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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2013, 07:34:28 pm »
Man that looks so much better than the last time I rode it. Awesome effort Eric and the rest of the workers.

I hope that the club changes its mind about the long term use of the track. After the Nats I reckon the NSW vintage fraternity will be keen to run events there. I know our club will  ;D  ;D  ;D

Hopefully track concerns can be put to bed now and we can all get together to support ACTMCC to put a great event.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2013, 09:46:31 pm »
Looks fantastic, great work guys. Only 4 months away now, excitement is building.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2013, 10:04:12 pm »
Wow, I'm impressed. Good work......I think we can now look forward without any worries to a great Nats on a great open class track.... ;D.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2013, 08:58:05 am »
Still no answer on the width for sidecars....I take it they're not keen for us to come.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2013, 09:20:43 am »
What's the question? The track is now proper MA width (at least), although my non-tricycle-trained eyes think there might be a few spots where two tricycles side by side would be cosy.

A fair bit of the track has embankments on either or both sides. Some banks are vertical, most are angled. Some are quite high (a couple of feet), most are a foot high or less. This creates a feeling that the track is narrower than it really is.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2013, 09:38:32 am »
What's the question? The track is now proper MA width (at least), although my non-tricycle-trained eyes think there might be a few spots where two tricycles side by side would be cosy.

Nathan your making that common mistake people make that those trolleys actually pass each other  ::)

How did Joan put it at Connondale " look at this procession of flucking wobblers taking up valuable track time FFS "  ;D

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2013, 10:28:37 am »
For the track to comply to MA Track Standards it should be a minimum of 7 metres wide.  A TRA can be used in places it can't be changed, but only in extreme circumstances. Also remember MA are the RCB.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2013, 10:49:52 am »
I don't know the particulars for Kumagutza but you'd be battling to find a track anywhere in NSW or the ACT that's been designed with sidecars in mind. If there are any special sidecar compliances needed for a motocross track layout, it'd be doubtful they would be considered when licencing a circuit. I know it's hard to believe to those who live in the states that still have sidecar motocross but sidecars haven't been a part of the average motocross program in NSW or ACT for forty odd years.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2013, 10:55:24 am »
SO..... tell me Bill, was he on one at the time when he was mentioning this to you? If he was, he was most likely the reason it was 'wobbling'  ;)
As has been mentioned, as long as there is a good start straight, most will be sorted out by then.
'tis a shame that we are such a hassle for most clubs,we are however part of the history of this sport and do need to been seen even if it is only as a deformed sibling. SORRY about that. Perhaps we could apply for a disability pension from Gillards new fund :D
'tis also a shame that Aust is such a wide brown land as it makes it very difficult to get all the wobblers in one place at one time.
We still pay for a licence and entries the same as able bodied motocrossers FFS!

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2013, 11:35:19 am »
No he was spectating at drunks at the time , where a couple of you were clearing it but most were just wobbling around ,CD7 I think  ;)

You will get no argument from me that a full field of sidecars at race speed is possibly the most exciting form of motorsport to any spectator . Some of the pics you and others post from Europe are spectacular but a very very long way from what is seen in Australian VMX .

Looking from the outside in the whole sidecar deal looks disjointed and out of step  ??? lots of in fighting and VMX classes that don't seem to suit what people have in their sheds, very small fields and a high mechanical attrition rate at meetings  ???

I know that the older solo classes struggle to get numbers (you yourself did your bit last Nats to boost pre 60 numbers ) but the general populas at meetings can relate to solos even the older ones .

With the trolleys very few people have probably ever witnessed great or even good  trolley racing and even less have experienced it either as a driver or swinger , so there is no connection .

Only my opinion but the VMX sidecar brigade are their own worst enemy , provide good grids of reliable rigs and put on some good close racing and event promoters will be doing all they can to get trolleys on the programe as they will draw a big spectator crowd .

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2013, 02:50:08 pm »
To my knowledge there are no special track requirements for sidecars (or quads) other than they will use two gates. So if there are 40 gates 20 sidecars (or quads) can start, 15 for 30 gates. The 2013 MOMS lists 1st, 2nd and 3rd places for the Pre 1975 Sidecars up to 1300 Championship class at the 2012 Australian Classic MX Championships so why wouldn't the Championship class be run this year. Why not ask MA. Sidecars are part of vintage MX, at least they aren't like the Road Race ones that leak oil on the track which requires a delay to clean it up. Then again they might leak but we don't see it.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2013, 02:55:43 pm »
Still no answer on the width for sidecars....I take it they're not keen for us to come.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2013, 03:05:41 pm »
the youtube video you are about to watch is of the track as Nat spoke of but this is not the finish of the work on the track , it is still to be topped with more dirt and so on .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ecJzZzHbU&feature=youtu.be

I have watched this video and while I can't measure it by just viewing the video, I didn't see anything that probably can't be handled by a TRA or two.  Clearly dust control could be an issue but I'm sure the club is preparing for it.

Lets all be positive and support the club.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2013, 05:15:52 pm »
Thanks KTM47......Not really my concerns. As long as there is somewhere to pass it will all be good. If it's good enough for solos, we'll fit in.
I am terribly sorry that we can't be more exciting or competitive. Oh, and that we have some issues with reliability. We are at least as competitive and as reliable as the solos that get around in most classes.
If we want to stand back and sling mud, not much of any racing we all do is worth watching and in reality, that's not what we're about. I think we're more interested in massaging our own egos in remembering how good we might have once been :)
Looks like it might be time to park the Wasp up. >:( 

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2013, 06:55:40 pm »
Man that looks so much better than the last time I rode it. Awesome effort Eric and the rest of the workers.

I hope that the club changes its mind about the long term use of the track. After the Nats I reckon the NSW vintage fraternity will be keen to run events there. I know our club will  ;D  ;D  ;D

Hopefully track concerns can be put to bed now and we can all get together to support ACTMCC to put a great event.

Cheers
Shaun
I ve done none of the lastest work Shaun its been the club itself