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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: VMX247 on February 17, 2009, 09:52:07 pm
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Here is the stage we are up to on the TM. 8)
Have to measure for the right size crate to send it to down town Conondale in Qld for August.
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cool keep the pictures coming
as you progress along 8)
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whats the IGn box off ? is it an early TM or of somthing else ?
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As far as I know its off the TM,just as I bought it,
7 years ago.
but I know that the 78 PE250 coil and cdi works just fine,cause that's me spare 8)
Steven
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Hi VMX, are they TM forks? Have you ridden the bike yet with these forks. I am thinking about getting a pair I know of for a bike I am putting together. Any feedback or help with pre-75 forks appreciated as this class is new to me...... except for my XR 75 from 1874!!!.
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Very nice work, I am impressed.
I can not wait to see it in the flesh come August.
Doesn't a rebuilt bike give you a happy warm feeling inside, when I walk into a bike shop to get parts I just don't see the new bikes like I once did.
Ji
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im thinking the 74/75 was Square black box with ribs at the top, that one looks more like a later ts or similar, be good to know if it works and such with the curve, be good to stick that in the Kit bag if its a cheap alternative.
Some mob are doing 125 one's new for a hungy out of thialand or somwhere but never seen them do the TM 250, which would be just as easy if they are set up. must follow that one up...............
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Steve - looks nice. Will we see it out locally before the Nats????? Shame it isn't as good as a Yamaha though eh!!!!!! :D :D :D
luv ya
Rossco
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Nice project :) those forks look like RM 125A or later moder TS forks .
What size is your XL in the back ground ? will that be coming to Connondale as well ?
Keep the pics coming , its always nice to watch a project grow :)
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suzuki27 and the rest.
I need to start with the history of the bike a bit. I purchased the TM off one of the original WA McCullock Suzuki Mechanics, A bloke by the name of Shane Thompson. Shane had collected a lot of TM stuff and probably built this bike from a collection of the bits he had. Being a Suzuki man he new what could work with what.The forks as far as I would know would be TM. I brought all of Shane's collection of bits, which included fork sets and they are all pretty similar.So if they look like something else - you guys would know more than me. The forks work pretty good. I run a couple of spacers for pre load and a couple of pound of air. Then I think you just have to hold on - -- don't you? At the end of the day the forks still go up and down the same amount as any other. Just thinking - it would not surprise me if the were of something later - knowing Shane ::)
Shane unfortunately came amiss on a modern bike at a local enduro and now sports his own set of wheels, unfortunately they are pretty well attached to himself.
I have raced this bike for several seasons, prior to going big bore. The truth being I killed two engines in quick succession, lost a bit of interest in running a 250 against the open class bikes. (WA runs graded racing most of the time - not capacity) The TM is no slouch though - or the open class boys were a bit slow off the mark. ;D
The XL is 350 - bored to 420 and it undertook a major weight loss program. If it could be machined or drilled it was. Hubs, forks, bolts head, barrel. you name it. I think it lost around 15 kg from memory. Different cam and have recently changed gearbox ratios to 250. Its not going to the Nats. I chose the TM, why - it was time to put it back together & It goes like a power of piss. eh Rosco. Mind you the xl goes too but doesn't handle like the 250 :P
Yes Rosco I will be riding it this season. The XL will probably be out first until the TM is ready, I really want to get back on the 250 for a while. It was a good fun bike to ride and could be backed into corners so easy.
Freaky- the ignitions. --- well it was bolted to it when I brought it. However one day I thought I had an issue with ignition. I have a few spare PE bits, so to see if it works I chucked one on with its coil. It ran and I didn't know any difference. Simple electrical wiring principals - the plugs all went together and it started - what more do you want?
Thanks for the encouragement from all
Steven
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next pic for a while 8)
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I remember now Steve - that TM won me a jersey in a photo comp!!!!
:D
Rossco
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Getting another tanked painted by the brother-in-law at the moment.
is it still
Aspen Yellow 163 3Y 10/8,
or does someone know the new numbers/codes, as he can't seem to find it easily.
cheers Alison
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Its #163 Phlolina yellow and you can't get it anymore because it contained lead, if you have a nice bright NOS item in this colour then you may find a close colour match, otherwise if your using aftermarket plastics match it to them.
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Thanks CG..
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Its #163 Phlolina yellow
(http://ibqjdg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pA6sdsL6AiefrJGkl-DJdSxxJV4_5nD3tAOBQDXF2rBDsvQVU1I5YTRGPYhoEgpiPgt8o5IiBVvw/PE_paint.jpg)
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Thanks very much to all.
