 Husky ..... great looker & real nice to ride ;D
Regards ,
Steve
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Husqvarna-WR-430-1983-Husqvarna-WR-430-/231184134153?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35d3a5f009&item=231184134153&pt=US_motorcycles
On US eBay but on east coast unfortunately.
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http://www.cafehusky.com/attachments/a37709_2-jpg.38702/
there is a winner!
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or this!
http://www.cafehusky.com/attachments/hva-51-2014-3000-dollars-jpg.38724/
now that is a real winner for all rounder bar pre 78
stunning engine with thos Jason recliner suspenders!
great bike
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Thanks heaps for all the input here guys, great listening to everyone's opinions and advice considering the the experience and knowledge those opinions and advice are made up of, well I think I'm gonna change 1 of the pre requisites and not worry about it being a pre78 bike. I'll have limited time to actually ever get out racing so no point buying a bike based on 1 of its uses being only 2, maybe 3 times a year. Soooo I think I've decided that I'm just gonna get hold of the bike I've always thought was pretty much the best looking enduro bike of all time, the bike the I feel has a power delivery and engine that suits me so much better than anything else, I'm just gonna buy what I lust for and keep it at that. 1 bike, 1 beautiful bike! :-* i would settle for an 82 but I'd be kidding myself to say they're even a shade as pretty as these things, I know a good one don't come cheap and that's cool, I'm in no rush, she'll turn up :)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/rookie110/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/rookie110/media/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg.html)
I have a 83 one of those in my shed and the owner lets me ride it now and then.
They get real fast real quick and dig really big trenches.
Nice bike.
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Thanks heaps for all the input here guys, great listening to everyone's opinions and advice considering the the experience and knowledge those opinions and advice are made up of, well I think I'm gonna change 1 of the pre requisites and not worry about it being a pre78 bike. I'll have limited time to actually ever get out racing so no point buying a bike based on 1 of its uses being only 2, maybe 3 times a year. Soooo I think I've decided that I'm just gonna get hold of the bike I've always thought was pretty much the best looking enduro bike of all time, the bike the I feel has a power delivery and engine that suits me so much better than anything else, I'm just gonna buy what I lust for and keep it at that. 1 bike, 1 beautiful bike! :-* i would settle for an 82 but I'd be kidding myself to say they're even a shade as pretty as these things, I know a good one don't come cheap and that's cool, I'm in no rush, she'll turn up :)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/rookie110/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/rookie110/media/image_zps6a5d4be0.jpg.html)
I have a 83 one of those in my shed and the owner lets me ride it now and then.
They get real fast real quick and dig really big trenches.
Nice bike.
Now if he keeps it in your shed........and doesn't ride it all that much...maybe this fella would consider selling it.....TO ME ;) :D
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Brendan, if you get a good one and fall out of love with it
I may know a guy that would look after it?
Don't rule out the 250 if you come across one, also an excellent bike.
If you want a ride at CSC let me know I my be able to sort out something .
It may be a different brand!! Neil
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Man up and get a XC500? Really, do want this poor fellow to hurt himself?
I had one that was setup by the guys at Penrith for some A grader in 83 and Man up is an understatement! Elsewhere I said the 84 Honda CR500 was an Evil hand full but the 500XC was that and more. I have less than fond memories or spearing off a trail in an enduro (No retardation from front brakes)
but
it was the amount and type of power that makes me wish I had one today. Still not pre 78 but one hell of a Evo bike if you can find one I guess.
But I would start Jogging, cycling, weight Training and lots of practice practice practice if you want to be fast on one!
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Rookie *1
Mate surprised me and said " if the money's right "
Look
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Mecs 100%
Not a thing to do on mec side except refit speedo cable and new back m/guard [ crazy cracks ] both supplied.
But
Needs tank repainting [ crazy cracks ] and a detail.
Not rego'd.
Pm me.
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Now that would be a handful on the road.
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Are they xc / cr legs?? twin leader on that model? ( I cant remember :( :'()
nice bike and just what Mr Rook o 1 needs for his all rounder!!
keep the plastics "usuable," ditch the speedo into a box, cant look at it on one of these, they go too fast!
if you can look ...upgrade to the 500!!
