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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: Paul552 on February 24, 2013, 09:51:42 am
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Steel-Foot-Pegs-For-Yamaha-PW-50-PW-80-TW-200-/280976831549?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item416b86343d&_uhb=1
I remember seeing someone posting here on wide pegs to suit early yzs .
I thought I remember that pw80 pegs would fit on my yz125d ??
I really want to keep the originals if I can (rather than using weld ons)
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Vmx unlimited has wide pegs with the spring listed on his website,they look like they bolt straight into the standard bracket
Cheers
Scott
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Vmx unlimited has wide pegs with the spring listed on his website,they look like they bolt straight into the standard bracket
Cheers
Scott
Thanks scott
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Not sure about the D sorry, but the PW50 pegs definitely fit H model YZ's. If you keep looking you will find them with springs and new pins. No drilling out mount holes or anything. Just put 'em straight on.
If someone can confirm D is the same as H you are in business.
Here's some ally ones. Not sure how the ally would go....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Aluminium-Foot-Pegs-Yamaha-PW-50-80-TW200-PW50-PW80-PW50-pit-dirt-bike-Foot-Pegs-/181062249886?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2826ad9e
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They look suspiously like the ones I had in black, they were utter rubbish- 1 hole was 9mm so they pointed downwards & the castings were porous, the springs didn't fit that well with 1 side binding up
Ended up minus a peg at the bottom of a hill in practise at the second round of the nz vmx season when the holes linked up, really glad I wasn't jumping when it happened
I bought a set of the PFR pegs off VMXunlimited & the difference in quality is night & day
Look in the for sale section & you'll find Wasp has a set of PFR pegs the same as mine for $65 from memory
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Those pegs are the el Cheapo cast iron Chinese pegs that give the Chinese stuff a bad rep. The best ones are these forged Stainless Steel pegs, also made for PW50 JR50 etc. They fit all of the full sized Yamahas I've tried 'em on including my IT250J. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Foot-Pegs-for-Honda-CRF-50-70-90-pit-dirt-bike-CRF-50-70-90-/150995306439?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23280587c7&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Foot-Pegs-for-Honda-CRF-50-70-90-pit-dirt-bike-CRF-50-70-90-/150995306439?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23280587c7&vxp=mtr)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/T2eC16RwsE9suwydrRBQDlpZTp4w60_3.jpg)
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There still made out of plastic Firko and my legs/ankles/hips and the rest of my old body is worth more to me than a pair of chinesse chinka footpegs to save a few bucks.....there is no recourse if something tragic happened....I really dont know why you keep pushing the chinesse shit....especially since you dont see any action these days and I'm sure if you fronted to your doctor with busted up legs after he rebuilds them for you cause of a chinka footpeg he would not be a happy camper.
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Those pegs are the el Cheapo cast iron Chinese pegs that give the Chinese stuff a bad rep. The best ones are these forged Stainless Steel pegs, also made for PW50 JR50 etc. They fit all of the full sized Yamahas I've tried 'em on including my IT250J. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Foot-Pegs-for-Honda-CRF-50-70-90-pit-dirt-bike-CRF-50-70-90-/150995306439?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23280587c7&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Foot-Pegs-for-Honda-CRF-50-70-90-pit-dirt-bike-CRF-50-70-90-/150995306439?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23280587c7&vxp=mtr)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/T2eC16RwsE9suwydrRBQDlpZTp4w60_3.jpg)
Thanks for the info Firko! Are they a good fit on the IT250J? I have a 250H & 250L I wan't a set for both.
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Brad, Don't put that shit on your bikes. Get a set of Scar pegs off Les Richters ya tight prick ::)
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Ted, let's get one thing straight pal! I'm not tight! :)
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I just fitted a set of cheaper style wide footPegs to my IT200, lined up perfectly, springs locate and operate great. All for under $40, there's a reason why firko has a hoard of beautiful old (desirable) bikes and we rarely see his name pop up in the "for sale" section and it's most likely cause he doesn't piss lots of coin away on high priced items that can be had for a lot less when you're not a slave to brand names and bling labels! ;)
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Or safe products
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Ted, I have $300 titanium light speed ones on my modern KX450 & can't tell the diff (when riding ) with the stock YZ250H ones!!
