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Offline Slow Poke

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1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« on: October 13, 2015, 02:20:58 am »
Does anyone know what, if any, Yamaha swing arm I can bolt onto my MX-250 to get an extra inch of length?
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 08:50:24 am »
If you can't find a longer arm you could always extend the flat plates at the wheel end an extra inch.
I have seen this modification on several TY trials Yamaha (mostly TY175)
I think I have some photos somewhere , sorry but I don't know how to post photos here
If you search  " Yamaha TY 175 swing arm extensions" on ebay.co.uk you will see what I mean
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« Last Edit: October 13, 2015, 09:09:49 am by Andrew L »
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 09:09:34 am »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Ty-175-Swing-Arm-Extensions-yamaha-trials-twinshock-/130746878557

I made some like these for my rt360 made a big difference

Yes ,That's the ones I was thinking of, there are also some TY250 ones that are slightly different
Shouldn't be too difficult to fabricate & easier than looking for another arm

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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 09:27:37 am »
Added another link after you posted its a trials arm but it gives you an idea of what's involved
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 10:03:48 am »
What's the advantage of the extra length? I race an MX250 and don't really have a problem with the way it handles, dirt track or motocross.

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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 10:59:26 am »
More weight on the front for better steering.
Less likely to wheelie.
Less twitchy in a slide.
Slightly better geometry across the full range of suspension travel (not so convinced that this is more a theoretical improvement than a real one).

Most old Yammies handle better with a longer swing arm. Yamaha had this stupid habit of making a new model with a short swingarm, and then extending it the next year (YZ125C vs X, D vs E, etc). In every case, the later model clearly out handled the older version.
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 12:35:05 pm »
With longer swingarm, will it still be eligible for pre '75 racing ?
I ask, 1: as I'm not familiar with the rules.
         2: I have an MX that  one day I will restore, and have wondered many times if I could lengthen said part.



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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015, 12:54:46 pm »
You would need to ask MA re eligibility.  Extending the swingarm also increases wheel travel.  It would need to be checked and adjusted to suit.
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2015, 01:03:02 pm »
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame or frame&motor. Frame # TS1852-24007 up to TS1852-39022

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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2015, 01:58:35 pm »
It's legal providing the travel at the wheel is kept below 4".
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2015, 10:05:28 pm »
A DT2/3 swingarm is longer as is a YZA .

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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015, 03:11:21 am »
I can't imagine that 1" after the shock mounts would significantly alter the travel.

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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015, 08:27:06 am »
Use the calculator in the link i posted above and see for yourself. Travel can vary depending on where the axle is in the slot but how much variation depends on the shock angle/lever ratio. With almost vertical shocks the variation will be very little.
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Re: 1974 MX-250 swing arm question.
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015, 12:06:26 pm »
The thing I found interesting about the website which can calculate travel is it listed a 30% tolerance.  The MoMS does not state a tolerance.  30% of 100mm is 130mm that is over 5 inches of travel.
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