I will pass/email info onto the brother-in-law.
cheers
alison
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I believe it was only the J and K '72/'73 models that came out in Aspen Yellow. Although it's a shared listing it's a lighter yellow than the Phlolina Yellow of the '74 and onwards TM and RM's. My best advice for paint is wait till you have your guards and then have the paint colour matched to those and or have the whole lot painted at once. Parts Plus 'yellow glow' is very close to the Aspen yellow ;) nice project by the way, look forward to seeing it completed 8)
colour chart below
http://cid-86267c09a3452a71.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Vintage%20Suzuki%20General%20Technical%20and%20Specifications/Suzuki-Colour-Codes.pdf?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=34596988 (http://cid-86267c09a3452a71.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Vintage%20Suzuki%20General%20Technical%20and%20Specifications/Suzuki-Colour-Codes.pdf?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=34596988)
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I noticed that paint formula had a lot of clear in the mix. Would be a good idea to spray it over a White base. If you try to spray it over any colour other than white, you wont get the right match. This goes for a lot of yellows. ;D
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Hi Alison/Steve, Andy and I use Holts Duplicolour in Ford Yellow Glow on our TM tanks and Plastics. regards Mike Gordon.
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you can get some real good results with Holts, use their primer (bumper primer on plastic) and clear. I have used light grey primer under every color with no special problem.
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but obviously Mike - doesn't make YOU any faster!!!! ;D ;D
Sorry - just could not resist a chance at a dig - especially after the email Andy sent me the other day! :o
Rossco
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Thanks all,
will keep it all on file for future reference.
Plastics are on there way from Vintage Suzuki US,will match up when they arrive. 8)
S & A WA
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isnt it $5 for the second bike at the nats ?
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isnt it $5 for the second bike at the nats ?
sorry $150 a rider,geez gotta get it right or the forum cops will be bookn me ;) ;D
that's not aimed at you either. ;D
nearly $400 anyway
alison
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Please Identify .......is it 484 ???
Its original TM 250 rear 48 tooth,how do you measure the pitch.??
cheers and thanks alison
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whats 484? do you mean 428?
common chain sizes are
420
428
520
525
530
off the top of my head im not sure on the pitch dimensions but i would have it in a book somewhere.
ok i looked up TM 250 71-75 and they are 525 which is the same as my TS250 which i converted to 520
http://www.vintage-suzuki.com/sprockets.htm
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That's it BINGO 525 -thanks heeps for that info. 8)
Its for sale if you wish-anyone..as our TM is now converted to 520 too. 8)
$35 include postage.
Alison & Steven
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is the 525 the same pitch but a differant width or is that the 530 ?
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yup, 525 has the 520 pitch Freakmeister ;)
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its just fatter right ? so does it need the 525 chain to fit cause its too fat to run on there 520 chain set there using ?
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Got the tank and guards back today. 8)
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That is looking pretty good I would like to see it all together thanks Michael. :)
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Guys be sure he Clear coated ove that sticker, i forgot and rubbed the green out to white , within the first ride. Clear contact might help, in my case to too late she cried, hate to see it happen again. :'(
IS that rear tab in the right place ? has got a lot of angle on it.
LOve the Paint finish is it 2 pac ? does the B.I.L do sidyies ? he does a nice Job :)
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clear coat yep :P
pretty sure its two pack. 8)
B.I.L does great job- takes time though.It had a few dings and dents in it before hand. :(
B.I.L price $130 :-[
cheers S&A WA
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AND FREAKY'S
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AND FREAKY'S
Brother-in-law said that was his last :-X :-\ :'(
Does anyone have a good original picture/photo of the TM250L, as the back mud guard we purchased from US seems to be a bit short.
Thanks in advance.
S&A WA
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T(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i180/mutchoo/Nudgee30-08-08007.jpg)his any good ..... not mine, just a pic I took of swing arm brace ;)
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why does that TM< have mudcatchers ?
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why does that TM< have mudcatchers ?
Early 74 L models had mudcatchers , using up last of the K stock i suppose ???
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Ohhh, ok none of my TM have muddies, just thought it was strange, bit like the position of that gear lever
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My TMS250 is going to have mudcatchers..when I build it that it..I have the rims at least ;D
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Doc , I have a Genuine air box you can have for free ;) I no longer require ..... made a copy of ;D
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here I was thinking a clever man such as yourself would make up 2 really trick items and 'give' 1 to me ;D then I fell out of bed and woke up ::) what's the replica made from oldfella? :)
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Supa dupa space age lite Alloy with a PE/RM pipe :-X I have templates ;)
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I have templates ;)
You can get a special cream for those ;)
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................you'll still have the scars though ;D
Boxed up those cylinders Bill???? :-*
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Been to the post office this morning to see how much they are going to violate me for postage :) just saving up enough will get in the post this week ;)
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Getting there slowly-more will be done, now that tomorrow is the last mx event 8)
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Why is tomorrow your last event.????
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Been to the post office this morning to see how much they are going to violate me for postage :) just saving up enough will get in the post this week ;)
Hey Bill thanks for dropping off my RM5 cases at Chris's by the way.
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marcfx - last meet for the year - starts to get hot from here on in in WA!
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WHat are the foot pegs off ?
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WHat are the foot pegs off ?
78 PE 250 ;D
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And they fit straight on ?
Also on that note i was offered a PE250 motor the other day if anyone interested in buying one
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what sort 77 yes please ;)
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think it said 78 PE 250, didnt ask the price, but happy to pass on offers before he hits ebay with it.