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That bike (430 ?) looks to be a nice example . :)
Looks to have the TLS front brake & shorter WR suspension .
I have the timing slightly retarded on my XC500 , tames the power a little & makes the bike real nice to ride ;D
Regards ,
Steve
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Rookie *1
Mate surprised me and said " if the money's right "
Look
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Mecs 100%
Not a thing to do on mec side except refit speedo cable and new back m/guard [ crazy cracks ] both supplied.
But
Needs tank repainting [ crazy cracks ] and a detail.
Not rego'd.
Pm me.
Sorry guys I should have said that it's a 430WR.
If you look close you can see the deco valve in the head.
The 430 is under the blue sticky tape to confuse the coppers when we are out riding in the forestry :o
Goes like a stabbed rat this one.
Leaves my 85/400WR for dead but handles different.
Front brakes aren't too bad either.
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My old 85.5 WR400 had a Husky TLS front brake. It was one of the best front drums I've used - I reckon it was comparable to the Yamaha TLS front, but the Husqvarna one arrived in the disc era and was overlooked.
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its weird as some of those husky brakes were shocking. I had a good one on my 240 but ol mates 510 wouldn't even lock the wheel.
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Did this 430 sell?
Looks to be a nice (unmolested) example ; = tidy start for good bike to do up.
These bikes, set up / done proper are a nice ride .
Regards ,
Steve
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80-85 Husky
That explains it then, the 2 bikes I had were shocking to say the least and they were so fast that it made it seem even worse!
My Honda's and Yanaha's could lock the front easily and the Husky was barely able to retard you enough to be able to race competitively.
the Alloy tank XC was average but the Plastic tank XC was disastorous, When I would go and talk with the importer at Penrith he would scratch his head and and take more of my money to resolve it :)
this one had bad brakes compared to a IT 465
(http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t544/enzo906/VMX/HusqvarnaXC500_zps119cd5ad.png) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/enzo906/media/VMX/HusqvarnaXC500_zps119cd5ad.png.html)
this one had bad brakes compared to any bike I have ever owned (over 60 so far)
(http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t544/enzo906/VMX/HusqvarnaXC500b_zpsd601d6d8.png) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/enzo906/media/VMX/HusqvarnaXC500b_zpsd601d6d8.png.html)
Just my experience and as mention in other replies it does not mean all Huskies had this issue, I am sure Pelle Granquists 390 had decent brakes ;)
BUT
I loved them both with a passion as they were 500cc MX'ers that I could ride down the road legally and then head up into the Forests!
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Which bike for ALL occasions??!!!
There isn't one.
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Which bike for ALL occasions??!!!
There isn't one.
Probably not, but we've had nearly 2000 views on this thread and 6 pages so far of agro free discussion so im glad i asked ;)
Cheers, Brendan
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Yep good stuff!!!! :D :D :D :D Cheers
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Well, a mate & myself have taken my own advice and have a couple of 390 Huskies on the way right now. Can't go wrong.
K
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that's the money shot there I rekon... ;D
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May be of interest to some ?
Regards ,
Steve
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1983-HUSQVARNA-WR430-VMX-CR-RM-YZ-KTM-/131157618975?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item1e899a711f
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May be of interest to some ?
Regards ,
Steve
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1983-HUSQVARNA-WR430-VMX-CR-RM-YZ-KTM-/131157618975?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item1e899a711f
Have already made an offer ;)
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its weird as some of those husky brakes were shocking. I had a good one on my 240 but ol mates 510 wouldn't even lock the wheel.
I can get the rear wheel into the air if I try on my 85/400.
I have a GN DLS fitted to my 78/250 PE with the same results except the frame/forks do funny things when I try. :o
It's all in the setup and it's real simple to do , no tricky bits at all .
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stoppies were no drama on the old 240 but I will have to work on my 400, its a weight transfer trick ive lost after using disc brakes to do it on the ktm!
