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The pre-78 Nationals should be included with...

the pre-75 Nationals.
78 (78%)
the Evo and newer Nationals.
14 (14%)
where-ever - I don't care.
8 (8%)

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Offline Davey Crocket

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2010, 07:56:06 am »
Dont forget the sleeping pills.
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #166 on: May 30, 2010, 01:39:21 pm »
The major issue prompting my proposal to split the Nat was the increasing number of classes causing organisers to increase days ,drop classes [Narrogin ,Coffs , Tas.,Broadford ], reduce laps towards the end of the programm [Connondale] ,late presentations etc.
 Other benefits that follow this --intro of Pre90 ,age groups in newer bike classes ,longer races ,tracks tailored to the differing 30yrs 0f developement in our bikes etc etc. are bonuses.
  My initial thought was to split at Pre75,partly influenced by the example of the proven success of the WAVMX format.
  I proposed Pre78 on purely practical issues.The post split fields have a natural source of increase as the years roll on ,whereas the pre split can only increase by making it an attractive product to retain existing riders and machines ,and attacting new ones.
  I felt including Pre 78 made it more viable longer.There are very valid arguments on both sides ,as expressed on this forum.
  Continued back and forth on this runs the risk of becoming counter-productive.It is overwhelmingly clear that the vast majority agree a split is the way to go ,and the Commision has recommended this[together with some further progressive moves].
  The topic of where the split is made now must be left to due process.We have a sound Commission who wil guide this through and whatever the decision on where the split is made ,we need to get behind it 100%. If it needs some tweaking later after a couple of years,that's another matter.

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #167 on: May 30, 2010, 03:52:10 pm »
Well said Col

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #168 on: May 31, 2010, 04:46:07 pm »
[quote author=MA link=topic=13196.msg132882#msg132882 date=1275047469]
This forum should not be used By Dave Tanner or any other commissioner to aid their decision on the split. It should be by submissions from state controlling bodies representing their licence holders.
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  .....I do not agree that this forum should not be used as an AID in decision making on this or any other question that may arise from time to time BUT it is important that licence holders should utilise there club membership to put forward ideas that can then be dealt with by the various committees that have been set up in each state to promote licence holders interests. I feel that one of the reasons that these committee members often feel frustated at the controlling bodies seeming lack of interest in committees submissions, is that not enough riders make the effort to utilise the relevent committee through there club. If people were more forthcoming in this arena the committees would be harder to ignore. Unfortunately in these days club membership for a lot of people is only viewed as a necessity to get a ride...cheers wally.
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #169 on: May 31, 2010, 06:08:22 pm »
l think this forum should be used by the 3 Musketeers, then they can gauge the thoughts and feeling, the question asked by us riders regarding Vintage Motorcross.
Dave Tanner, Rod Mac Donald and the other who ever he is, your welcome to enter the house of horrors, or none as Hotel California, such a lovely place once you enter you`ll never leave. ;)
« Last Edit: May 31, 2010, 06:11:40 pm by DAVID#46 »

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #170 on: June 01, 2010, 03:15:54 pm »
For those who believe that the state of WA has it's head in the sand and is only interested in pre75 bikes.  then i would just like to let you know that the pre85mxwa club, which is only 6mths old has been able to get 25 bikes on the grid as a support class for the manjimup 15000.

"Head in the sand" I think not, passionate about it's vintage MX I think so. 
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #171 on: June 01, 2010, 03:56:16 pm »
Hey Dave, that sugar cube you ate in 73 still giving you trouble?
l think this forum should be used by the 3 Musketeers, then they can gauge the thoughts and feeling, the question asked by us riders regarding Vintage Motorcross.
Dave Tanner, Rod Mac Donald and the other who ever he is, your welcome to enter the house of horrors, or none as Hotel California, such a lovely place once you enter you`ll never leave. ;)

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #172 on: June 01, 2010, 05:59:07 pm »
Dave Tanner, l am very much a sweet tooth, but l also feel very strongly about our sport, you dave are very highly respected as our decision maker and rider, your heart is in the right place and l could not think of any other person that would be suit to the position that you hold. Keep up the good work and listen to us forum members. And Dave don`t forget the Commission needs us and we need the Vintage Commission.  2 cubes of sugar please
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 09:37:56 pm by DAVID#46 »

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #173 on: June 01, 2010, 07:42:04 pm »
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2 tubes please
Two tubes of what?

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #174 on: June 01, 2010, 09:39:47 pm »
just click, l did know what you guys where on about, l fixed it, thanks fellows. figure slip of the key board.

Offline Iain Cameron

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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #175 on: July 28, 2010, 03:28:27 pm »
Hi from tassie as a owner of bikes from pre 70 through to pre 85 .I think pre 78 should be with pre 75, the later bikes being to advanced .also my 50 year old carcus is not up to racing with kids on the newer bikes. iainyz
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #176 on: December 28, 2010, 05:54:39 pm »
It could possibly get pushed down to pre75 now from pre78, as the retro pre95 class's are coming through.
By the time MA has it all printed up and into the MOM's who knows what could happen between now and then with pre90-95. :-\
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #177 on: December 28, 2010, 07:17:39 pm »
Al - highly unlikely IMO - the pre 78 technology lends more towards pre 75 than later and additionally some places are struggling with pre 75 (unlike WA) so the numbers are needed there?  And where did pre 95 come from  ???
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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #178 on: December 28, 2010, 07:36:40 pm »
l think this forum should be used by the 3 Musketeers, then they can gauge the thoughts and feeling, the question asked by us riders regarding Vintage Motorcross.
Dave Tanner, Rod Mac Donald and the other who ever he is,




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Re: Nationals split: pre-75 or pre-78?
« Reply #179 on: December 28, 2010, 10:12:15 pm »
Hey - please speak with respect - that's Fatboy to you  ;D
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