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pm sent freaky thanks alot Michael.
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Wanted TM250L 74 Tank ......as the newly painted tank is 125 :( this 125 is available for sale.
cost $200 negotiable.
postage included.
will post to island of the long white cloud.
cheers S&A WA 8)
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(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/TMTank.jpg)
For sale $200 125 tank.
cheers
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I dont remember you having hairy arms Ali, what are they putting in the water over there? ;D
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That's her drinking arm... :D
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Would that 125 tank fit a TS185? (circa '73)
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Pm sent
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That's her drinking arm... :D
bitch
Would that 125 tank fit a TS185? (circa '73)
Don't know ask Doc
Pm sent
pm sent
SOLD before the ink was dry thanks all.
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Just spotted.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-TM400-TM-400-TM250-TM-TS400-TS250-TS-Gas-Tank_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255935bbe4QQitemZ160410483684QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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Most bike shops have after market ones that fit and Suzuki still sold originals last time I checked.
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Dodgee had issues getting the brake cable for his TM250 not long ago also Alison, had to source it from the US as there was little to nothing to be had locally. Cost was $35US + shipping (about $50au delivered) :-\
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-NOS-CABLE-ASSY-FRNT-BRAKE-58100-16500_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem334710f507QQitemZ220235625735QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-NOS-CABLE-ASSY-FRNT-BRAKE-58100-16500_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem334710f507QQitemZ220235625735QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
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Time flys when ya havin fun ;D .its been 17 months since the TM got put up on the table and its nearly complete for Wandering and 15th Anniversary,though are looking for a............
air inlet pipe between the airbox and the carby for a 74 TM 250
Many thanks
Steven Melvin
We sure don't, not aware of anyone reproducing them.
Thank you for your interest in our products.
Please view our website at www.vintage-suzuki.com for our latest updates.
We appreciate your business.
Thanks,
Tony Boswell
www.vintage-suzuki.com
www.ceetracing.com
did find this info on the forum ;D
John, did you end up finding a close match for your airbox to carb boot ? I have mentioned in the tech talk section a while back , that the junction rubber on a toilet between the delivery pipe & the bowl might work in some situations like this . I can think of no better source for a part for a Harley, than something off a toilet Grin. The toilet delivery pipe measures around 52mm( I think it would easily stretch to 55mm) & the porcelain bowl inlet measures around 80mm ( although I think the rubber is stretched about 10mm to go over it). The junction rubber is only about 60mm long though , making it 25mm too short . You could easily extend either end , by using a small piece of stainless exhaust tube as a coupling & 25mm of radiator hose (just means that you would have 4 hose clamps in there instead of 2) . ;D
cheers and thanks for any input Alison and Steven WA
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This was a problem for me on my TMS185 project and I solved it with a 100mm section of 57mm I.D straight silicon hose (one of those pieces you see connecting turbo intercoolers etc)
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CG - thats a good idea. Steve also check out the Sudco catalogue as they carry absolutely shiteloads of varying carby connectors/pipes/manifolds etc etc etc - even found a NOS one to mount up to a CR250 with a GEM conversion??
cheers
Rossco
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just make sure its soft enough to roll back or squish up or you will do your narna every time you want to mess with the carby. >:(
There is nothing mor frustrating then trying to fit a Hardened rubber between to points. I prity sure i came close to tears the last time it happend, push on one ...push..... pullll..push arrrgh fecking thing go on...... :'(
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pop out the 2 or 3 airbox mounting screws and element, move it all back a little and fit the airbox rubber beforehand..sometimes it's easier and saves a lot of cursing. When working on the bike at the track I loosen off the clamps, remove the slide and simply turn the carb on it's side for internal adjustments rather than removing it completely ;)
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air inlet pipe between the airbox and the carby for a 74 TM 250
will a PE or TS 125 fit ??
I'm ebay searchin and Stevens out wiring up MX kitchen ;D
cheers Alison
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Aunty, I have a NOS floating in amongst my treasures ;) and will see if any PE or Rm in my stash come close. report back soon.
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Aunty, I have a NOS floating in amongst my treasures ;) and will see if any PE or Rm in my stash come close. report back soon.
Thanks stew, 8) there a few on ebay ,but 125.. sshhh Dont tell no one :-X
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Aunty , Rm 125 T (1980) & rm 125 B ( 1977 ) are close in length plus Dia's ;) problem here lies in boot angle- is out by 15 to 20 dgrees. Rm's are paralell where as Tm 250 has a hook shape.
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Aunty , Rm 125 T (1980) & rm 125 B ( 1977 ) are close in length plus Dia's ;) problem here lies in boot angle- is out by 15 to 20 dgrees. Rm's are paralell where as Tm 250 has a hook shape.