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Or safe products
Please tell us of your "horror stories" regrading cheaper style wide foot pegs, obviously you've had bad experiences going by your comments?
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Or safe products
Any pics of the bent and broken ones?
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Ted, I have $300 titanium light speed ones on my modern KX450 & can't tell the diff (when riding ) with the stock YZ250H ones!!
It isn't about what they feel like but the safety side of it. If you think a no name peg is safe go right ahead and buy a truck full.
Brad, I may be wrong but the standard yammy ones are made in Japan , like the rest of the bike....not YONGKANG ZHEJIANG CHINA or the other pair on here from POSTOFFICE CHINA
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Ando is one of the richest blokes in Sydney, money to burn! ;D ::)
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I think its like that old saying you pay for what you get ;)
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I think its like that old saying you pay for what you get ;)
I will never dispute that logic BUT that doesn't mean every item we buy must be the highest priced of its kind available, those that wish to fall into the traps of the modern brand name oriented world are mostly only fooling themselves.
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When you come up short on a jump or just have a heavy landing and one the things break, you'll be wishing like fluck you'd missed this thread altogether as you're spending the next two years recovering from a severely traumatised leg.
Whatever you saved won't buy you enough jigsaw sets to while the months away...... :'( :'( :-X
Some people are in the wrong sport. If helmets weren't compulsory someone here would be telling you to ride in a beanie. ::)
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cAn any one tell me why you need wide pegs on a pre 78 bike,Both my bikes have standard pegs and work just as well as they did when new,did people modify there pegs back in 77 or were wide pegs unheard of then.
Cheers
Big scotty
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I had a big landing a few years back, and broke a foot peg off , the sharp peice of metal left on cut a huge slice in my boot.
200mm or so :'(
I never fell off or hert myself ( but I was bloody lucky and glad I was wearing motor cross boots not slip on work boots )
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cAn any one tell me why you need wide pegs on a pre 78 bike,Both my bikes have standard pegs and work just as well as they did when new,did people modify there pegs back in 77 or were wide pegs unheard of then.
Cheers
Big scotty
I put bigger and more grip pegs on my bike , because the org ones had small and worn teeth on them.
( brand new NOS ones still have small teeth on them as well ) ( these are yamaha ones by the way )
I had trouble in muddy weather ,when standing on the pegs my foot would slip off at times.
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You dont have to buy "bling" bits, my KX250A5 that I'm in the process of doing has had 2012 CR450 pegs, springs, pins and brackets (they have alloy frames and use a bolt on steel bracket) fitted to it. I know that they will not fail and will last many years. Too me its a no brainer.....its about safety....not dollars. Wether you spend $1000 or $10'000 doing a bike you are going to ride/race....whats a $150?.....gee, some people smoke and drink way more than that in a week. And big Scotty, try it, you might like it. Remember, these bikes where never meant to last this long and most guys are way heavier than back in the day and the reflexes/fittnes/riding ability is not what it used to be....in my opinion they also spread the weight better on your foot not to mention the better gripping ability.
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I wondered about the cheap footpegs so put one on a bike, put piece of 4x2 on it and smacked with various hammers. Finished with 20 good hits with sledge hammer...didnt break.
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Care to let me try?
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I had a big landing a few years back, and broke a foot peg off , the sharp peice of metal left on cut a huge slice in my boot.
200mm or so :'(
I never fell off or hert myself ( but I was bloody lucky and glad I was wearing motor cross boots not slip on work boots )
You would never ride with slip on work boots I am sure.
Thongs? Maybe but no big jumps!!
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Care to let me try?
20 hits with a sledge hammer not good enough?? :D
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Ando is one of the richest blokes in Sydney, money to burn! ;D ::)
Don't be silly Craig! I had to save for 3 weeks to buy those footpegs!!!
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Care to let me try?
20 hits with a sledge hammer not good enough?? :D
1 will do
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Yeah go for it Ted,let us all know what the results are.Not saying theyr'e good/bad just thought i'd test them outta curiosity.
