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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2013, 01:05:46 pm »
pre78 Classic Nationals Nov 1,2 &3rd. Pialligo Ave, Fairburn  ACT  ;)  ;D 

Well done, to you and your shed mates  8) 

Cheers Ali, and thanks again for helping dumb dumb, hey any sidecars at Nats?^

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2013, 01:18:46 pm »
Have had Great service from Powerdynamo



http://www.powerdynamo.biz/eng/systems/7201/72015main.htm

When I raced a T250 Suzuki in P4 that was fitted with a  Small coil rewinds setup based on a KX80 EARLY model  worked very well as it started at low turn over speed easy starting

Cheers

Run the oil pump wired at halfway open then also run premix
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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2013, 04:49:31 pm »
MOST use Boyer/Brandsen but I have had little luck with them and they have cost a couple of big races.
There is lots more available these days, even stuff fron Dick Smith that will do the job .

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2013, 10:41:43 am »
Have had Great service from Powerdynamo



http://www.powerdynamo.biz/eng/systems/7201/72015main.htm

When I raced a T250 Suzuki in P4 that was fitted with a  Small coil rewinds setup based on a KX80 EARLY model  worked very well as it started at low turn over speed easy starting

Cheers

Run the oil pump wired at halfway open then also run premix
sound good, so the whole kx system including fly wheel  and what ratio on the premix?

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2013, 10:46:17 am »
MOST use Boyer/Brandsen but I have had little luck with them and they have cost a couple of big races.
There is lots more available these days, even stuff fron Dick Smith that will do the job .
yer makes sence just get rid of the points  8) cheers

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2013, 08:20:11 pm »
Bert at Small coil rewinds used the Early KX80 stator plate and flywheel his own CDI box then a LC250/350 Yamaha twin lead coil ring Bert to get a Quote
Keep in mind still have to make a back plate to fit the Suzuki motor plus change the taper on the flywheel bit of stuffing around but it did work very well

Lots to choose from comes down to Price and with a Sidecar might need a heavy  Flywheel weight to drive the little 250/315 working hard

Pump locked on halfway plus 32 to one ratio premix and try to stay under 9000 rpm working that hard plus the weight Suzuki crank b/end will shit itself   ::)

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2013, 10:17:47 am »
 try to stay under 9000 rpm
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Bahhahah...that'll be the day...... :D :D :D

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2013, 04:50:02 pm »
Bert at Small coil rewinds used the Early KX80 stator plate and flywheel his own CDI box then a LC250/350 Yamaha twin lead coil ring Bert to get a Quote
Keep in mind still have to make a back plate to fit the Suzuki motor plus change the taper on the flywheel bit of stuffing around but it did work very well

Lots to choose from comes down to Price and with a Sidecar might need a heavy  Flywheel weight to drive the little 250/315 working hard

Pump locked on halfway plus 32 to one ratio premix and try to stay under 9000 rpm working that hard plus the weight Suzuki crank b/end will shit itself   ::)

Cheers good stuff always good to hear stuff thats been done and works now about that RPM thing I am not a tachometer nor a rev limiter  :D

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2013, 04:52:00 pm »
try to stay under 9000 rpm
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Bahhahah...that'll be the day...... :D :D :D
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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2013, 06:38:42 pm »
OK  OK  forget the 9000 rpm

The T250/305/315  Suzuki twins  if you rev shit out of it  you will blow a bigend usually the rh side

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2013, 12:01:35 pm »
OK  OK  forget the 9000 rpm

The T250/305/315  Suzuki twins  if you rev shit out of it  you will blow a bigend usually the rh side

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yes, yes you will  ;)  the road race boys go to great lengths to make them into 4 bearing cranks to pull reliable 12000 rpm :o plus lots of crank rebuilds in between.
so max 7500 rpm for me and keep it at 40 hp if we can achieve reliability we are in with a chance  ::)
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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2013, 03:40:27 pm »
WHOO HOO  ;D It started number 47 PRE68 started and sound like a frikin TZ  :o just hope it goes ok :-\ spectacular here we come (we hope)

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2013, 05:44:51 pm »
Whatsit weigh Shelpi, any idea??

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2013, 11:50:09 am »
Whatsit weigh Shelpi, any idea??
Ah let me see there's 2 pints to a quart and 3ft 3" and 3/8" to a meter  :P the square root ...........
Nah no idea   :o std bike was 140 kgs, Ill go and weigh it and get back to ya!


now let me see half a tonne of sidecar minus rust = ........................

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Re: rebirth of the pre68
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2013, 01:33:24 pm »
Whatsit weigh Shelpi, any idea??
only done with bathroom scales  :o the answer is ......drum role ............. WET not dry .......
200kgs :o ??? :-\