2013 Classic Dirt Track Champs - Main Thread

[Purple Dave]

Trust me to bite off more than I can chew, Steve.......I will just have to put on my Race Face !! It's all good fun.  :'(

[Curly3]

Langy will probably be there officiating so you can always put in a protest about something and have a good arguement with him but you won't win.

[Slider29]

The return of the PURPLE NURPLE,... GO GET 'EM ALVIN
                   regards   Mark

[pancho]

Alvin makes them sing ting a ling

[52]

You know, I can't help but feel this tyre restriction idea is a bit over the top. Why bother? After all, it's an Aussie championship, and traditionally people build the best bike within the rules. The blokes who don't have the money or talent aren't going to be the champion - they'll be there to ride and be part of it. Trying to enforce a level playing field is a mug's game. What next - fuel restrictions, engine restrictions, skill restrictions?

Look, it's dirt track on an oiled circuit. I'd much rather watch 80's model bikes running big wheels/tyres like they did back in the day, or US style flat-trackers with Carlisles etc than to see everything forced onto 18" trials tyres.

Why not just stick with the rules as they are?

By the way, does anyone enforce rule 20.2.1.2 in modern dirt track? Note that this rule does not apply to Classic Dirt Track.

I agree, the single brand tyre thing in the US is just being put into their All-Star series and has been widely divisive,on flattrack.com.

[colmoody]

I"m a bit slow on the up take on this one. Are we advocating anything goes re tyre choice at Temora because it is an oiled track or does the brand and size still have to be period correct. Didnt make it Griffith a couple of years ago for Classic Dirt Track Champs but understand Griffith and Temora are similar surfaces.

[Curly3]

Col, Griffith is loose oiled dirt where as Temora is hard packed oiled dirt, like Taree is now and Nepean used to be.
From what I can see, the only tyre not allowed on DT is an MX style Knobby on the rear.
Tyre choice has and always will be a matter of personal preference.
DT history is littered with stories of wrong tyre choice at big meetings, it was only last years DT Champs in Canberra when all the talk was that the track would be well groomed for the finals, a leading rider from QLD put brand new tyres on for the finals but guess what, the track was only watered.
Point being, the new edge was useless on the slick surface.
How long is a piece of string.

[JAP 454]

Col, the Temora club was proposing, and maybe still are, that the tyres to be  used at the 2013 Australian Classic/Post Classic Dirt Track Championships be limited to trials/ speedway type only.

My comment was that if a type of tyre was ok to use back in the day , it should be ok to use now. IE tyre choice should be up to the rider.
Foss

[Sorelegs11]

Received my calender etc from Mitas yesterday and all you blokes with dirt trackers have another choice for 19'" wheels with dirt track tyres now on the menu.
They come in 130/80-19   140/80-19 also listing a motard  140/80-19 & 3.00-21
Looks like a 19" rear wheel might be on the cards for the 490!

[52]

i might be racing 3 sliders which will have road tyers on the back or speedway .
front will not be a trials tyer.
you cant restrict the tyre choice unless you provide them at a discount.mine will be 23 front 19 rear.yes i know v rubber and others make trials tyres in 19 but that will be 450.00 plus just for tyres no thanks
jim
454
[/quote, This is part of the problem, if we all only rode 1 motorcycle the cost of (at minimum) a trials front isn't much @ $100 but most of us come with a few old bangers.

[Purple Dave]

My last time at Temora in 1974, I ran a Knobby on the SC 500........reason why ?.........It was the best tyre to get the beast out of the gate !!......was running 2nd in the Senior Final until that man LANGY caused my accident.....NO MORE KNOBBIES......looks like a different tactic needed in 2013. 

[colmoody]

Having a think about it, surfaces are just that. They are/were what they were 10, 20 30 50 years ago and are what they are today. I dont think to much has changed there. My question is, do I have to comply with the rules and regs re tyres for my pre 75 bike for Temora (like we all have been happy to to do I think  for the last how ever many Aust Classic Dirt Track Champs) or can I lace up a couple of seventeen inch rims and run the the latest and greatest tyres of my choice because Temora is hard packed oiled surface. For the record and maybe riders in other classes see it differently but I am happy to continue with the status quo.

[JAP 454]

That's the point, Col, I'm buggered if I can find any tyre rules in the 2012 GCRs for Classic/ Post Classic DT, only 1 for sidecars :-18.6.01m
Sure, there's one for solos in the Dirt Track GCRs, where it limits the width to 6 inches or so.
Foss

[colmoody]

Thanks for reply/s Foss. To be honest I have never turned a page in the GCR's in my life so would'nt have a clue as to what they say re tyre choice. From memory, normally supp regs put out by prompting Club normally say knobby rear tyres are not allowed at this meeting. I have no problem with that for obvious reasons. Speaking from the point of view from someone whom rides a chookie in the Pre 75 class what we used to run way back when was 18 inch Trials Uni and 21 inch knobby (on rims as supplied on the bike from the factory). Yes we are blessed with more brands to choose from these days but essentially the patterns have not changed. From what I can recall frames of the day used to run 23 inch front (pretty well still no choice on tyre there) and 19 inch rear. Depending on the surface that was either a speedway pattern or Dunlop K70.
Can't speak for other classes/era's but would have thought that if everybody plays the game the surface of where ever is irrelevent.

[JAP 454]

Looks like we're reading from the same page Col, I have two bikes, a chookie framed XT and a Hagon framed TT. I was toying with the idea of offering someone a ride , at the Temora Nats, on the chookie, the # 59 Glenn Gall Special, it's a biggun, on alky and it would tear a trials tyre to bits on oil, Slides rode it at Nepean and it freakin' near melted the Michy.

Anyhoo, 'nuff said on the subject, let's see what Ash and the club come up with.

Seeing as I 99.99999 percent act as an official these days, someone's got to, I see too much of the GCR's.
AAh well , it keeps me involved in the sport, Roll on the Temora Nats !!!
Foss