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(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m605/Husky500evo/a9d968d1-c224-44ee-95ac-5dd032603710_zps4532361a.jpg) (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/Husky500evo/media/a9d968d1-c224-44ee-95ac-5dd032603710_zps4532361a.jpg.html)
I saw this thread a while back, but was too busy at the time to put up a post and wanted to have a look back through some of my old photos first. The original post was asking about a bike that would be pre '78 legal and be able to have multiple other uses. I owned this Husqvarna framed TT500, back around about 1980. I had it road registered and rode it to work , but also used it to race motocross, enduro, flat-track, hillclimbs and general trail riding. I think that the frame was from a '78 WR, which is pretty much the same as a '77 CR frame. It felt heaps lighter than a XT/TT Yamaha, handled well and the suspension worked ok too. I had it fitted with Ohlins remote reservoir shocks, a set of Ceriani magnesium forks and Yamaha wheels (so the brakes were ok as well ). It did everything that I asked of it, so I would say it was a bike for all occasions and I probably should never have sold it.
But if I was going to have just one bike now to have road registered and race Evolution class motocross, it would be an '81 Maico GS490. I am a big fan of Huskys and have owned '82 and '83 WR430s, as well as '83 and '84 XC500s. But I would rate the Maico as a better and easier to live with bike than the Huskys.
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Interesting how everyone has a different opinion or experience. I too have owned 490 Maico's but am adamant that the Huskies are easier to live with than Maico's. I guess if we were all the same the world would be a boring place.
K
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I like that Yamvarna. That would make a Husky so much easier to live with....
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Interesting how everyone has a different opinion or experience. I too have owned 490 Maico's but am adamant that the Huskies are easier to live with than Maico's. I guess if we were all the same the world would be a boring place.
K
My main gripe with Huskys is the use of Magnesium. The small amount of weight saved isn't worth the hassles with corrosion and brittleness later on and it is very difficult to repair. It is very hard to find a set of (2061) Husky 390 crankcases that aren't cracked or corroded and clutch covers for 430s and 500s are much the same (and that is before we even start talking about watercooled motors and Magnesium). On the 430/500 motors, you have to change the needle roller bearing that the kickstart idler gear runs on, regularly, or the sideplay in the gear will wear out and feather the gear on the back of the clutch basket. If the ignition timing is even slightly too advanced on the 500s, they will kick back and have a tendency to crack the left crankcase half. The 500s vibrate a lot as well and can be hard to start if they are not jetted correctly. If a WR430 or 500 still has a working SEM ignition, it would be the first thing I would change for a Motoplat or aftermarket ignition. It sounds like I don't like Huskys, but I have a dozen or more of them and would prefer them over just about any Jap bike of the era. Most of the problems can be avoided with proper set up and the use of things like a decompresser in the head for easier starting and an aftermarket aluminium clutch cover.
The Maico 490 is not without issues either , but I still think that they feel lighter, turn better and generally handle nicer than the Huskys. You need to keep an eye on the primary chains and regularly change the gearbox oil, as it only holds 600ml. I would spend the money on the best set of rear shocks I could buy for the Maico, if it was going to be my only bike. I would also change the Magnesium front brake backing plate for an aftermarket billet aluminium one with the extra mounting bolt and use the brake shoes with the Kevlar material used on rollercoaster brakes. Some people say that Maicos are hard to start, but maybe I have been lucky as all mine have been easy, with a decompresser on them standard , a Bing carby and a good Motoplat ignition.
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About to start looking seriously for a nice 83 WR430.
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home from work eh rookie ;D
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check out visiteur1948's thread on cafe husky. he is spotting huskies for sale all over the world....
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Good luck Brendan!
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Have you come into some cash Brendan?
Great bike good luck with the search, don't rule out the 250
For the style of riding we do it's a great option. The Canberra
Or NSW boys had an XC 250 for sale a while ago?
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Have you come into some cash Brendan?
;D You've gotta be kidding, if i had any less i'd be eligible for meal coupons ;D
don't rule out the 250
For the style of riding we do it's a great option. The Canberra
Or NSW boys had an XC 250 for sale a while ago?
Yeah i should have bloody bought it when i had the chance!! A good bike, very fairly priced.
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Hey Rookster, Big K has a nice 390 on the blocks ready for final touches, check it out, send him a PM