Cheers rubber has been reheated and refitted. ;D
Wish 4robs was around again :'(
Now just need a TANK and a new PIPE :P :P
S&A WA
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Just bought 2 Tm 250 tanks in the last month in fair condition ...Evil bay USA , prices are all over the place of late & postage is outragous. Happy hunting ;D
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No ice ,no coke,no bourbon;;Removing the ends after the banging and bombing expansion job :o 10 days to race day :P
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get good welds and reinforce that rear section at the rear mount, i have cracked mine through there every second race, these AFM one dont have the muffler pick up at the back so the end section swing and vibrate its self to crack.
BRace it, but best is to run a support bar up to the old muffler top mount to the back of the new straight pipe section.
Better to do it now if your MX ing other wise youll be doing at later if you lucky, or picking it up the ground if you let it go for too long
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A works bike in the West ;D ain't they purdy 8)
http://www.worksperformance.com/html/about.html
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Into the daylight,bit of a tweak and its all good..got to love Jap 2strokes 8)
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must be real loud to need muffs on ;D nice shocks too
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Those shocks look awesome!!
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it is looking good I can't wait to start on my tm. ;)
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Fark....green grass this time of the year?.....you been wast'n water Ali? :-X
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There the best value for money shocks you can buy at the moment I reckon!!!
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I don't reckon it will handle as sweet as your YZ's but its a start. Will let you know how it goes after next weekend.
After riding your two bikes, I got the horn again. Cant wait. :)
Boy child is riding the XL. By the way he rides a modern I think dad might get a whoopin. Still, it will be fun taking it up to him on a 250. ;D
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I don't reckon it will handle as sweet as your YZ's but its a start. Will let you know how it goes after next weekend.
After riding your two bikes, I got the horn again. Cant wait. :)
Boy child is riding the XL. By the way he rides a modern I think dad might get a whoopin. Still, it will be fun taking it up to him on a 250. ;D
Marc and I will see you there, now that I have his XL250 going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4dXcd20NlU
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Into the daylight,bit of a tweak and its all good..got to love Jap 2strokes 8)
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Geez thats looking nice :o
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Time to get it dirty and enjoy the fruits of your labour.
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shame it's a zook Steve ;D
Rossco
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Time to get it dirty and enjoy the fruits of your labour.
This time has arrived :P Note that colour coordination ;D
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see you tomorrow
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Happy birthday ;)
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TEll me you are still running the PRemix ? ???
i cant see the bottle under the seat and unless you have made a journal outside the mag side to feed that left bearing or removed the shielded disk on that crank bearing your treading on very very thin ice with a bearing failure on that side............... :'(
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Happy birthday ;)
Thank you.I made it to another year. ;D It was a good day headed up to the Ridge to do some skids.
Had a few crownies/coronas and bench raced ;) around the bomb fire.
Race day next day :P
TEll me you are still running the PRemix ? ???
i cant see the bottle under the seat and unless you have made a journal outside the mag side to feed that left bearing or removed the shielded disk on that crank bearing your treading on very very thin ice with a bearing failure on that side............... :'(
quote;Crankcase has been modified/drilled to provide oil to crank bearings.
Great race day Sunday, Zook went real well.
Steven slide out and took the paint off case and exhaust pipe and recieved a bung bent little finger for it. :( hurting today.
cheers A
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Sweet. HAte to see a lock up after all that hard work. :O) go the zoookie
then again after a few rides all that nice work gets pawed anyway, my repainted tank lasted about 3 rides :(
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Jetting runs up the paddock and a new coil-all sweet for tomorrow at Wandering Mill Farm.
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Still not happy with the cdi/coil/and those frustrating bits :(
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Wanst that a new painted tank ? or was that the 125 mistake that was................ either way your rubbing holes in the one, break out the clear contact
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Wanst that a new painted tank ? or was that the 125 mistake that was................ either way your rubbing holes in the one, break out the clear contact
sold the beautiful 125 new jobbie and put the old 250 right one back on ..
some guy came up to Steven on the weekend and said "I have a tank for one of those",Steven said yes -its due for a new one..He said Ive got one you can have all smick and ready to go..one box of beer :o
If it don't rain it pours :P
yep clear contact will be in use. :P
cheers
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well now the old one can ........... come................here............ if it needsa a new home. swap you a 125 one for it :O)
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Hi guys, The tank on Steves bike (with the worn paint) looks like a 125 tank to me. It looks to be too far away from the headstem area to be a 250 tank & the shape at the front lower area is too pointed to be a 250 tank.
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Out with the old in with the new from the UK :P
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Out with the old in with the new from the UK :P
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Where from? and How much?
Be better I suppose than buying NOS...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280526257763&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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RDC International Ltd
[email protected]
01455 845176
184 pds >:( oh well you only live once ;D
cheers A
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didnt think you could fit a PVl to the TM suzukias they didnt fit under the cover or the tapers were out ( somting like that)
is it a NR1058 or NR1061 stator ?
Not the normal analogue 466 black box and coil or this thing an all in one.
can you list out the part numbers stamped on the bits if this actually works on the TM. cheers
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didnt think you could fit a PVl to the TM suzukias they didnt fit under the cover or the tapers were out ( somting like that)
is it a NR1058 or NR1061 stator ?
