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Ji Gantor

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Scrutineering
« on: March 16, 2009, 06:24:51 PM »
With the Nationals coming up it may be time to start the scrutineering topic.
What do the Scrutineers look for.
I am no expert on this topic but I will get the ball rolling. I am sure there will be a heap of members that will enhance what I write here. I hope that may be we might even get the good oil from the scrutineer him or herself.

a) Class of bike (like Pre 75) which will include wheel travel........,
b) Blocked handlebar ends,
c) Play in steering head bearings,
d) Play in wheel bearings,
e) Foot peg springs,
f) leaking fuel tanks,
g) General unsafe bikes and
h) Helmet and safety clothing,

There would be more than what I have just listed but at least make sure your bike and safety clothing complies to these basic ones.

Ji

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 06:40:12 PM »
the wheels turn and its in the right class entered
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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 06:54:28 PM »
spoke tightness. ball end levers. and that the throttle returns and doesnt stick.
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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 06:57:48 PM »
Hi LWC3077,
Are yes, to check spokes they run a screw driver around the wheel to listen for low pitch or loose spokes.

Very good.
Ji

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 07:09:31 PM »
Probably won't be at the Nationals...but, what do they look at regards to safety clothing? Just to see if you have any or would they go further than that?

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 07:09:37 PM »
some complain about using a screwdriver on spokes as it can wear off that precious plating. and if you use your bare hand, some of the punters like to lockwire the spokes together making for sharp little nasties for the scrutineer. i like to squeeze em like.... um, well, y'know.. :)
ball end levers a must.
bar ends plugged a must.
throttle return a must.
no feul leaks a must.
good steering bearings a must.
brakes that work a must.
the rest? well i'm sure theres more but safety or a safe bike is the important thing to me.
"flat bickie"

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 07:11:20 PM »
Hi LWC3077,
Are yes, to check spokes they run a screw driver around the wheel to listen for low pitch or loose spokes.
Very good.
Ji


I don't mind getting dirty- I use me fingers-looking for just loose spokes.
I wouldn't run a screwdriver-personally its a bit like running keys up a paint job on a BMW.
carbie cap top thingee is done up tight. :o
and the most important job  :o   the big tick on the paper work  :P  u r ready to ride tick   ;D
alison
oops sorry vandy010 -lockwire the spokes together making for sharp little nasties for the scrutineer.
ahh ,is that common practice at the Nats  :o
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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 07:19:52 PM »
Hi MX?,
There are rules about safety clothing and if you are getting your race license you are asked a question about your safety clothing. The helmet is always checked to see it has passed the approved standard.

Ji
« Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 07:59:32 PM by Ji Gantor »

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 07:22:52 PM »
Hi vandy010,
Thanks mate, are you a scrutineer?

Ji

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 07:25:24 PM »
Okay, here is a question that confuses a few people every race meeting.
Does your bike require a chain guard over the counter shaft sprocket?

Ji
« Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 07:59:54 PM by Ji Gantor »

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 07:55:17 PM »
Here is another question,
Will the sound meter come out to test the noise level of bikes?

Ji

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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 08:17:01 PM »
At a national event alot of the time is spent ensuring bike's meet eligibility critera ie. numbers/backgrounds, suspension travel, numbers of back, ensuring bike meets cut off date, noise testing things like that.
General consensus is that if you turn up to race for a National title that you won't have loose spokes :P
When was the last time you saw Craig Anderson's bike having it's spokes rattled by some bloke in a flannie with a screw driver in his hand.

You will need your name and number on your back
Don't forget to put the letter infront of your race number
bike meets 89 db noise test :o
bike complies with period........if oyou want to argue make sure you can back it up with proof.
correct number plate background colour.
Ensure you have all your paper work done, that includes one day licences done before the event not on the day. That may include competence testing.

Ji,
A front sprocket needs a cover if it's more than 30mm from the outside of the swingarm pivot.


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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 08:24:18 PM »
bike meets 89 db noise test

holey moley keeps goin down  ;)
cheers alison
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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 08:43:37 PM »
Foot pegs         12.8.5.1     a   well rounded  and no dangerous edges due to wear  
                                       b  Hinged or pivoted  Controlled by a return spring
centre stands    12.8.4.1 a-b-c-d          MUST BE REMOVED

Chain drive protection  12.8.8 .1  
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Re: Scrutineering
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 08:51:06 PM »
Luis, can't see how anyone would reject you cause the sprocket was welded on. They may have a bit of second look but I doubt it would be a knockback issue. As for drug testing, if you wish to bring them along there's always someone who'll test them for you :D seriously though, testing can happen anytime anywhere along the way or at the event ;)