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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: BONEHEAD on November 03, 2007, 03:16:45 pm
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has anyone used any of the products on offer from http://www.vintageiron.com/ as there plastics look great and i thought reasonably priced. ;D cheers BONEHEAD
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Vintage Iron's plastic's look great dont they Boney so I bought some for my YZ250H, and yeah quess what, The rear guard and sidecovers are Maier in a vintage iron bag.
I oppinion....shiney but shite
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hey dj, the side panels look the goods though, i have maier side panels on mine and they dont match up correctly but they will do for racing but when i wish to retire the 250g i would like a good fitting set and these look the goods, check this pic out
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Here's a 465 with XtremeYZ's side covers on
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Ok Boney I just looked at a genuine set and the vintage iron set and they are a pretty good fit(except the airbox side down the bottom of the airbox and at the frame junction where the number board starts to go down the airbox) but the airbox side doesnt have the airbox vents in it. My sets are yellow and the yellow is along way off but with the white it is probably ok. I would certainly use them for racing, but if you want to retire your bike and keep it looking original I would save your money and keep looking for an original set. Yeah I know how hard they are to come by, but at the end of the day, how much fun have you had on that bike, and what is the bike worth to you(whats the bike worth with genuine sidecovers). Do the maths, and see what you come up with. Hopefully you will be looking at that bike along time after you retire it, and all I have to say is that if you are happy looking at after-market sidecovers then go for it.
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ive had fenders from vintage iron before. they were M. Robert front fenders. they claim that these are made from original moulds/moulds taken from original nos fenders, along with their petty fenders also. they were that good they look like the genuine things, with the M robert logo and all. i cant tell that they are repos. The yellow colour was good too. if i was to get a Petty front fender i would get one from vintage iron as the colour is good and not bright like DC plastics and it even has the Petty logo. So i dont know, if they are reproductions as they say, well they are very good and i was very impressed. so i assume all their YZ stuff would be good
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What gets up my nose is that no one is making a YZ-'80/'81 front number board. Whats the story on that. And you will never find a new one, but if you are lucky enough too, every YZ owner will be trying to get it. And all these aftermarket repo plastic guys try to fob us off with a square, twin cable-saver flat piece of plastic rubbish, and have the audacity to tell us its as good as the genuine article. ::)
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Ok guys all I can say is I will go now and take photos of my 2 sets of YZ250G/H sidecovers (I am not worried about front and rear guards as you can still get them 'genuine' brand new) and you can compare for yourselves.
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What gets up my nose is that no one is making a YZ-'80/'81 front number board. Whats the story on that. And you will never find a new one, but if you are lucky enough too, every YZ owner will be trying to get it. And all these aftermarket repo plastic guys try to fob us off with a square, twin cable-saver flat piece of plastic rubbish, and have the audacity to tell us its as good as the genuine article. ::)
I cut down my Vintage Iron front number plate down and used a DC fitting kit
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Heres an OEM cover
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/80-YAMAHA-YZ250-YZ-250-LEFT-SIDE-COVER_W0QQitemZ250183364201QQihZ015QQcategoryZ35584QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i thought i saw the front number plate on the MAINLY MAICO site before the crash, its DC PLASTIC for memory but still looked the goods , i have genuine front and rear fender but would like nice fitting sidecovers, nathah seems to know a guy who is reproducing these plastics maybe he could enlighten us some more on this subject, this all came about due to fitting the pro form exhaust, i still havnt gone for a ride >:( so in general who happy with what, im with you DJ just looking at pics is not good enough until you fit the bastards ;D CHEERS BONEHEAD
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These are the sidecovers I have boney. Study them and pick the differences, there are a few.
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CG - I have been meaning to ask you where you got the number plate from as I happened to be looking at bike pics and I thought that number plate looks the goods 8).
DJ - That right side plastic is a fair way off and reinforces CG's assertion that none of the plastics do very well around the airbox area. I happen to still have the old side cover from the 250 (although it's had it). Do you think I could somehow modify the DC part to make the intake bits work? From what I've seen it seems to be the closest (???) XYZ looks good too, but I'm not sure about their service.
I bought on ebay some "NOS Original front and rear guards" for the 250. Still waiting for them to arrive. Time will tell what the story is.
Nathan has been very coy about MM's plastic exploits. I reckon mm could make a packet worldwide if he can reproduce something decent. Let's face it. None of the repros are quite there.
