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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: albrid-3 on June 19, 2009, 11:01:12 pm
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Who am l, #33, #45 # 110 ,name the riders and name the track and year, see who will be right.
I will give you the answer soon. Lets see how knowledgeable you are.
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33 is John Boeg i think. DREW
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Great pic Dave, Ray Fisher ran 33. Mike Landman ran 45, :-\ 1970 Maybe?
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That is defiantly Ray Fisher on#33 and Landman on#45 the track Looks like it could be Pakenham looks like they are on 125's not sure about #110,do you know who that is coming up the inside of Ray,great shot have you got any more from the ERA,
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Great fellows, done well, l have lots more., yes it is Pako track 1972 , #33 is ray, mike landman #45, 110#?? not sure . Gary o`brien #54, on the right of ray, it is a three diget number, Ed Landcaster 181 ???
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Who am l, Name track and Riders
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Dennis Curran 49, Alan Collison From NZ used A in 1973, but he rode a 400 husky :-\ ? looks like the jump on the main straight at Pakenham
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I go Dennis Curran 49 and maybe Anton Alers would have been a junior at that time,
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That`s right, Anton and Dennis what track
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Allbrid you mite want to double check I think you will find that in about 73 Anton would have been a Sub Junior 14-16y/o and Dennis would have been a Senior, keep em coming,
#8
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Who am l, l will give clues on this one
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Alan Osbourne?
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Very good number 8
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Anton used 3 as a race number from what i remember on 125 elsinore, was real quick.
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What track and name the rider
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Gary Adams Barrabool
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very good, who is the #79
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KB
That is the way I remember Anton as well,
#8
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Gary Adams,I dont know the other?
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Name the Three riders, and the Track
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Adams,Mick Nicol on 7 maybe John Boag on 1
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#8, you are good, tell me the track.
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Greg Flood used 79 suzuki amongst others :-\
Sadly Antons race career ended after a bad prang at Christmas Hills in the 1977 Grand National,
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It looks like Western Centre meeting is it Barrabool
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No,
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Kb that looks like a Yamaha DT and te style does'nt look like Floody to me,
#8
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Allbird,ya got me,
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#8 What Style? ;D
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Name the track and Rider
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KB,my memory is failing but am sure he had a "style" some where
#8
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That would be #93 on the Montesa?
#8
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I was referring the chap in the pic :)
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He is a Geelong sporting club member
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Allbird,It looks a bit like Jack Pengally's style but I dont remember him on a Montesa or the #
#8
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Yes, Jack did race montesa for Lyall at one stage,
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The rider is Neville Palmer and the track is Barrabool
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Sorry for the Allbird spelling Albrid,keep em coming it's a lousy day here so this is keeping me entertained,Thank's
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Who am l, what year, what track, what capacity engine do l race. Today my race is 601, But mainly race under #60
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Albrid,is it Heard,are these shots Centre meetings or Open's, shots are a bit small to pick the tracks it could be Barrabool again?
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Your Are right it is my Mate Johnny Heard, and yes it is a Closed western centre meeting at Barrabool
you are very good #8
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This l know l was at the meeting, he race for one or a couple of meetings while staying here, who am l and name the bike, and track.
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Albrid,Its Brissoni at the Wallan international meeting,and it's the SWM
#8
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#8 very good
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Who am l
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Gary O'brien
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Who am l, what Track am l racing on
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Gary O'Brien,Grand National maybe,Christmas Hills,
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Who am l, and where am l
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Albrid,Is it Per Kitland,at Barrabool again,
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Albrid,How am I doin and what have I won ;D
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NAME THE TRACK, AND RIDERS
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Number 8, you are very good, you have won the race.
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So what do you think about these photo`s agend 8
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Christmas Hills Left to Right,Gary Flood-Trevour Flood-Per Klitland-Gary Adams?-MickNicol behind-Ian Curran?-Mike Landman-Rod Hunter-Bernie Ryan-Jack Pengally
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Albrid,Luv ya pics have you got any of #67 on a Husky floating around,From Open meetings,
#8
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will check
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who am l, what bike and year of bike
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Mick Nicol 70/71 Husky 400?
