Before this sinks into another one of those shitfights that detract from the main focus here, I should try and put this to bed. I've been a bit precious and probably have overreacted to Graeme's post after I misread what he was trying to say (
actually, I don't know what he was trying to say ) so probably owe you an apology mate.
Motomaniac has perfect right to defend Mr Nimmo as a few have done for me. That's what mates are for.
There are a few points in Moto's post that I feel I should address. This is not a criticism of Motomaniac as I've never met him. It's just me putting my take on his 'accusations'.
Where are all these mythical personal attacks
I don't mind anyone having a shot at my opinions, my beliefs or even my bikes as long as they have a good counter argument. That's what good debate is. I draw the line however when the criticism becomes personal, using schoolboy inuendo and snickering to make fun of me personally. If Mr Nimmo hadn't removed all of his posts I too could spend a day going through them but it's now not possible. His sniggering smart arse remarks at the 'good ol boys' and other childish stuff was just that, childish and while I didn't like it. I mainly put up with it. However when he renamed his account 'Faaarrrk' and used a photo of me as his avatar and
[email protected] as his phony email contact, Nimmo had stooped to a new level of snide nastiness, setting up an account purely to lay shit on me. Previous to that, during a debate over the Chinese Metisses he'd posted an unflattering photo of me for no other reason than to try and embarrass me. He must have known that the shit would hit the fan because he not long after removed every post he'd made on the forum. What's that about?
Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,
WTF? This situation has nothing to do with me. It was between another member and Nimmo. I challenge anybody to find any posts where I have criticised Montesas (
bar a mild swipe at King Scorpions being heavy ). I even went in on Nimmo's side in that discussion by correcting a few errors in the other guy's assumptions on the downfall of Montesa. Having said that, Nimmo performed like a pork chop over one bloke having an opinion that he didn't like. Moto, I own and love Maicos, and they cop shit from all quarters almost weekly but I couldn't give a rats arse what others think about them. Nimmo's performance over Jeffs
opinion said more about Nimmo the bloke than anything about Montesas.
the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
I think you're getting two people confused here and I'm not one of them. Nor did Jeff from the previous Montesa discussion. He and I had nothing to do with the above situation and I strongly disagreed with the action by that guy at the time, and still do. I abhor violence or even threatened violence and that situation was handled by Graeme by rightly banning the guy from the forum. I remind you again...it had nothing to do with me or any of the 'good ol' boys'.
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "
Errrr, nope. The first time Mr Nimmo had a disagreement to my knowledge was way back in a thread that arose over David Hicks' release from Guantanamo Bay. A number of people including Nimmo criticised the Hicks release and as was my right I took another stand and reckoned that Hicks had been gaoled on trumped up charges and deserved to be released. Well..all hell broke loose and Nimmo went ballistic over this and when I replied (jokingly I might add) that he should calm down and possibly seek anger management therapy. That was it. Boom, crash Opera. He's hated me ever since.
victorians don't like to travel"
I barely remember that statement, perhaps some context would make it more relevent.
I think the statement was in regard to getting Victorians to travel to other states for big events or even Classic Dirt. In my years of running bigger events it was a fact that the majority of Victorians preferred to remain in their own state and pursue their own events. The statement wasn't referring to the amount of travelling you blokes do withing your own state following the series, it purely refers to travelling interstate.
Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.
We'll beg to differ on that one. There are others on this forum who would argue the toss with you over that. Once again, you've got his side of the yarn but the reality was different. Others became involved and legal action became a possibility unless something was done. There was a lot of off forum action over this one so you'd be forgiven for not knowing the full context of the situation.
On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats
Unless I'm mistaken ,you weren't at the Nats, don't know the situation so why comment? The bike is blatantly n incorrect by MA vintage MX rules because of its modified frame and other points but it got through scrutineering, causing concern from myself and others. This bike has caused controversy before and I was merely stating an opinion, as is my right.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
Are you talking politics or general VMX stuff here? You often post controversial politically oriented posts that can often evoke a differing opinion. We're all different in our thoughts and beliefs and we're not always right in some peoples eyes, that's the way of the world. I don't think I personally have ever called you a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused you of bullying. I rarely enter into that stuff these days as my politics seems to be vastly to the left of many of you guys so I couldn't be bothered arguing the toss any more. I've been called names myself (commo, for one) and in that instance, couldn't care less. That stuff's not that important to me any more. As far as VMX issues, if I have personally done any of the above acusations towards you (which I doubt I have) I'm sorry.
Now let's get over this bullshit and move forward. There's been too much angst from both me and others that's done little good for this forum so let's move on, agree to disagree on some things and work together on the stuff we have in common.