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im not to sure the G modle had vents for the intake side cover, i see what you mean DJ the edges are not sharp enough and nor are the mounting points , i like the look of the XYZ stuff so in the bin goes the maier shite and if i can find something to fit correctly with out burning a hole in the sidecover and seals the air box correctly then i will have to purchase 2 sets 1 for now and 1 for the future , so what is it VINTAGE IRON, XYZ,DC or wait and see if nathan comes up with something, my mate has an original R/H side cover if you know any good plastic moulder ;D im now leaning towards the XYZ stuff ???. cheers BONEHEAD
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Dude,
That's why I started the DC plastics thread. I am in exactly the same pickle as you. Maybe Les from Mainly Maico can sort out the XYZ problems ?? A friend of mine used to make plastic moulds and I saw a gap in the market, but the cost of creating the mould is prohibitive. You need to sell a truckload of them just to pay for the mould :o.
I vaguely remember someone (it might have been DJ) posting about how to stop the pipe burning through the plastic. Nathan swears by MM's stuff so maybe it is worth waiting for. Otherwise I think XYZ is the go.
I'm still at a loss the same as you. Certainly an opportunity for an enterprising business person.
Cheers
T.J.B.
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A nufty little idea is to wrap the pipe with exhaust wrap and go to your local motobike shop and ask the mechanics if they have any of the silver material heat shield stuff that is on alot of 4x4 bikes. It always seems to fall off the 4x4's and if they have any grab it(wash it) and glue it to the inside of the sidecover for extra protection. Use ados F2 glue. Exhaust sidecovers are getting rare and expensive so the more ya can look after them the better. Well just a thought anyway.
Is this what you are talking about YZ250H. ;D
Will anyway I hope these pictures helped some. And yeah we can send a man to the moon, give a guy a new heart and even build massive bridges, but no one can make a half decent YZ plastic sidecover ::)
By the way, those repo sidecovers have never been used and will never be used.
I hate repo sidecovers for YZ's, they are all shite, but its what you have to use sometimes.
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ok ive just done a comparo between DC and XYZ ,to me the XYZ stuff is the goods but may be a little opaque in colour , i dont care that much but there was a time when opaque was all the rage, the DC stuff just isnt sharp enough and does not come with the appropriate rubbers, im tempted to buy 1 of each just to see which fits the best, and then maybe try the VINTAGE IRON stuff but if its true what DJ says then forget it ;D come on nathan have you checked out your guys progress yet. ;D, i may even go to bunnings and get a couple of dunny lids and make my own like one of our fellow VMXERS did in reso tips ;D
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ok ive just done a comparo between DC and XYZ ,to me the XYZ stuff is the goods but may be a little opaque in colour , i dont care that much but there was a time when opaque was all the rage, the DC stuff just isnt sharp enough and does not come with the appropriate rubbers, im tempted to buy 1 of each just to see which fits the best, and then maybe try the VINTAGE IRON stuff but if its true what DJ says then forget it ;D come on nathan have you checked out your guys progress yet. ;D, i may even go to bunnings and get a couple of dunny lids and make my own like one of our fellow VMXERS did in reso tips ;D
XYZ offer side covers in Yellow, White, and Works(opaque)
http://www.x-tremevintageyz.com/products.php
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That's the one DJ. Old timers disease has not set in as badly as I thought ;). I'm good for a few more years yet. A great tip. It's probably in resto tips already, but if it isn't it should be. I have lost count of how many side covers that I've seen that are otherwise perfect with exhaust burns in them :(.
Those pictures helped heaps thanks. We now know that Maiers are also dodgy. Still OK, but not quite there if you know what I mean.
It can't be THAT hard to produce a good plastic. From the research I have done the plastic itself costs about 20c. The mould costs about $5000. That's a lot of mudguards to sell before you get your money back :o :o. I questioned wether there where that many YZ's left in the world. Although the front one does do a lot of years.
Never mind the search continues for a decent YZ plastic.
DJ - At least you aren't emotionally scarred by the stuff you've bought up until now ;D ;D ;D ;D
The search continues. Dunny lids are looking good :D :D It's going to be funny when you can't buy a white dunny lid for love nor money :D :D Buy shares in who ever makes then NOW !!!