#8
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Who am l and which track
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You are brillant, #8 you know your history
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Trevor Flood & Mike landman
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yes, excellent, how there isn`t anybody else having a go at this.
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Landman and Trevour Flood Wallan,
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Albrid,Thank's but I cheated I was there? ;D
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Unknon rider, race #500.
So you cheated, cutting corner HA, If you do it again you are Blacked flagged. ok.
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OK, #8 REVEIL YOURSELF.
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Dont know either but the track would have to be Christmas Hills,
#8
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# 8 did you ride greeves before husky;s ?
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Okay,ya Got me "A Grader from the 80's" who had a dad that was an A grader from the Late 50's ;) I grew up and watched and raced at meetings with all these guys that I named,
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KB-No,not me
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Oh well this is another number 67 then
Name the rider and the track?
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Gee that helmet, siddy christian or Barrows, it looks like sunbury, Not Siddy didn`t ride greeves.
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Kb,Thats fantastic,thats my Dad ,Johhny Armstrong thats cool ya got any more?cant tell you the track,
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Good old johnny, yes, well there you go. I know johnny, great rider, My mother was an Armstrong
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I have great memories of going to the races as a kid with my brother and my Dad,racing I believe is a very personal thing and unless you were the Top dog not to many people remember,
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Hows that ey? the track was off Mahoneys RD Camperfeild. south of Reservoir,and was the first meeting i;d gone to as a spectator,Your dad was at every meeting in those days.he always stood out with the yellow an black helmet, cheers
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KB
Yes He was ahead of his time with his custom painted BEE HIVE,He did'nt have the Greeves for long,I think he ended up with a Triumph Rickman after that,
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My brother Dennis raced a cotton cobra 250, Triumph 650 twin, Montesa la cross 250 1966, in 1967 Kawasaki F 21M , Montesa 360 gp 1970 to 1972, that was the end, at monza park, 15 bike crash, broke the ball off his foot in the gully before the climb. Never raced after that. Tried to get back into vintage. I still have him racing on CD and others, racing in the 60`s and 70`s.
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Thanks for the fun afternoon David #8
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Albrid,
Thats no good about your Brother,I have had my share of injuries I have enjoyed your photo's and could look at them all day,I am actually Gary my younger brother is David,I raced in Victoria from about 71 on mini's until 76 we moved to Qld, I moved back to Victoria in 80 and raced there until the end of 83,then stopped racing what I call seriouslymoved back to Qld, I was doing races up here and got hurt badly in 87,that retirement lasted a short time then I had a bit of fun racing Veterans on modern bikes and did a few Vintage races for a few years,The Thumper Nats for a few years,I stopped everything in 2003 until CD6 this month did a few laps on a YZ490 and as we talk I am contemplating racing at the 2009 Nationals, on another 84 YZ490 bikes there like magnets they drag you back,even after they have hurt you,
Thanks
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KB
Thanks for going to the trouble of digging that photo out I have emailed it to my Dad,dont suppose you would have any more hidden away,
#8
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yes l do
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No i havent but we must of been at the same meeting at wallan in 1974, you were in race 19 and i was in race 20.
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Albrid,
I would love to see them if your referring to the photo's
KB,
Thats cool I keep in contact with Grant Cramer and I see Andrew Bailey now and then bumped into Ronny Dinsdale at the Broadford GP that was a while ago now,I used to catch up with Neil Crompton when he was driving,and would come up to Indy,I even caught up with Dennis Dickman a few years ago he was one of the Skiers in the Water Ski show at Sea World,that event below was my first year in Sub Juniors,on the Husky slow as all hell,but a good bike to get the hang of big bikes on I ended up with Gary Floods MK7 125 Bultaco later that year,there a lot of familiar names there,
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Who are these dashing young men? Where is pretty obvious
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Photo 2...I'm going out so I'll put a few up and see who's right in the morning!