Not the normal analogue 466 black box and coil or this thing an all in one.
can you list out the part numbers stamped on the bits if this actually works on the TM. cheers
Would have to look at stator number to answer your question.
This was a blank kit from Rex Caunt Racing. We machined the rotor to suit the TM taper. Faced off the original TM stator plate and mounted the PVL to that. CDI & coil are is Rex Caunt Racing units.
So it doesnt fit as a kit but easily machined to do so.
Will get Alison to take a snap and post it when I naext have the ignition cover off.
Works well anyway
Steven
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Freaky...
http://www.rexcauntracing.com/pages/products_pricing.html
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THought so not as easy as it sounds, the yamaha ones are 3 screw fit straight on....
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Foto For Freaky (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/cdi.jpg)
We have spent several nights in the shed trying to get the TM started..
she fires over --push push :(
air cleaner is clear..
gets fuel through to the new carby from USA..http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=4956.msg162237#msg162237
Clear check...
exhaust/pipe not blocked--no rags/cloths
spark is there ,,,but not wet/moisture ???
Bottom end and top wet,but not top of piston ???
All head & gaskets changed and cleaned !
sh..... ???
still kicks over but wont run ??
sh..... ???
make another phone call to younger bro.. :-*
Rings are not a tight fit-air excape found...need new piston and rings.. :-\
some times we should just spend the money.
So no go !! for Bridgetown Grass Track tomorrow.. :'(
Bring on its original purpose CLASSIC NATIONALS ;D
cheers A
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Just a thought, Is it making spark at right time..... check key way to magnet locations. Over and out.
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Just a thought, Is it making spark at right time..... check key way to magnet locations. Over and out.
Thats all good, he' convincend it's the old barrel and leaving too much ring gap :-\
thanks
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Try push starting the forker....you would be surprised how many have a gut full of feul and getting the rev,s up will sometimes start.....anyhow....what are you doing out of the kitchen?
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Geez I think I've been scammed into spending money......... ;D....after month and months of pushing, pulling,boring,minuki carbies,cdi's,f......words ,hours & hours in the shed,frustration,TDC and LDC,polarity,180 degree backward..... the so called electrician has the blue and black wire around the wrong way ::) ::)
unbloodybelievable ;D
Second kick and ring-a-diinng-a-dinngg
cheers Allycat the Kitchen Rat 8)
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Aunty, Good to hear it's all sorted .... happy times ;D
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Get back in the kitchen and cook me f..ken some eggs women!!!! :D
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No forken way...I'd miss out on all the Works Bike choices then (waiting on someone posting up a pre75er) :P ;D
cheers A
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waiting on someone posting up a pre75er
you got it Al :D I want the Commissioner's RN370 8) '74 model I think but no matter the year it's my choice ;D for me it felt like having all the power + more of my RM400C slotted into something as light and flickable as a TM125 ;D
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HOw can you get the wires round the wrong way ? on the pvl they use different size spade clips on the coil and black box ?
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the so called electrician has the blue and black wire around the wrong way ::) ::)
Don't let your electrician take up bomb disposal :o
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I want to change gearing on the TM. I run 520 chain and sprockets. Its been a while but I think the front sprocket was off a DR and I had to machine down the shoulder.
Does anyone know what 520 sprockets fit without any dramas?
I presently run 14, 48. This is way too high and want to go down to a 13 or up to a 51 on the rear.
Your help would be appreciated
Cheers
Steven
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You can get blank rear 520 sprockets in most sizes from John Titman Racing, www.jtr.com.au/ , when you get it just get the guts machined to match your existing sprocket. They are quick to deal with, and honest. ;)
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more specificaly the front sprocket !!
cheers
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GO up on the rear - standard rear fits heaps
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Aftermarket front sprockets available at most bike shops (made by MCS) TM250 spline is the same as many others - Suzuki, Yamaha etc
I had 14t on mine - will get back to you with part number as reference.
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Thanks PBear that info would be good. I dont think I have ever brought a front sprocket, I just used up what Shane had left when I brought his stuff. What rear sprocket were you running with the 14 front?
Cheers Steven
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Thanks PBear that info would be good. I dont think I have ever brought a front sprocket, I just used up what Shane had left when I brought his stuff. What rear sprocket were you running with the 14 front?
Cheers Steven
Hey Ali ... enjoying the on going TM250 saga, bet it will still be going well after the KTM350 is sold off as a beach hack.
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Hi Steve, Couldn't find the old sprocket packaging last night :(- must have gone with all the spares when I sold the bike late last year. I know it came from Craig @ Pal & Panther - he should know which one fits. From memory I had a 44 tooth rear sprocket. Cheers, Andy
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What is a readily available kickstart for the TM250?
I have never had to find one as I had some spares, but am fast running out of serviceable units.
Any sugestions...
Steven
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I purchased a TM400L and couldnt believe the 15,44 gearing that was on the bike, i had my RM400N in pieces and saw that the front sprockets looked the same and yes they are the same, someone had fitted 520 chain/sprockets so i have fitted a 13 tooth front to help the 400 get off the line.
