are there too many class's in VMX

[Rossvickicampbell]

being the eternal fence sitter - I will go with the consensus - but does anybody want to bet against me if I say numbers at the Nats will drop considerably if you go to 15-20 minute motos.  I don't care about the reasoning behind going there - just think about it.  Pre 65 20 minute races.................mmmmmmm  Over 55's 20 minute races...............mmmmm

Welcome to try it?

Now talk about opening the can   

[Davey Crocket]

Most of those pre 65 bikes wouldnt last 20 minutes running flat out.....either the owner would have a coronary or the bike would!!

[worms]

I would just like to see a standard set by MA, they need to make a clear ruling on what is required!

dont care about the old buggers really, as we all have to fall of the perch at some stage,

it's a joke, National titles are being handed out for 3 x 3lap, 2minute lap time, races.

There are too many class's and it waters down the titles.

I will get back in my can soon, but what value do we hold our titles to?

Cheers Worms

[JohnnyO]

Trev's right on the money with this one... 3 lap races are a joke.
They need to be at least 10 or 15 mins.
Yes there are too many classes, combine the weak ones and score them separately.

[Davey Crocket]

I agree with the O show.

[LWC82PE]

As the others have said, making races more than 3 laps at national level should be a high priority, especially for pre 78, evo, pre 85. Some people wouldnt even be getting warmed up by then!

[VMX247]

Yes there are too many classes, combine the weak ones and score them separately.

thank transponders for results      

Hard to please everyone all of the time,with class combinations..."I didnt drive  xxxx amount of km to race with that lot" 

[Nathan S]

.... combine the weak ones and score them separately.

Did you see the age racing discussion a few months ago?!

There was a lot of opposition to the idea of age races but combined but scored seperately.
At least when you combine an age race, you know that you're not causing anyone to miss out on a ride.

[JohnnyO]

.... combine the weak ones and score them separately.

Did you see the age racing discussion a few months ago?!

There was a lot of opposition to the idea of age races but combined but scored seperately.
At least when you combine an age race, you know that you're not causing anyone to miss out on a ride.

Whatever it takes.. the fact remains that there are too many classes.

[worms]

I think this wimssical attitude towards the Nationals is a joke, it's not about how many races everybody gets , it's about making sure there is content and merit for every title handed out. first things first, MA has formed a rule for everything except defining what consitutes a race for a National title ( in VMX) so why not set the playing field and then we can work towards how many races every oldfart gets ( No pun meant Oldfart).

wow, 3 by 6 minute races has little meaning when overseas oldfarts seem to able to race for 20min races and survive, sure keep short races at a club day, but the current 30 class's for the nationals just makes it weak as piss,

Please no offence to any current holders of titles, you earnt them, but Im sure you see the point, we need a stanard set by MA for all events and not just what will fit a venue and a time frame, then we can work out a way forward for all these class's, remmber it's not a CD event, it's for a National Title

Cheers Worms

[holeshot buddy]

i agree i have lost interest in titles
when they run 3 lap races
if you get a bad start or stall or minor drop  :'(
you cant make up time in the 3 laps
and with the cost of entries these days its
not value for money

[JohnnyO]

i agree i have lost interest in titles
when they run 3 lap races
if you get a bad start or stall or minor drop  :'(
you cant make up time in the 3 laps
and with the cost of entries these days its
not value for money

Yeah the idea of driving interstate and taking a week off work for 3 x 3 lap races doesn't really appeal to me.

[supersenior 50]

Here's a new idea--split the Nats and there's time to run longer races ,more motos ,and not drop classes.Maybe allow time for new classes [Pre 90] and slow the bleeding of numbers in the older classes. Hang on Ive heard of this before ,it was a proposal submitted last March.

[E74]

Maybe if the vintage scene just ran the up to Pre'78 races instead of all that evo and pre '85 junk, everyone could have more and longer races.... (and only 6 meetings per year)

and, the new Retro MX class racing could run events for 78- 81, 82-85 and 86-89 classes and they could have more and longer races, and.........

What's the bet all the meetings would pull bigger numbers.

[JohnnyO]

Maybe if the vintage scene just ran the up to Pre'78 races instead of all that evo and pre '85 junk, everyone could have more and longer races....

Aren't they the guys that are content with 3 lap races on those old jackhammers?!