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Try the shower wall linning, its shiney white, it bends, its easy to cut, and I think you can mold it with heat and if it gets a scratch in the shop its free ;) ;D
Oh and guys dont be telling everyone about the exhaust pipe and sidecover thingy as we yammie boys cant go giving everything away ;D.
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Your secret is safe with me mate ;). It's an absolute cracker of a tip. I'm not sure what shower lining you are talking about, but it certainly sounds better than Dunny lids :D :D.
Have you noticed that apart from general discussion the yamaha brand attracts far more attention than the others. That or we dribble more sh1t than the rest ;D ;D
Now waiting for Jake to post his pickies on the DC thread. Boney's side covers look pretty good. I reckon I would go for the XYZ ones. Pretty sure that is not Boney's bike though. It's got the wrong pipe unless it is an old picture. The one Boney has fitted looks SWEET.
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If you get fed up with white or yellow YZ's try Black instead
http://www.x-tremevintageyz.com/images/builds/build3left_lg.jpg
(I think it would look good with a red seat cover ;D)
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its not my bike but have been rooting around with my bike getting it ready for next weekends racing, end of year bash. im just going to go for the works set of sidecovers from bunnings,ive got the shits and cant hold on any longer :D i will be ordering XYZ in opaque and if they fit well i will let you guys know this is my christmas present to self as the 250G is stripped down for next season.see rooting around pic attached , rebuit front forks , put the polished levers on twin leading front brake,re fitted newly covered seat, polished scuff marks off tank, changed gear box oil, paint stripped swingarm,leaving the air filter and sidecover/pro form exhaust for tomorrow, its raining here on the central coast and beers allday ;D oh and fitted the near new YZ 465 SHOCK I FOUND AT THE LOCAL WRECKERS ;D
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She looks sweet boney. WTF are you talking about stripping the paint off the singarm??. I thought you had just sanded it back with W and D. Still looking at options for my swingarm. The one in the photo you posted looks pretty good (looks polished to me). So does the new seat by the way - well done and where did you get it from ??.
Be very interested to see how the opaque (you did well to spell that if you've been drinking all day) plastics look.
Cheers ;)
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i shit you not, i just used paint stripper and washed it off after about leaving it for 20 mins or 2 beers,the brand i use is sparko see pic, i even did it still attached to the bike, i used the same on the 125 h i showed you, little hint after washing off paint stripper use if possible a small sheet of metal fly screen this acts a pot scrubber and the results are good ,if you want the natural look ;D
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That's awesome mate. You should trot that tip straight over to Resto Tips. I'm going to do that (what you have done) with mine, but paint it with POR15 Glisten. Dear as poison and the blokes from the hub thread are going to give me heaps since I am a tight arse 2 for $5 a can man, but I have decided that I am allergic to polishing alloy. It gives me the sh1ts.
Hopefully the POR15 lives up to its reputation or the dude that sold me the stuff had better look out.
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if you look at the photo i forgot to mention i tried a little on my back rim and whatda yano it cleans them good to, if you need to use ,a little wet and dry, i hate polishing :( to but im happy with the results especially with the fly screen. ;D the seat cover came from this mob wiered name but he has everything. ;D http://www.ecologicalinvestments.com/trade.htm he advertises on e bay ;D
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doesnt look as good as my old girl boney.... ;D ;D ;) ;)
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wouldnt you like to have a swingarm lookin like this....bye the way its a special pro-fab design apparently. :P
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Now, Now, now guys, lets not get into a catfight about swingarms ;D unless I join in, coz mines better than yours ;D ;D ;)
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so guys how many races have those bike done this season and last season, is that a spec of dust on yours DJ? :D how long have you held the number 1 plate for ? :D all your swingarms look fantastic
and maybe after next weekend RACING i may clean mine a little better, just you wait ;D the pro fab looks great but what are they doing with the brake rod it looks to be in the wrong way ??? CHEERS BONEHEAD
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ANDREW have you got a pic of the other side?i want to have a look at the rear brake stay rod you have fitted to your bike ,is it alloy? where did you get it from is it like what xyz have on there bikes.
cheers BONEHEAD
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the brake rod on my yz is off a yz250j 82model bike, got it off ebay cheap for 10 bucks.... ;D
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Just took delivery of my XYZ extreme YZ yellow yz465 plastics including tank, and all i can say is that the finish and fit is outstanding, very high quality, but one thing i noticed was that the plastic was easy to scratch so i did a little finger nail test with my old blue IT plastic and the new yellows and the xyz plastic is definately softer, but maybe thats becasue its still new?? but i am very happy and they were a pleasure to deal with, just phone don't e mail as he gets too many to answer. I also had personal number plates made up for a 3rd of the price you get them here,. very nice, .... ;)
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Sounds Good TonyB. Don't you owe us some photos mate ;D ;D (EDIT : Sorry they were for the exhaust paint thread. I'm sure the guys here wouldn't mind you posting photos of the swedish ladies on here though). Did you bring back some dicounted ABBA albums :D
Love to see the xyz plastics fitted up.