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I would have thought your foot/leg would brake before the peg?
Impact is impact right?
Anyone good at physics ?
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Ted you go ahead and do whatever you like, you've proven on many occasions now that you will refuse to take anybody elses opinion on board nor even be respectful enough to acknowledge their right to have that opinion. You seem to feel the need to naysay and offer only negativity whenever you see the opportunity to do so, iv'e never witnessed a single positive sentence come from you towards another. So you go for it buddy, grab your hammer and start belting the living suitcase out of whatever you like. Have fun :)
Regards, Brendan
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I have been using $30 Chinese ones for 3 years now on various I T
Yamaha's from 175 to 250they are only a copy of your $150 ones
Lets face it there is not much you Buy that is not made in China
these days.
But they wont tell you where they are Made when they take your
$150 bucks..
The Stig.
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I have one of those pegs from firkos pic. They seem ok quality, ok you gan see some mold marks but there doesnt seem to be any porosity wich would lead to failure. Havent used them yet, but will use in my HL project and have no fear, probably my selfmade frame scares me more ;)
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It,s kinda funny how we trust the Jap,s so much :-\ jimson
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There still made out of plastic Firko and my legs/ankles/hips and the rest of my old body is worth more to me than a pair of chinesse chinka footpegs to save a few bucks.....there is no recourse if something tragic happened....I really dont know why you keep pushing the chinesse shit....especially since you dont see any action these days and I'm sure if you fronted to your doctor with busted up legs after he rebuilds them for you cause of a chinka footpeg he would not be a happy camper.
Because they are the exact same items in the flash marketing. Where do you think the expensive ones are made John, in the USA? Give me a flucking break, they're made in the exact same factories as the bling ones you buy from the snappy online stores in the gorgeous shrinkwrap packaging. I've said it before, a mate was in China on business and saw the name brand pegs being packaged right next to the generic ones. Why do you guys instantly dismiss everything made in China as shit without even looking into it? I personally don't care what you or anyone uses but there's no way I'd go on here and tout them if I thought they were of any lesser quality than the expensive items.
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Everyone knows I'm not a bling lover, and I'm really not a 'brand snob'. Here's my story of Chinese footpegs:
Years ago, I bought some of the better Chinese pitbike pegs. Cast/forged stainless steel, looked like very good quality (consistant shape, no visible porosity, etc).
Cost me $50/pair from the pitbike shop near my mum's place in North Wollongong.
Eventually those pegs made their way onto the KX200. There's a fast section through the tea-trees in the middle of the loop at Rockley - just after the gnarliest downhill in the loop, IIRC. You zig-zag up the hill, with the last part having a fairly big rolling dip, before a short uphill and then the track curves left into the trees. .
Anyhow, if you were having a red-hot go on the 200, you'd hit the roller flat knacker in 4th gear and it was a lot of fun.
What's not so fun is when the right hand footpeg breaks at the bottom of the dip when you're flat out in 4th gear... I stayed upright, but it was a f$%king wild ride for a bit there.
I went back and picked up the broken peg. It had snapped clean across the pivot point, with no sign of fatigue cracking.
It was about then that I got thinking about how mainstream manufacturers 'always' use steel for dirt bike pegs...
I hammered it into a gumtree a bit further on - might even still be there if anyone wants to check...
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Have used these on my YZ465 for the last 2 years. I would not trust the cheap chinese pegs.
These are for Honda minis and bolt right up. The nice thing is that they have an adjustment
to level them out ( very cool for old sagged out mounts).
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb326/screamin62/pegs003_zps51f1f774.jpg)
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Look, I can understand why people denigrate anything made in China.....much of it is indeed substandard. However I think that you're also overlooking the point that (rightly or wrongly) a high proportion of items we use in our day to day lives eminate from China. Why I get so annoyed with this often repeated footpeg debate is the blind faith shown that because the expensive pegs are sold with American or European branding and packaging that the item simply must be made in the country of origin of the company name on the box. My big problem is that because almost all of them are made in China, the huge price mark up is seen by many as a justification that they're buying top shelf quality. If you believe that I've got a big grey bridge parked down in Sydney I can pass on for a good price.