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Who and where?
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Firko,
10 is Adams is 7 Mick Nicol,Barabool again
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Is 138 Roy East?
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Dennis Dickman my old mate from geelong, whereis he these days.
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Albrid,
He was on the Gold Coast I dont know if he still is,
#8
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who am l
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Yeah its Roy allright but who's the bloke on his outside and where is it? Good work on Adams and Nichol. Barrabool was easy though, it'd have to be the most recognisable track in Oz!
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This one will stump you #8
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Albrid,
That Is the Jap guy that came out with Rahier in 75 my Dad got His and Rahier's and the tall Dutch guys autograph for me when we went to the Australian Titles in Tasmania but that shot is Wallan,
#8
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Very Nice Photo this one.
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Firko,
Could it be in the UK maybe Ray Fisher?The Honda rider could be Scaysbrook?got me on #11
Albrid,
I am guessing maybe You or your Brother
#8
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Albride,
Gary & Trevour Flood,
#8
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Who, where and what on?
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Firko,
OOOH ,Leon Street could it be a BSA 250/350 dont know where Moorebank?,and the 2nd one is Grunt,
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The guy on the outside of Easty in the UK (Farleigh Castle?)is Ray Fisher although the photo has been captioned as Derek Rickman but I don't think it is, not with amateur numbering like that. The Rickmans were a bit more slick than that.
#11 is Easty at Tivoli in 1970, the Honda CL175 rider is indeed Geoff Eldridge riding his first ever meeting at Bilpin in 1971.
I don't think #411 is any overseas rider, not on a fairly stock Kawa F11 at least!
Shit you're spot on #8. It's Leon Street on a B30/31 BSA in 1958. It'd be a fair jolt coming down with those big travel girder forks! Note no front brake!
Gunter is on the RH74 at Kembla in '75.
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Firko,
I think 411 is Albrid or he's Brother? thats a good shot of GE the first time I ever saw him was at the Aust titles In Tassie in 75 that Rahier was at and so was Vic Allan,I was fortunate enough to meet him and Vicki ?years later spent a couple of days with them when he was Living in Cairns,One of the things about that Aust Titles was the MK8 125 Bultaco Bert Flood had built for Vic Allan he actually past Rahier and won one of the 125 moto's ,It was my first Senior meeting on an RM125s and I was in awe?of the whole deal Rahier lapped me after about 10 mins and as he went pass I worked out who it was the proceeded to fall off,
#8
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No Not Me #411 is Bert Neville, he has a business in Geelong call Small Coil Rewinds,
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Who am l
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On your list kb Neil crompton ballarat rovers ??? ???
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Albrid,
I dont know 115 is 18 Kaiser?
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Who, where and what on?
A madman who has nuts bigger than my head and if that front end hadled the landing,.... it was a miracle!
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Albrid,
That Is the Jap guy that came out with Rahier in 75
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Masanori "Jimmy" Ozaki ?
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yes, that right
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My mate rebuilt the Leon Steet BSA 250 last year,not a lot of suspension ey ???
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Neil Crompton, only got a photo of neil`s Husqvarna 360 1975 model.
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The rider with the number #115 is Noel Freeman, he is in the bunch with John Kaiser #18.
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John Armstrong and Geoff Taylor on top, Ray Fisher down under Calder Rally crosss 1970,
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OK Who and Where?
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I can't justify it, but some dark recess of my brain is screaming "Geoff Eldridge".
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Albrid,
It came to me overnite the Jap guy I think was Ozaka? and #23 in the Christmas hills start is Ian Carrington,
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Thats right Gary, #23 was Ian Currington early days he rode a Zundapp mc 125
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Who am l , l am still racing
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some great pics there Albrid, did you take them all? do you have any sidecar ones from Vic in the Bergmeirer era with his 750 weslake?
