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Offline Slakewell

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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2013, 07:52:02 am »
I really like seeing these bikes being ridden today. It's funny how we all agree that we need less rules etc, but cant agree what they are.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2013, 10:25:28 am »
There was also a RH250 ridden at the titles in Broadford 2010. Bernie Leen was riding it and had some great dices with Gary Jones until he blew up the RH ! Nothing was said about the eligibility of the bike then.

Quote from: Slakewell on October 29, 2013, 07:52:02 am
I really like seeing these bikes being ridden today. It's funny how we all agree that we need less rules etc, but cant agree what they are.

I reckon the rules should allow for ANY bike that was made in the period (or of period correct parts) should be eligible.

If we want more bums on seats, exclusion is not the way to do it.....
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2013, 10:30:58 am »
That was the RN400..
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2013, 10:41:54 am »
I was sure it was a 250. Gary Jones was in pre75 250. I was marshalling at the event and lent Gary the suspension from my Elsinore to race with.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2013, 10:48:11 am »
Ex Gary Adams RN400

The race you saw Gary and Bernie in may have been the age group race, thats when Bernie had a DNF in the last heat.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2013, 12:55:57 pm »
Here we go again. People reading half or thinking about half of the equation.
Works bikes are not the problem. It's the parts on the bike that are the problem. SOME OF THE PARTS.
It ain't rocket science. A 74 rh or RN fit in our rules for pre 75. They don't have water cooling or 12" of suspension. It's when a works bike has special parts that Joe blogs couldn't buy back in the day like an alloy arm, forward mount shocks or water cooling.
If it fits the rules it's okay. Both of Dave tanners bikes fit the criteria of pre 75. End of story. End of debate.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2013, 01:01:35 pm »
So in 74 Joe blogs could go down to his local Suzuki dealer and walk out with a RH 74
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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2013, 01:06:35 pm »
Brad while DTs bikes have been mentioned ( and they are without doubt pre 75 legal )the question was raised about actual works bikes not the limited edition replicas.

As Johnny O pointed out the actual factory 74 RH and RNs had way more suspension travel in late 74 than what the rules allow so they would not be pre 75 legal . If i read the rules correctly then as they are 74 designated models ( allbeit works bikes ) they are not eligible for pre 78 either  :) so in the unlikely event somone unearths a 74 factory RH or RN they would have to ride it in Evo  ;D
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2013, 01:09:07 pm »
Quote from: Ted on October 29, 2013, 01:01:35 pm
So in 74 Joe blogs could go down to his local Suzuki dealer and walk out with a RH 74

I think so Ted as long as he was fast enough and the dealer was happy to sell or sponsor him on one .

I think they were only available in the UK , NZ and Australia though  :-\
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2013, 01:29:52 pm »
I realize that Bill, but Joe blogs is just your average racer. Not an expert.

Availability to the public as a whole is the issue.

I am not questioning Dave's integrity or his bike, it is just that he is the only one that I know of with a RH

My point is : It being a RH ( works, semi works, limited edition, only available to a selected few, whatever ) would have Pre Production parts fitted to differentiate it from a TM. Exactly the same as Anthony Gunter had in 1977 when he had a Suzuki alloy arm fitted to his 370. I understand the RH may need to be lowered to comply with Pre 75 rules . Both bikes were limited edition works/ semi works bikes available only to a select few.

If the RH is legal surely the 77 alloy arm has to be deemed legal as well.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2013, 01:37:33 pm »
I think you would find Bill, if you limited the suspension travel to pre75 spec's , those 74 RH/RN's are in....it would be great to see more of that stuff out and about. I'm building a replica OW12 out of a YZ250B, I have some cool OW parts for it and it will be pre78 legal. 8)....speaking of which....how's me parts coming along...LOL... ;D
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2013, 01:40:46 pm »
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So in 74 Joe blogs could go down to his local Suzuki dealer and walk out with a RH 74
In 1975  my mate was looking to move up from his Maico so I accompanied him to Hazell and Moore in Wentworth Avenue, downtown Sydney to look at the new RM-A range. While he was talking turkey with the salesman I wandered over to a line of about 6 RH75s and a couple of RH74's that were up for sale. They were for sale to anyone with the money in their pocket for discounted prices just to get rid of them because they wanted to sell RM's not limited edition bikes with no parts backup. The RM-A was arguably a better bike that the RH75 anyway. If only we had a crystal ball.
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My point is : It being a RH ( works, semi works, limited edition, only available to a selected few, whatever ) would have Pre Production parts fitted to differentiate it from a TM

Very few, if any RH parts ever went onto production models.
 
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2013, 01:46:50 pm »
Ted, the optional alloy arm for RM125B's is legal....always has been....it's just you guy's make a mountain out of a molehill.
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2013, 01:51:10 pm »
Quote from: Davey Crocket on October 29, 2013, 01:46:50 pm
Ted, the optional alloy arm for RM125B's is legal....always has been....it's just you guy's make a mountain out of a molehill.

OH brother not this again....... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Works bikes
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2013, 01:54:48 pm »
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it's just you guy's make a mountain out of a molehill.
Or a storm in a tea cup ;D.
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