I really don't care what people use on their bikes, some folks are 'do it yourself guys' on a limited budget, while others have no worries paying others to build their bikes, money for the big bling bits being no object. That's cool too, we're all achieving the same result in the end. What I've strived to do is to show cheaper alternatives to the mainstream ways of doing things....it's almost an obsession. That's the psychology behind my DT1 fetish, to show that one can build a bike almost as cool as the high bling 490 Maicos or Rickman Metisses of the world for an affordable price if you're half smart. That's also why I offer up the Chinese alternative to mainstream parts as an option but it really pisses me off when punters automatically reject alternatives because of their Chinese origin without even looking into it.
Are any of you aware that nearly all alloy car wheels, whether they be aftermarket or OEM are made in China these days? That nearly all aftermarket inlet manifolds, alloy heads and cast pistons sold in big name US packaging are made in China these days. Yep, that good old Edelbrock manifold on your Chevy blingmobile came out of Shenzhen, China. That Mikuni carby in the shiny new package you bought from a respected retailer may also have originated in China. The Japanese motorcycle and car manufacturers are also out sourcing more and more of their manufacturing processes to China but they're not going to advertise it. So, when something like the stainless steel footpegs I'm talking about are openly advertised as Chinese you all go into hissy fits of disgust, smug in the knowledge that your good 'ol American DG (or pick any othe name brand) pegs are the good stuff. They are good but they're no different to the better quality Chinese pitbike product. How can you tell the difference between the good ones and the shit I hear you ask?
That's the big question here. The cast iron pegs that TFR posted on page one are classic examples of the lowest peg on the pole, I'm sorry TFR but those pegs are dangerous shit. I had a pair on my Boyd and Stellings TM400 that fell off the stand in my garage...the only damage to the bike being a footpeg snapped off at the pivot! They're now removed and a lesson was learned...damn, at that stage I could have been president of the anti Chinese club. What changed me was admiring the pegs on a racers bike at CD7 and his telling me they were $40 forged stainless steel made for Chinese mini's off eBay. He sent me the eBay link, I bought a set and promptly cut them in half to check out the steel they were made from. Yes they are forged and yes they are staino so I then bought three sets and today they're on my bikes ready for this seasons races. To end this I'm even prepared to buy another pair, fit them to an old RT1 frame I've got down at the farm and do the Ted inspired 8lb sledge hammer destructo test. If they break I'll be honest enough to photograph the operation and report it here.....I'm not afraid of admitting I'm wrong, especially when safety is concerned.
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Mark,
How do you have confidence in a product when it lists it selling location as POSTOFFICE. CHINA?
It wasn't me who came up with the sledgehammer idea. It was old mate telling us he finished up giving it 20 good hits with one and no damage. What a ridiculous statement. I reckon he missed 20 times . I don't care if they are the top pegs out there , one hit with a sledgy and its all over.
You seem to have a penchant for advertising bikes from overseas and parts from China and elsewhere thereby totally eliminating every Australian business from supplying these products. You claim to do it to make it more affordable for the average punter. This will only lead to one thing and I hope I'm still around to hear you'se all bleating about poor quality, high prices, extraordinary postal charges and long lead times when Aus businesses close their doors.
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I learned long ago that the man with the data will nearly always win an argument against a man with just an opinion. The man with the data and an opinion is unbeatable. So many times the man with an just opinion also has the loudest voice and bullies his way to a victory. I've been following this debate and I'm seeing a lot of opinions (some hard won it must be said)but not much data. I wonder if there is a standard for footpeg construction? Respectfully as always Jerry
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$2.00 head / $ 2.00 helmet or beanie
$ 2.00 legs / $2.00 foot pegs
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I learned long ago that the man with the data will nearly always win an argument against a man with just an opinion. The man with the data and an opinion is unbeatable. So many times the man with an just opinion also has the loudest voice and bullies his way to a victory. I've been following this debate and I'm seeing a lot of opinions (some hard won it must be said)but not much data. I wonder if there is a standard for footpeg construction? Respectfully as always Jerry
Indeed.