Tim
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What is a readily available kickstart for the TM250?
I have never had to find one as I had some spares, but am fast running out of serviceable units.
Any sugestions...
Steven
Still in need of a spare for the Classic Nats ? !!
cheers us2
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did you contact Mick on the VMXWA for sale section, see if he's got anything left
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did you contact Mick on the VMXWA for sale section, see if he's got anything left
Yes and No he has bits of.One on evilbay at the mo 170 $. :o
cheers A
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i can lend you one at the even if you snap yours.
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i can lend you one at the even if you snap yours.
Much appreciated 8)
cheers A
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remind me to pack one.
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Steve - Ali .... I'm using a Suzuki Dr 400 - Dr 500 on mine. They have the nice curve so it misses the chamber ;)
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Thanks oldfart...
Will borrow of Freaky -check
# plate tab welded-check
filters-checked and clean
fuel 3/4 empty-check
spare chain-check
used old sprockets-check
Paint spare pipe-check
spokes all good-check
clean-check 8)
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Day 1
550km for first night to stay with mum.
Day 2
Abundant wildflowers on road side for another 530km,hung balloons on the highway at the campsite in the bush and was joined by a truck with 24 bikes ,Steve,Kerry,Bill,Mary,Brian and Rebecca from Perth city area.Paul,Nick and Bill from the South West drove on through for another 200 odd km,being the leaders in the great VMX Tour.
Jumped a fence and had a look through the 1877 stone building of the telegraph station.Alot of history with old diffs and truck bodies scattered around,the igenuitty of Australia still very evident, alas..No Ossa's ;)
Day 3
Gave the air tanks a bit a a hit with a star picket to get the air going in the truck so it could do somemore miles.
Day 4
Nullabor Treeless Plain with nice tail wind to take us another 680km, which put us passed the border. Lou and Jenny joined us with a nice 79 Honda on board. Lou has an interesting history with days spent at Claremont Speedway.All stopped into Ceduna for fish n chips on the foreshore.
Day 5
the Eyre Pennisala with great crops to keep the farmers happy.The vmx truck went ahead and pushed on through to PPirie.
Day 6
Another 4ookm til Crystal Brook Track
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wow it is a long way , but sounds like a fun road trip.
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Caught up with Kevin Brown & wife in down town CBrook,Fatboyracing team,Four Brothers Racing,CZ Pete, Evo55,Ianyz DT1 looks beaut in real life.fatboy Tassie has a pipe with bassani sticker still on :P The other fatbot has bright yellow and blck JT pants ;D
Scrutineering starting so, im off to see some nice gear..
cheers A
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Some really good riders out here today.
Had a classic laught with the pre65 HD sidecar with passenger sitting in an old wooden box seat-had a hard time getting up the creek bed banks and getting a phot shoot with little kids in the pits on there return home..
40-49 age class races,some fast WA,Qld and Jody Smith from Vic will no doubt go home with a few places-though you never know how things pan out with old bikes and ancient trees.
Parts ,broken pipes,welds going left right and centre today in the pits.
freaky scored a footpeg in the armpit and required a stitch or two.
Put a new base gasket in the TM this pm and off she went again to place a third for the second time today.
Specky races -well spaced out with practise and a few races for day one :P :P
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http://www.orion-timing.com/results.htm
Your fellow country/statesmans results 8)
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Got to hand it to the mechanic and fully sponsored rider for bringing home the bacon in the pre75 250 class.
She really went well.
Long live the legendary TM250L 8) 8)
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Thus, a successful conclusion to the Nats Project : a win !!
Well done, great effort by VMX247 Race Team, and well ridden Ben. :D
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Ali did you take the Sprite? Congratulations on the win....I guess it answers the question as to what's the best pre 75 250....A Suzuki TM250L it seems ;D.
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freaky scored a footpeg in the armpit and required a stitch or two.
Yep 2 inside and 5 on the outside ( so the paperwork says) still not sure why they didnt make the outside ones disovable too, would be easier.
And this was only the first day too !
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had a fun weekend but.
knackered now thou, rode one to many races i think ( probally that one i accidently went in and no bum told me to get off ! - 4 laps i'lll never get back :O)
How good was Ben and robert, good to see the young guys going out on the later bikes.
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and the mighty TM didnt even need that Kickstater you wanted after all that !
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Taking 13 podium positions home to WA.
Didnt take the Sprite Firko ran out of time.
Freaky everyone one around the table just said "what is that" A freakin armpit ;D
We found alot of young riders to carry on the future vmx gene pool and the Crystal brook Club had so many young members,which is great to see.
Alround fantastic Nationals.We are going to win lotto and fly next year ;)
cheers A
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If you win x lotto you can get one of them russian place where the nose cone goes up and you can load in front.
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Anyone know how Rob Tumes went on his KXs?
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he went ok, had a big stack in the woops section i think on sat or sun, didnt see much of him after that, he was top 5 most weekend, but no medals.
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Time to hit the long paddock west today-Thanks South Aust for another page in our book..
