Pre 78 Rule changes

[worms]

sorry boys, I'm off to Cairns Barra fishing for 3 days, I'm sure we will be at the same point when I get back, maybe page 20 though
the arguement is long dead. the rules are written for all, not some! so the rules should not be changed for some! leave pre 78 alone and just go race.

so long and thanks for all the fish

cheers worms

[Turtle.Inc]

Is this about Victorians and New South Welshman being a bunch of sore loosers?....they seen to be the only ones wingging....it always erks me too when you get the tossers that dont race put there 2 bobs worth in. The system works pretty good that we have, everybody that RACES has the same rule book to adhere too and it's pretty basic shit but theres always somebody that pushes the limits and when it turns to shit its not there fault....modern society= blame someone/thing else....it couldnt possibly be me...and then just keep arguing some invalid point untill you wear them down....sound familiar?..... You blokes need to get out of your dark, cold, dingey holes, come up to QLD (7 nil cockroaches) and race...we have a great time up here...2 awesome clubs...100's of happy punters....more race meetings than you could poke a stick at and get on with life. Mick, you should have thought about putting your post on here before you did it because up untill then no one had bought it up about someone being pinged for incorect travel and disqualified...I feel sorry for your rider as he is the one who got disqualified and its his name, not yours. Answer this...had your bike got away with it, would we be talking about this now......I think we all know the answer to that. The grids in the pre78 Nationals and how sucessful it was goes to show that where on a good thing.....another QLD inititive....you blokes would be still under your mushrooms if it wasnt for us....just follow us eh...learn from the best.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=762184

[huskibul]

        Quasi Queenslander ! sounds like Joh's back

[TM BILL]

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=762184

WTF do people move to a different country and then feel they have to hang with people from where they came from in the first place 

The Whinging prick who started that thread should fluck off back if he doesn't like the people  11 pages on weather another inch or too makes a difference  when theres whining wankers like that living amongst you .

Send the buggers back send the buggers back their black i ordered white ones send the buggers back 

[09.0]

Is this about Victorians and New South Welshman being a bunch of sore loosers?....they seen to be the only ones wingging....it always erks me too when you get the tossers that dont race put there 2 bobs worth in. The system works pretty good that we have, everybody that RACES has the same rule book to adhere too and it's pretty basic shit but theres always somebody that pushes the limits and when it turns to shit its not there fault....modern society= blame someone/thing else....it couldnt possibly be me...and then just keep arguing some invalid point untill you wear them down....sound familiar?..... You blokes need to get out of your dark, cold, dingey holes, come up to QLD (7 nil cockroaches) and race...we have a great time up here...2 awesome clubs...100's of happy punters....more race meetings than you could poke a stick at and get on with life. Mick, you should have thought about putting your post on here before you did it because up untill then no one had bought it up about someone being pinged for incorect travel and disqualified...I feel sorry for your rider as he is the one who got disqualified and its his name, not yours. Answer this...had your bike got away with it, would we be talking about this now......I think we all know the answer to that. The grids in the pre78 Nationals and how sucessful it was goes to show that where on a good thing.....another QLD inititive....you blokes would be still under your mushrooms if it wasnt for us....just follow us eh...learn from the best.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=762184

Ha ha I saw that one on foolsbook. You can have that one, that's all you got lol.

[vmx42]

11 pages on weather another inch or too makes a difference

I checked with my wife and she indicated that another inch would be appreciated...

[shortshifter]

247..you talkin a fatter shock or a longer shock or both..

[FourstrokeForever]

I have no idea how all these "rule" type discussions always turn in to a state versus state, mate versus mate slanging match.
I don't believe the suggestion of a submission to look at perhaps altering the rules was one mans attempt to qualify his bike! It was all about NOT HAVING TO MODIFY A STANDARD BIKE. How the hell can riding a STANDARD BIKE be called cheating is all I am agreeing with!