Got my NOS front and rear guards. Very Happy they appear to be the real thing with yamaha packaging etc :).
All I need now are the side covers. ???
Thanks for the heads up on xyz TonyB. The complaint I had heard was regarding emails, so phone calls are the go.
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Hi Tony, I am actually still in Sweden !! and now I'm chomping at the bit to get back to my lil project, and I promise when its put together I will photgraph it including the pipe, and the maico 490 owners can drool over a bike that looks better for half the price ( does my jeolousy show?), seriously i owned and raced Maicos in the early eighties and they were'nt twice as good as a YZ465.
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Geez,
Luckily you are over here in the safety of the Yamaha area. Otherwise them would be fightin' words :D :D.
I don't give it long until a Maico owner chimes in.
Look forward to your photos when you get back mate. Try and stay warm ;D.
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any body heading to clarence on the week end,if so call in to windsor wreckers unit 13/46 mileham st (windsor side of the railway line). i have a set of maier,a set of xyz side covers and a nos yamaha left side cover in yellow,for one of my projects.
i havent fitted the xyz covers yet but they look the best.you are wellcome to do the big comparo
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Any chance some photos of them all side by side Krusty ? If you don't know how to post them email them to me and I will put them up for you.
They sure would sort out a lot of questions people (including myself) have about what's what.
At the moment XYZ seem to be winning. Please tell me the picture on their web site is of the opaque one :-\.
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its the opaque one ;D
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Thanks Boney. Or did you just tell me that 'cause I asked you to ;D
I think it's going to be xyz for me
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opaque and a set of white for me please santa, they look a real good fit going by all the pics of there machines, now lets hope there ordering system is up to scratch. ;D
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i will take some pictures over the weekend,i dont know how to put them on here.the guy from xzy,scott,is hard to get hold of,but he does get back to you.he runs the store when he gets home from work and i think its gone crazy
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I owned & raced a YZ465H back in '81 . I now own & race an '81 490 Maico & I reckon that it is twice as good as the YZ pogostick Yamahammer was back then. I give myself an uppercut every time I think back , for not forking out the extra dollars for the Maico in '81. Maybe with the use of modern shock internals the monoshock can be made to work ok these days, but it was certainly the main thing that spoilt the bike back then (as well as the topheavy feeling from the shock high up in the frame). Not that I am that great a rider, its just that the Maico handles that much better & as a package is so much easier to ride than the Yamaha (or anything else of that era for that matter). In my opinion , the next best thing to the '81 Maico in the open evo class is the '83/'84 Husky CR500 (although they don't turn that well). Dennis the KTM fanatic, might argue that the 495 is also a good thing & they have more power than anything else in the class , but they handle like a wheelbarrow full of watermelons & so are only good for winning the drag race to the first corner.
So sorry, Tony B ,for sticking my head into the Yamaha camp, but somebody has to check up on you guys occassionally to make sure you are not blaspheming Maico's good name. :)
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subtle as a excavator on a golf course ;D
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Hate to say i told you so ;D ;D ;D ;D
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piss off husky shitbox maico lovin fag boy, i work on german cars and they are shit so therefore there bikes are shit, i hear by end this post ;D
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Yeah Boney you tell him ;D, motocross is all about winning and the Yammie 465 did that. No point in having a bike that only goes for half the races ;D
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Maico boy Maico boy ...Jeolousy jeolousy, cos the maico boys know we got money left over to spend on the piss after the racing to celebrate our Yamahas winning. ;D
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yep these guys shit me, with there why wont it start , can you give me a push , i just put a victa priming pump on it and my left leg is my goodone obviously not much going on the maico forum so they have to put there nose in and have there say about ive had this and ive had the that now i own this and look at the money gone into it but give me a push start ,much appreciated . ;D
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Here's a picture of the 81 works Maico revealed. Actually this was the attachment they designed at the maico factory to catch Hannah ;D
To view this masterpiece of german precision engineering click pdf file attachment below ...,
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To use the car comparison of Bonehead , I can't fathom why Tony B would own a 465 Yamaha after owning a Maico . It would be like trading your 911 Porsche in on a Datsun 180B ;D . As for Bob Hannah, he would have won if he was riding a Bultaco :) . The reason 465's won races back in the day was because good riders were riding them . I reckon that the ingredients of winning a motocross race are 70% rider , 20% bike & 10% luck .
