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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2013, 05:39:02 pm »
Brilliant! Just under 20 weeks to go and now,(from what I have been reading), we have a stick thrown into the front wheel. When it's convenient can someone let me know if I should cease co-ordinating the container? I don't need the grief. After several attempts to get in touch with Fred Senger regarding logistics for the delivery of the container I cannot seem to open the lines of communication. We have nearly 26 bikes booked for Canberra and it would be a great shame to can it now. I have competed at 5 nats since 2006 and have enjoyed all of them. I for one know how much hard work goes into organising a national championships (WA ran 2006), and WA guys have supported just about every nats since. What can we, (the vmx community), do to get this sorted? Is MA prepared to assist? God only knows how much money we put into their coffers in licence fees and levies! ???

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2013, 06:22:26 pm »
Relax Nick and get back in the shed!!!
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2013, 08:02:43 pm »
Surely either one track or the other will be ready. I like the sound of the modern track simply because I like air time. With someone like Dennis in the mix it will be in good hands.

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« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2013, 08:18:19 pm »
Fair enough. But for me the only British machinery that got "air time" in the same era as my earliest bike was the spitfire fighter or if I was to liken it to my AJS it would have been the Lancaster bomber, ( although that might have been a few pounds lighter!). :D

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2013, 08:29:40 am »
I think that Karma Gutsa is one of the best Natural Terrain tracks I have ever ridden and has the potential to be an asset to our sport, and it is one of the funnest tracks to ride, which is why we do this isn't it? I completely understand that the track needs to be a fun and safe ride for all levels of rider. Having walked it recently, with the equipment available in that complex, I don't think it would require that much work to be sensational for all levels.

I don't understand this fascination with rocks on the circuit. We raced Lake Glenbawn recently and every time you walk that track you come across rocks on the circuit, big ones. It is dirt bikes we are racing and as long as the big ones are removed during track prep, we should be fine. Everyone should be wearing chest protectors if they race dirt bikes anyway.

A truck load of old tyres, and a solid couple of days work for a few guys would provide the necessary padding for the handful of trees which are too close to the edge of the track.

The main issue I don't see an obvious solution for is dust, but there are enough brilliant minds and resourceful people connected with this sport, that if we work together, we could find a solution.

If the organizers need some volunteers to come help work on the track, if it was planned to fit into our race schedule I'd be willing to come help, the payoff would be worth it. A working bee weekend where you could camp there, work on the track for one day and ride it the next would be great fun.

With regards to the other track, it is an excellent track as well, especially turn 11, and the simple, cheap, quick solution to slow down the riders through the table tops is to create a sand trap just before the up ramps of the table tops or in the corners before. Its a natural terrain solution and it would turn the table tops into obstacles rather than flat out jumps.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2013, 10:21:00 am »
is to create a sand trap
Or just extend the up and down ramps too a gradual slope !!

Good on the ACTMCC for putting there hand up ..full support here  :)
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2013, 12:06:36 pm »
KJ222 has the right attitude. F the nay sayers.

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2013, 02:37:19 pm »
regarding any track albiet in this instance what we have done on modern tracks is lay out black plastic on the faces. dump some soil so its more like a mound and then after the event, they take the soil off with a bobcat until they see the plastic then its all done ! hey presto !!!!!

track is the same just easyily dumbed down, should need a relicence either as every thing is still in the same place.  just rounder :O)

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2013, 04:59:53 pm »
A truck load of old tyres, and a solid couple of days work for a few guys would provide the necessary padding for the handful of trees which are too close to the edge of the track.

The main issue I don't see an obvious solution for is dust, but there are enough brilliant minds and resourceful people connected with this sport, that if we work together, we could find a solution.

Some of the trees are less than a car tyre's diameter off the track... I don't know if MNSW accepts tyres as suitable padding.

The solution of the dust issue is to rip a whole lot of organic material into the track and let it sit for a couple of months. And then repeat at least once more before the event.


I rode Kumagutsa late last year on an ACTMCC rec ride day. As much as I enjoyed it, it wasn't fit for a club day at the time - and has only deteriorated since then.
It has SO much potential, but band-aid fixes and a couple of helpers are not going to turn it into a decent race track before November.
A solid plan, and the troops rallied might make for a different outcome, but in their absence I think tweaks to make the main track old-bike friendly are a far better option.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2013, 10:21:47 pm »
As long as there is camping, willing to ride anything [sloppy, rocky, dusty, table tops, obstacles, what ever]. As the event is not that far away a decision needs to be made on what track, so available workers can do what there able and then it is what it is.
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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2013, 10:32:07 pm »
You want an up date on the track well we have tonnes of dirt ready to top the track but this is be done closer to the event so its dosent end up down in the dam , dust control is sorted , dozer booked in a couple of weeks time and lastley thanks to the pea brain who contacted ma reguarding about the event having no confidence in the club to having the track ready  ::)

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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2013, 08:14:25 am »
Great update Eric, well said re MA comment.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2013, 09:52:15 am »
It would appear the club has everything under control.  Just let them get on with it.  MA has given the promotion of this Championship to the club so they are the ones who make the decisions.  Lets all be positive and do our part to make the Championship successful.  So get your bikes ready and enter for the meeting.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2013, 10:30:18 am »
Good news, I'm glad to hear the club finally has it in hand. It'd be a great idea however if the name calling ("pea brain") was left out of it. I don't know who Pea Brain was but I'm pretty sure he was acting in the best interests of a very concerned classic population . The problems are the usual ....a lack of perceived progress on upgrades to a track that obviously needs it and no information forthcoming from the club. That was all that was needed to spook the racers, already gun shy from the Post Classic Nats cancellation fiasco. Let's now move on and look forward to a great meeting on a well groomed Kumagutza ;). An occasional update post from Ekka or other club representatives would be a nice touch as well.
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Re: 2013 Australian Classic MX Titles
« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2013, 12:01:22 pm »
I'm with you Mark, people are coming from many thousands of km's away and it's not cheap as well as time off work, it's up to the club to keep people informed on what's going on especially when they know the facilities need upgrading. Nobody wants to go to a nightmare in the making.
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