And quoting here

" So Vics and NSW'S are loosers and are wingging (is that the same as flying?) and VMXers who don't race are tossers and should be seen but not heard ?

and who is living in the darkages? run it by me again plz"

I really do take offence at being called a looser because of where I live and a Tosser because I haven't raced the last couple of Nats! Pardon me for being injured.

Maybe if I was such a tosser I wouldn't have volunteered my time, money and bike to marshall while you "Racers" get to have all the fun! I really enjoy sitting out in the pissin rain or dust watching other people have fun........

If only we were all as good as you! Thanks for demonstrating just how tiny your mind really is and how much (very little) you appreciate people taking the time to try and better OUR sport. I bet you're the type who has to be somewhere "NOW" whenever YOUR club needs help??

And I thought riding/racing old was meant to be for fun and not so full on?? I'm thinking that racing moderns isn't all that competitive afterall. I know when I was racing National enduro and MX series, there was none of this BS. Everyone was there for the fun of it and some guys (and girls) were faster than others.

Would it be a sin to suggest that those that are so serious about racing 30y/o bikes have a "PRO" only event where us "whingers" won't interfer in their sport!

Last time I looked, us "clubbies" make up the majority of all clubs......

[Iain Cameron]

 Too right TBM . If myself and other woblers where not at the rear of the field who would be paying for the events other than the clubmen . And to the fast guys out there please remember that you only look fast because we are so slow .    Iain

[FourstrokeForever]

Yeah Iain. Some people are just in it for the $5 trophies.....that us woblers help pay for. If only I was as fast as I remember I used to be. Then perhaps my opinion might carry as much cred as the fast guy now!

[albrid-3]

Yeah Iain. Some people are just in it for the $5 trophies.....that us woblers help pay for. If only I was as fast as I remember I used to be. Then perhaps my opinion might carry as much cred as the fast guy now!

I`ll second that comment, what fast guy`s.

[09.0]

Great points guys but this is all got nothing to do with the subject at all.
You have taken offence to a piss take to start with.
When has there ever been a meeting where the shit has hit the fan like it does here? Never!
I think I'm fairly articulate with my posts yet others just take part of what is said or don't read posts properly then the thread goes off on a bullshit tangent that has next to nothing to do with the original thread.

[motomaniac]

Poor old Brent, you lose sight of the whole discussion and what you are even talking about. The distinction between being laid back at club level as opposed to national level.
You and a fellow Vic talking about a lack of rule nazis at your 'series'. Same as a club day any where else. Yet completely different to a nationals as far as adhering to rules of suspension as well as other little things that are let go at club or 'series' level. Thats it. You need a political thread to really get your teeth into and go round in circles.
 

You as well as your constant misquoting ,rule Nazis this time,never had sight of the discussion you two headed dickhead( one isnt enough for you,probably since they are both so tiny).It doesnt matter if we are talking the Nats or the powder puff forking class the MA rule book applies to affiliated events and licenced riders .The riders that choose to ride the Nats are not prioritised over any other licensed rider .The original post of this topic was not a whinge but asked for opinions from fellow OZVMX members, you obviously have a problem with that ,with other VMX enthusiasts who dont race and with VMX racers who race in events oher than the Nats.What a sad case.

[09.0]

I think most were letting a sleeping thread lie but since you've woken it up let's get back to basics.
Is this a new rule? No. It's a foundation rule .
Why would such a rule have been out in place to limit a bike that is in standard trim?
Also, what is the thought process behind it?
And also, the same rule is in the foundation class being pre 75.
So why is it an issue now?
Would it be fair to at least think that the the one that started this thread and wants to submit a change of rule wants to now because his bike was disqualified? If it had slipped through the cracks, would he still have wanted to do this.
To me it's obvious why it's there. To bring the class closer together. So the '77 models don't have as much of an advantage over a 75 model. To get as many bikes into the class, so more bikes are competitive. Hardly a stupid rule.
On the other side of the coin, you just don't want to have to restrict the suspension from standard on your '77 model bike. So you have to weigh up if you feel it will be detrimental to the class as the rule makers thought.

[JohnnyO]

Don't waste your time and energy Brad..it's not worth it