Four groups of us have spent two days of R&R in the Clare Valley, trying all the real nice Rieslings etc...What gem of a place with all the history,stone cottages and antique shops,Got myself two 74 bike mags and a BSA bike badge.
cheers B,S & A
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Anyone know how Rob Tumes went on his KXs?
he went ok, had a big stack in the woops section i think on sat or sun, didnt see much of him after that, he was top 5 most weekend, but no medals.
Poor old Tumesy....therin lays Robs career in vintage racing. For a couple of decades he's been one of the fastest vintage racers in the land on his well prepped Kawas..at one stage he was one of the only racers to have beaten Ronnie Dinsdale and Andy Caldecott fair and square, but his speed is more often than not let down by monster crashes while either out in front or fighting for the lead. When he has a get off it's invariably a biggy.
Rob's a good bloke too, one of the sports real characters.
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I think he also realised the other guys aint getting any slower too.
I know he gave Dale newman his 4 banger to ride , will check to see how he went on that. Rob had some health issue a while back so he is still workig his way back from a low point in his life, but i reckon he had fun weekend no-doubt regardless of where he finished.
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Well ,we have made it across the long paddock with over 5000km on the clock and its the last night to sleep with TM and RM in the trailer.
dont know weather to cry or be laughing in joy.....but I know one things i hate the feeling of another vmx adventure ending after only two short weeks..
.Its been great sharing the experience with other vmxer's on the trip over and back.
WA left its mark in more way than one-(who left the CZ tags) ;)
cheers B,S & A
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must agree Ali - home successfully, bike cleaned and put away and now left with a bit of an empty spot.............until next time anyway!!! ;D ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjuQQ-oE-fQ
pre75 250 class-the biggest class's for the event -as our epic show case ,its a bit sad to know that we can't all get together and attend such a Classic event.
MXTV crew couldnt believe how fast the old bikes went :P
MXTV followed four class's and will feature the Crystal Brook Nationals on October 5th 8.30pm on foxtel. 8)
cheers A
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;D third kick and she's away.knew knee and one year on.let it rip on sunday..whoop whoop 8)
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always remember Rob Tumes in about 94 at Mt Kembla leading in to 1st corner and his KX front hub fell apart and he went down in front of the pack.
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always remember Rob Tumes in about 94 at Mt Kembla leading in to 1st corner and his KX front hub fell apart and he went down in front of the pack.
no first corners :'( boiler blew a pipe on turbine.work calls :(
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Anyone know how Rob Tumes went on his KXs?
he went ok, had a big stack in the woops section i think on sat or sun, didnt see much of him after that, he was top 5 most weekend, but no medals.
Poor old Tumesy....therin lays Robs career in vintage racing. For a couple of decades he's been one of the fastest vintage racers in the land on his well prepped Kawas..at one stage he was one of the only racers to have beaten Ronnie Dinsdale and Andy Caldecott fair and square, but his speed is more often than not let down by monster crashes while either out in front or fighting for the lead. When he has a get off it's invariably a biggy.
Rob's a good bloke too, one of the sports real characters.
i know this threads a little old but can annyone tell me what bikes Andy Caldecott was riding. (may he rest in peace)
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TM250L went well on sunday just gone ;D never too old...Andy rode TM400 front cover of vmx mag #1. Search Andy C on search engine here on this forum.Also Rosco forum member knows a tad more 8) Andy also partook in sidecar racin for a bit.. cheers
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I think the VMX cover shot of Andy shows him on a TM250 Alison though he did indeed have a TM400 as well.
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Any rode a TM 400
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TM250L Still rockin on 8)
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Thanks Bethanie/Christine for pic
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Did He manage to catch the rider up front ???..... cool pic
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Did He manage to catch the rider up front ???..... cool pic
He might be up front 8)
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Jetting runs up the paddock and a new coil-all sweet for tomorrow at Wandering Mill Farm.
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Retro Rocket you'll be needing Green background and white numbers ;) ;D
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suzuki27 and the rest.
I need to start with the history of the bike a bit. I purchased the TM off one of the original WA McCullock Suzuki Mechanics, A bloke by the name of Shane Thompson. Shane had collected a lot of TM stuff and probably built this bike from a collection of the bits he had. Being a Suzuki man he new what could work with what.The forks as far as I would know would be TM. I brought all of Shane's collection of bits, which included fork sets and they are all pretty similar.So if they look like something else - you guys would know more than me. The forks work pretty good. I run a couple of spacers for pre load and a couple of pound of air. Then I think you just have to hold on - -- don't you? At the end of the day the forks still go up and down the same amount as any other. Just thinking - it would not surprise me if the were of something later - knowing Shane ::)
Shane unfortunately came amiss on a modern bike at a local enduro and now sports his own set of wheels, unfortunately they are pretty well attached to himself.
Steven
Had the young nephew and his mate in the shed this evening,to pick up an kx front wheel.