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I owned & raced a YZ465H back in '81 . I now own & race an '81 490 Maico & I reckon that it is twice as good as the YZ pogostick Yamahammer was back then. I give myself an uppercut every time I think back , for not forking out the extra dollars for the Maico in '81. Maybe with the use of modern shock internals the monoshock can be made to work ok these days, but it was certainly the main thing that spoilt the bike back then (as well as the topheavy feeling from the shock high up in the frame). Not that I am that great a rider, its just that the Maico handles that much better & as a package is so much easier to ride than the Yamaha (or anything else of that era for that matter). In my opinion , the next best thing to the '81 Maico in the open evo class is the '83/'84 Husky CR500 (although they don't turn that well). Dennis the KTM fanatic, might argue that the 495 is also a good thing & they have more power than anything else in the class , but they handle like a wheelbarrow full of watermelons & so are only good for winning the drag race to the first corner.
So sorry, Tony B ,for sticking my head into the Yamaha camp, but somebody has to check up on you guys occassionally to make sure you are not blaspheming Maico's good name. :)
Husky me boy. I note your passionate persuasive tirade but I remain unconvinced but with an open mind. There's only one thing to do; we'll have a 'forum shot out'. We'll all turn up at an agreed track, at an agreed time, takes turns and do a couple of laps on your Maico and Boneheads 465 and then vote ;D.
And just to make it fair we'll do it a several different tracks....and in different weather conditions ;D
Come on guys lets name a date; whatcha reckon, the highlite of CD5 ;D
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I own a 465 YZ, 490 YZ a 465 IT and a 490 Maico. I love my Yamahas, always have but the're not comparable to the Maico in any department except brakes. You can always tell the ones who've never ridden a Maico 490. Once you've ridden one you realise that the hype is pretty true. I was a disbeliever until I got mine..........
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what about some 1 on 1 grudge races at CD5 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Who's gonna let us Yamaha boys loose on their Maico's .Geez if there as good as the hype we will fly
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i gotta ride one of these suckers, i'm with Hilly, anyone want to swap a MC490 for a few laps on
My 1985 Honda CR500RF Mothership !
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Lets get every example together (CR500RE, YZ465, RM500, KTM495, KX500, Husky CR500, Maico 490) for an ultimate big bore shoot-out, no more hype, no more bull shit, just the ultimate bragging rights. How about that for the main feature of the next VMX mag issue or the one after that, I am sure they could find good examples of each machine to do an ultimate comparison.
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Wow you got me God i would pay money to see that Startline , I wouldnt want to be stuck behind them goin into the first corner .
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Why do we need a shootout now ;) ??? when the best shootout that you could have was in 1981. And the winner of the Open class 1981 MXGP was Honda, second was Honda and third was Yamaha. Also the winner of the 1981 AMA Open class was Yamaha, second was Yamaha, and third was Honda. ::) so if these Maico's are so good (as in 'twice as good') why didnt I see Maico in the results. ;D ;D ;D
In fact from the years 1970 to 1985 Maico didnt win any 'Open class MXGP' titles but they did manage to get 2 second place and 3 third places, and when you add in the 'AMA Open class' podium finishes from 1972 to 1985, 1 more second and 2 thirds can be added. So yeah I suppose 8 podium finishes in two different competitions over 16 years racing isnt bad ;) ;D ;D ;D Yep, I can see were you Maico boys are coming from about your bikes being twice as good ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ummm, yeah in the same competitions thoughout the same years Yamaha stood proud on the podium 20 times with
9 wins, 7 seconds, and 4 thirds.
