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Offline worms

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are there too many class's in VMX
« on: October 11, 2010, 01:57:18 pm »
lets open that can of worms! Currently about 33 possible class's

how many class's are enough at national level, and this does not mean club level!

1st, would we all rather 15- 20 minute motos, Yes if you ask and not the current 3 lap races.

2nd, age group racing for all competitors, yes if you ask!

3rd, do we need to combine a lot of class's, but still score independantly, yes.

4th, are the Nationals about showcasing era's, no way, it's about racing period bikes.

5th, we should only have about 15 class's no more,

Cheers Worms
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 02:11:32 pm »
Oh Wormy......this should bring the sport savers out of the woodwork. Naturally, I've got a theory but I'm flat out right now doing other stuff so I'll join in a bit later. ;D
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 02:19:56 pm »
Are people asking for longer races? I haven't heard any real discussion on this (either for or against).



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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 02:32:59 pm »
No - 15-20 minute motos!
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 02:33:42 pm »
Be interested in the opions here, i was hoping to say PRe 78 racing only at the VMX nats, IF there were enough numbers to come.

but if you guys can come up with the classes "that will be subscribed too" then i can take it to the committee for the 2011 event list......

pps i cant last 4 x 15mins per class.

IF you do longer races thats fine but that would mean less starts/ events - if that was the case then i guess it would even itself out.  Could you go to say 8 lap races x 3 ???
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 02:35:12 pm »
Having not competed for quite some time, I don't know what the consensus it out there. But I personally think that 3 laps is a bit of a giggle and would like to see longer races especially at a National level.
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 02:38:39 pm »
Whats stopping the age classes being moved a pre 75 all powers ? that way everybody can race it not just as a 250 class ?
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 02:50:40 pm »
My two bobs worth    5 lap races or 15 minutes
                              Age group scoring
                              Combine races if  # are short
                             
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 02:51:25 pm »
being able to last has nothing to do with it, the Nationals should not be watered down from serious racing to accomdate unfit VMXers, thats what CD events are about, I'm trying to point out how the Nationals need to hold value for what we are racing for " a National Title" change is needed for them to have any value, 3 laps races are not a test of man and machine and thats why MA needs to set a standard and say 15 minute plus 1 lap and then work the programe to suit.
Lets have a standard set first and MA need to do this, what do MA value a National title at? for any other division, 3 rnds of 20 min, not 3 laps of whatever track is put-up.

Cheers Worms
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 03:47:07 pm »
Quote from: Tony T on October 11, 2010, 02:35:12 pm
Having not competed for quite some time, I don't know what the consensus it out there. But I personally think that 3 laps is a bit of a giggle and would like to see longer races especially at a National level.

lets see you do 3 or 4 laps of the Lakes at Awaba tent peg,(especially pre 75),that'll take the smile off your dial, ;D ;D, :P
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 03:57:05 pm »
 :D No doubt, but I'm with worms on this one, if it's supposed to be a 'National Championship', a 3 lap race is a bit of a joke.

I'll also admit that longer races suit me better.  ;) I'm too slow to do any good in a 3-lapper.  It's takes me 3 laps to get warmed up, but by the time I'm warmed up, I'm knackered!  :D  :D
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 04:12:51 pm »
yeah,by the time i finish my 3rd or 4th lap,i don't get the checkered flag,mines always the green flag,(for the next race, clear to go ::), :P
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 04:47:33 pm »
Hi,
yes you are right ,for all you youngsters, the Australian Nationals and State Titles
all Evo:      no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap,
all Pre 85:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
all Pre 90:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
all Pre 95:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
with all that modern suspension and handling you should be able to race all day,
cheers
« Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 04:50:46 pm by jikov »
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2010, 04:52:32 pm »
classic, at least you earn your title! ;D

Cheers Trev
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Re: are there too many class's in VMX
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 05:26:18 pm »
Quote from: jikov on October 11, 2010, 04:47:33 pm
Hi,
yes you are right ,for all you youngsters, the Australian Nationals and State Titles
all Evo:      no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap,
all Pre 85:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
all Pre 90:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
all Pre 95:  no age group, all powers, 45 mins plus one lap
with all that modern suspension and handling you should be able to race all day,
cheers
With that format there'd be no time left to run anything else... good thinkin :)
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