Jarred the mate is the son of Shane mentioned above.
he noticed the TM250L out from under the sheet getting ready for this sundays pre75 event.He said "who rides this"
I said "Steven mostly,though Ben placed at Crystal Brook Classic Nats on her.he asked if I'd riden it.i said only around the house.
The way he moved and looked over and around the bike was odd.
I said 'it was your dads'!
I could see the memory or the emotions coming back from when he was about five.He was really chuffed,asking all about the TM.I mentioned to Jarred,next time have a closer look at the photos on our dads wall at home. :P
There's more to our young mxer's than we believe! ;) 8)
Cheers A
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still rockin~thanks Christine Mitcheson for the pic..
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He was flying all day
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That looks pretty straight Dave, how much did you pay for it? J
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Steve/Alison
Shanes tm250 both came out of Southern cross I brought the pair at the same time and on sold them to Shane we go back to working together at Mortlocks in Jolimont
Sold at mates rates way back then Cheap as ;D ;D
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$5 says Dave never actually races it.. ;)
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I am very happy with my TM, looking forward to have a ride, its been to long, had my ride, very nice bike very quick, pre 75 250 classes not for me anymore, moving it on.
Selling the TM 250 L $2900 Firm
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$5 says Dave never actually races it.. ;)
You'd be safe upping that to $500..
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Someone won some money?
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You're a genius Watto. Who'd have thought Dave would sell a keeper? I'm starting to think that the Adler might be living somewhere else too ::).
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Any one want a sweep on the adler?
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You're a genius Watto. Who'd have thought Dave would sell a keeper? I'm starting to think that the Adler might be living somewhere else too ::).
Hi Mark,
This for you and Bazza, take a chill pill, and relax.
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You're a genius Watto. Who'd have thought Dave would sell a keeper? I'm starting to think that the Adler might be living somewhere else too ::).
Hi Mark,
This for you and Bazza, take a chill pill, and relax.
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Dave to make that pic creditable you will have to take a pic of the Adler with yourself and todays paper ;D
I think your Bantam is a bargain , whats stopping you finishing it though ??? i can relate as i get so far with projects and loose interest . But that Bantam finished would be a really cool pre 65 ride :)
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Steve/Alison
Shanes tm250 both came out of Southern cross I brought the pair at the same time and on sold them to Shane we go back to working together at Mortlocks in Jolimont
Sold at mates rates way back then Cheap as ;D ;D
Thanks Murray, always great to read about another link in the history chain.
Shanes son Jarrad rides mx now and often gets to see the TM in the shed, maybe one day it will be in his. Never know. :P
With the TM still running and Steven's knee in need of repair, we have asked Asry from the VMXWA club if she would like to ride it at this years Pre78 Nationals, Port August SA.
Asry jumped at the chance, when asked last month.
Her usual rides are heavier four strokes.
While riding today at Dandaloo Classic in the 250ss class and tomorrow in the B & C grades tomorrow, Asry remarked that she loves its lightness and power, with a few more laps it should bring her up too speed for the woman's class top ten if not a podium.....ps another joyous day with 65 riders :)
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well done Ali/Steve - hope Asry goes OK - !
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Got some shed time today...
Welded up the additions to the footrests and made the finger guards ~~ them's the modern rules :) :P
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Thanks for posting the shot of your rear sprocket guard. I will be taking my TM250 to SA in August and have been scratching my head in regards to a guard set up. Yours is a simple solution. :)
Regards Terry..
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Chain guard looks good and period :) 10/10
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.......rewired the hand grips, repacked the muffler and tomorrow Sunday the sponsored works rider Asry gets too have some more coaching/practise laps.
With four race dates left on the WA calendar/s till the 20 odd Western Australian riders head east for 2014 Australian Classic National Championship. Port August SA.
That's 42 days until the nobbies grip hard pack :P :)
Dropped a chain at last event, due to loose hub. So TM"s back on the bench with a cracked case around the gear stick.....Few late shed nights ahead :P
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Dropped a chain at last event, due to loose hub. So TM"s back on the bench with a cracked case around the gear stick.....Few late shed nights ahead :P
Damage was only to gear shaft seal.Made a spigot, then dev coned it up.Till next rebuild.
re machined hub.
New chain.
Bit of paint on side-cases and a tidy up.
Nearly ready to go 8)
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Asry Bizar has completed her first Austalian Classic National Championships.
Asry completed all her races,though a challenge and support from us all Asry was stoked to be part of it all by racings end on sunday.
The TM's brake shoes where over due for a new set,but she continued on.
A fantastic vmx journey to tell others.
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Well,13 years on we come to say goodbye to our old friend TM250L.
We've lost count of how many times she got rebuild/won/lost/cleaned filters and got damaged in that time, also the amount of tracks she has seen.
I do know she is in now running at her best and is a good rocket ship,though Stevens knee is not.
She returns home to Shane Thompsons (info pg1 on this topic) for his son Jarred to ride at Southern Capes Australian Classic Nationals~September.
May she bring home a podium again.
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chuffed to hear that she has been entered in the Australian Classic Nationals Southern Capes September ,,with the best mechanic by her side :)
Go team under 21's :D