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Offline Husky500evo

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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2013, 09:41:09 pm »
I have a friend that was sponsored locally by Yamaha in 1974 (or '75 ?) on an OW12, (I think it was one of the first Yamahas with a monoshock)  250 works bike. They took it back at the end of the year and probably sent it back to Japan to be crushed. He is currently looking to buy an OW12, as a reminder of his his youth. If he manages to buy one , it will probably never get ridden, but where would he stand if he turned up to race it a vintage race meeting in Australia ?
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2013, 09:43:43 pm »
If he makes the rules he can do what he wants.....that's what it seems
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2013, 09:47:26 pm »
OW12 would fit into pre78.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2013, 09:51:19 pm »
OW12 is Factory and also Pre Production ( used to evaluate future models ) right

And is OK for Pre 78?
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2013, 10:11:22 pm »
Dave Tanner and Andre Matheson have raced RH and RN suzukis in vmx going back 20 years.. Why Is it suddenly a problem? And that was long before Dave was an official of any kind...
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2013, 10:23:06 pm »
No problem. They can ride what they like in my opinion.



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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2013, 10:27:12 pm »
There was a RN400 in the 2010 titles at Broadford..
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2013, 10:33:01 pm »
My comment on price has nothing to do with the reason full factory bikes being eligible or not just an observation. Still maintain that something that was not available to purchase by the general public does not meeting our rules or the spirit of the rules. The RH/RN Suzukis that were raced by Jens Olsen, Worrell etc etc were limited production races not factory bikes. Jens still has his most of his.

An example of the limited production nature of these bikes are many of the the parst used. A Heaven Club member that has an '74 RN400 had a clutch problem. A  person in the know provided him with Suzuki part numbers for replacement plates they were T500 road bike clutch plates! Limited production is not like an unobtainium 'Factory' GP bike.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2013, 10:39:00 pm »
let me get this straight if steve gall turned up at the nats this year with a brace of his works bikes you guys would tell him to piss off.(wankers) he would beat you all on a xr75.so are you now going to tell firko he cant ride his factory shell 750 yamaha dirt tracker. he has one you know and so do a few other guys in oz. same rules vmx/vdt. get the bikes out on the track not in garages or pool rooms.skill wins races not best bike. if it was around in the period ie pre65 to evo get it out on the track if the owner wants to.
brad you have good riding skills do you think a mid packer will beat you on a works bike i dont think so
jim
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2013, 10:41:15 pm »
Until someone turns up to race a 'real' works bike we don't really have a problem.
Gally doesn't have any works bikes either..
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 10:43:03 pm »
Quote from: jimg1au on October 28, 2013, 10:39:00 pm
let me get this straight if steve gall turned up at the nats this year with a brace of his works bikes you guys would tell him to piss off.(wankers) he would beat you all on a xr75.so are you now going to tell firko he cant ride his factory shell 750 yamaha dirt tracker. he has one you know and so do a few other guys in oz. same rules vmx/vdt. get the bikes out on the track not in garages or pool rooms.skill wins races not best bike. if it was around in the period ie pre65 to evo get it out on the track if the owner wants to.
brad you have good riding skills do you think a mid packer will beat you on a works bike i dont think so
jim
just my 2 cents

You've prob got a lot more friends here than I have so I'll suspect this being put forward by yourself won't receive half the bashing I've copped for it in the past ::)

My thoughts exactly though  ;)
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2013, 12:58:51 am »
friend of mine was protested at the nats for having a part on his bike which was period correct but "works" and therefore not available to the public - the protest was upheld.  I am looking at an OW top end for my YZB - does it mean I can't use it at the Nats?
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2013, 01:01:40 am »
Strange thread with no light at the end of the tunnel
How long is a piece of string?
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2013, 01:24:36 am »
I would like to think if I'm ever able to get the 76 OW26 400cc up and running can I front the starting gate just once, as this was bike not available to the general public back then ???
21 years ago this all started out as a bit of fun but now I'm beginning to wonder

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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2013, 04:24:12 am »
Quote from: JohnnyO on October 28, 2013, 09:31:56 pm
Quote from: Ted on October 28, 2013, 09:28:40 pm
I was told by a representative from the Commission that unless it was available to the public it's illegal.
That isn't a written rule and is just one mans take on it

And there lies the biggest hole in the system  ;) the rule book is fine it's the human factor that causes issues.


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