Yep a shootout for 1981 back in 1981 would read, Yamaha, 'Open class AMA first and second' and 'Open class MXGP third', but nowhere in the results does it say Maico. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i dont own a 465 yet, but i was just interested in plastics that fit ::)
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Besides dumping the plastics will fit forum and missing the point I still know that for something to be worth $10000 as compared to something that is worth $5000 it has to be twice as good or almost twice as good, that would be like pitting a 200cc against the 490 maico, and I can assure you Maico boys the 465 aint no 200... I concede that the maico is better, but nowhere near the "twice as good mark." As for Dirt bike mag in the 80's they we so pro maico it was obvious to all. Those were the days when people were bored with Jap bikes and the yanks were cube crazy , so when a big cube euro bike came on the scene and it handled well, it created a overly enthusiastic report which a lot of magazine readers believed...
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TonyB, I would've thought the Maico boys would've come back with the boxing gloves on but it looks like they have given up ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I have been feeling guilty about hi-jacking the Yamaha plastics thread , so I thought that I would keep away for a while . I apologise to Bonehead & the other YZ guys. Some interesting comments came out though . I could talk more about why Yamahas won titles back in the day , but here is probably not the place to do it. A big bore evo shootout in VMX mag (although they are probably going to do one anyway , as the 250 shootout was a good read ) would be a great idea & probably should have a thread devoted to it in general chat . I think that there would be no surprises in which bike would win , but the runner up spot could be interesting :).
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Ahh! I wondered how you could talk about 'plastics that fit' for so long! I didn't bother looking in here because all my plastics fit and i don't own a Yammie! Alot of Maico bashing goin' down eh? :D OK boys,did someone say race??? CD5? You are on! Hoony,you can ride my 490 anytime,CD5. Hype, hype, hype... belieee dat! Maico twice as good?? Never ridden a YZ but yeah its twice as good :-*
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G'day 090,
would love to take you up on that mate, its on my "must do " list. :D roll on CD 5 !
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http://klubkevlar.com/index.php?cat=7 (http://klubkevlar.com/index.php?cat=7) A little piece I did for ADB in 2003.
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Yeah i lined up against one of them KTM520 after his Bultaco blew up at Broadford and smoked it on my YZ400E.
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http://klubkevlar.com/index.php?cat=7 (http://klubkevlar.com/index.php?cat=7) A little piece I did for ADB in 2003.
Nice article Firko (I've just finished reading it) but its compares a Maico with a modern KTM, and the Maico compares favourably.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between a YZ490 and a WR450 (hint, hint). Then we might have a basis for drawing a conclusion.
But it would be more relevant to have a Maico - Yammy 490 'head to head' shoot out report.
It would be even better to organise a 'forum shoot out' where each of us plebes can test ride both ;D. But then that would probably end the controversy and kill all conversation; whatelse would we argue about? ??? ::)
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I put the 450 Yamaha up against Garry Benns ex works HL Yamaha in ADB earlier in the year and the YZ flogged the HL in every department. The next shootout we've got planned is a CR500 V CRF450 sometime early next year. In my honest opinion though, the YZ450 would flog the 490 in every department. We've ridden both along with an '84 500 Maico all on the same day with five riders ranging from a fit A grader to fat old pensioner me and the YZ450 flogged the Yamaha and Maico. It's not the result I wanted as it's my Maico but the truth is the truth. Interestingly the 2001 WR360 Husky also there beat the Yamaha YZ in all departments. Remember though, this wasn't anything official, just a bunch of mates having some fun.
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firko there talking yz 465 and maico 490 different kettle of fish ;D
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Paul....Have another read, Graeme is talking about a 450 v 490 shootout and that's what I'm responding to. ???
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sorry about that i must off been lost in some other thread in my head,+ my seeing eye dog is haveing lunch ,if you like you can get the topless klub kevlar girl to walk up and down my back in high heels as punishment sorrrrrrrrrrryy mistress heheheheheh
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do the plastics fit ::)
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Spoke to Scott W today. The Concourse Parts bits are still happening, but slowly due to them wanting the parts to be right.
Current ETA:
D/E/F guards early next year, the rest of the D/E parts mid next year.
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nathan do you think they will be making G/H plastics, if they need genuine plastics to make the mould from im sure we can russel up some sidecovers, my mate has a good airbox r/h sidecover if needed,let us know and lets see what we can offer. ;D ;D
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Yes. Scott's been buying up NOS plastics and even whole bikes to be sure that he's got good samples to copy.
Like everyone, the rest of life gets in the way sometimes...