I see two main reasons why nobody has any data:
1. Footpegs failing will be as much about fatigue life as outright tensile (or bending!) strength. It's particularly difficult to accurately test for fatigue life.
2. None of us know what the acceptable limits are for either fatigue life or outright strength anyhow.
Edit:
Stock pegs 'never' catastrophically fail. They wear, get floppy and sag lots well before they let go.
It's way more common for people to break peg mounting points, than stock pegs. This says something... ;)
The pegs in the original post are about 10mm higher than most stock Yammie pegs. This makes the cramped riding position even more cramped.
There's a lot of interchangablity between footpegs. It seems that manufacturers/ebay sellers are deliberately confusing the issue of what's interchangable.
With very few, obvious exceptions, Yamaha dirt bike pegs are almost universally interchangable until 1996 or so. Even the later ones can be made to fit by going narrowing the mounting boss and going to a 10mm pin (ie: drilling the frame mounting holes out - because you don't have crappy Suzuki engineering, this will not be a problem).
XR400 pegs will also work on most older Yammies (10mm pivot pin again).
A late Yamaha footpeg will go straight onto a 99~02 Husqvarna 2T, and an 07 GasGas. This suggests that the reverse is true, and that newer and later Husky and GG pegs may also work.
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You seem to have a penchant for advertising bikes from overseas and parts from China and elsewhere thereby totally eliminating every Australian business from supplying these products.
Deepest apologies for my late reply....I've been spending my money in Australian owned supermarket, butcher and fruit and veg market, trying like buggery to limit my purchases to Aussie products. While on the road I took my dog to my Australian vet and booked my car in for a service at my Aussie owned mechanic. How flucking dare anyone accuse me of contributing to the downfall of Australian industry when you, your next door neighbour and everyone reading this are equally to blame for what's happened by buying by price over quality for the last half a century. If my suggesting that a local VMXer might just save himself a buck by purchasing frorm overseas well I've done my bit to help his cause. I'm not here to save the nation, I'm just here to try and make our sport better by making it more accessible. I've never twisted anyones leg to buy from overseas Ted. I'm merely showing options, how people react to those options is their perogative. The bikes I buy from overseas, almost down to every last nut and bolt are absolutely unavailable in this country so in effect I'm adding to the mix with bikes that would otherwise never be seen here. I haven't seen a Hindall or Cheney dealer here lately. ::)
I'm over the footpeg thing, use whatever makes you happy. Nearly everyone has missed my point anyway, it being that the so called bling pegs you buy from the big retailers are almost all made in China. So are half of the disposables or replaceables you use on your bike, like it or not it's a fact. If it says Made in USA on the package it possibly is....if there's no country of origin on the package you can bet your sweet bippy it's made in China. It shits me seeing products selling for $120 that are exactly the same item as a $30 set from "Post Office, China", people blindly buying the shiny bling because "they wouldn't be caught dead with that Chinese shit".
That grey coat hanger shaped bridge I spoke of earlier is still for sale....any takers?
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Might have some Chinese take away tonight! J
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Yeah good one Ted.Anyone that uses a full force full swing sledgehammer hit on footpegs is an idiot.If you think that then...seriously. I used solid hits(not full swings) on solid mounted frame so it was direct force to peg( not absorbed by suspension) to replicate force on vmx track.Its a vmx/grasstrack for fork sake!! not 60ft jump/dropoffs.Not everyone goes hard or fast,not everyone has the $$ but atleast they are rid'in. One more thing ...keep ya f##kin insults to yourself!!
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Might have some Chinese take away tonight! J
;D
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Might have some Chinese take away tonight! J
;D
Cream of some young guy? Aka Roscos favorite "dish"
:D
Ps just joking mate no harm meant to you Jerry,but Ross can bite my bum (on second thoughts he might like that).
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Old thread Revival!!
Just thought I'd mention that with a very small amount of grinding, I have fitted the OEM pegs off my 2012 YZ450 to my 1990 YZ490.
These OEM pegs also fit:
2007-2015 YZ 125-250cc
2008 - 2014 YZF/WRF 250-450cc
So if you can find a second hand set of these, you can make them fit.