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John Boag
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Albrid,
That John Boag shot,Is the track Ravenswood
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albrid, since no-one has even had a stab who is the guy on the F11 #411?
ah hang on a sec..Bert Neville..problem solved ;)
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Who and where?
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hint: He's an Aussie expat.
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unknown riders
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three bike photo , Roy East, and the rider on the DKW, LOOKS LIKE AN ADVERT FOR THE BIKE, RIDER DON`T NO
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gOT THE PHOTO`S GIVEN TO ME BY THIS MAN NEXT PHOTO
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Firko,
Thats Roy East again,not sure on the other 2 the lower shot is it Gibbs,
Albrid,
#20 could it be Ron Bergmier?
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You're pretty good #8. It is indeed Roy East ahead of Andy Lee (father of 1980 World Speedway Champ Michael) and some guy named Pringle (Bob?), once again in the UK. The lower photo certainly is Tim Gibbes who now calls himself a Kiwi.
Ironically the famous old Metisse Roy is riding in all of the photos will be in Kamp Kevlar at next years Classic Dirt 7 and may possibly be ridden. It'd be one of the ugliest yet most famous and effective Metisses outside of the UK.
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When the vintage started here in victoria this man was the forfront of it, he is not involved with vintage any more, but would like to see him come back, l offen see him at a local business here in geelong a great fellow and a friend.
he had a Nic name who am l
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Andre Matheson.
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Thanks to everybody, #8, firko, l just wanted to share these photo`s with you all, and thanks to Graeme for show an easy way to put these photos on the forum.
cheers
david
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Well Dave, what's the answer?
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Mark, his name is Jim van Sluys, Black jumbo
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One more ;)
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very entertaining thanks all
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With respect Dave....Unless Jumbo had lost a shitload of weight before that photo was taken it ain't him. The bloke in the photo is too skinny and on a Suzuki, not the CZs he was known for. I still reckon it's Andre Matheson.
Here's a good one.
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Kb,
I dont recognize any of those guys,but if you have more photo's keep em coming please,thanks for those shots of my Dad,
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I have no idea who this Husky rider at Barrabool is. Over to you Dave and #8.
You've got to love the flash clothing and helmets worn by the dudes in KBs classic shot. I especially love the Greeves rider on the rights school jumper.
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What about the CZ rider ??
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Sorry Firko,
Dont recognize that one or the number,that would be a 66/67 model husky would'nt
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KB, Is that a Beatle haircut or a beanie hanging out under the Stadium helmet on the CZ rider? I strongly suspect it's dear old Boagy. If you reckon these blokes are a fashion fallouts, what about the bloke below in his sunday suit!
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You got him Firko, at Ravenswood again, Well dressed mob for sure ;D
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Here's another one I don't recognise.
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Another from VIC
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KB,
#21 Looks a bit like Brian Clark?
The new shot YZ is Rex Wolfenden? was Andy Horne 71?
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He does look like Brian,not sure, TC91 might be able to verify that,
Yep thats Rex on the YZB he bought from Trevor Flood,
he never liked it that much, prefered Maicos,I now have that bike ;)
was told it was Kevin Brennen on the Elsinore
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Sorry Mark, Andra Matheson was still seaman when that photo was taken. And jim showed me the still photo`s of him.
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#85, That must have been an open meeting at Barrabool, because know one was racing Husqvarna in the western centre at that time. I have western centre Races on cd, l only sure husky at melborne meetings and open.
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Andre lives in Ballarat and has the local husqvarna dealership ;)
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Thats right Andre does live in Ballarat, that photo of the rider was 1972 Andre was old enoght to race bikes in 1972.
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Who am l. oversea Rider, a Great Rider
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Who am l,
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Great thread Dave!
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Unable to view Albrids pics, upgrade to photo bucket message on screen ??,anyone else got the same problem?? ???
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Yes same problem,
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Bugger it,must've run the tank empty :-\
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Yep I have shown the photo to dad and we reckon it is him no21. He only ever rode that bike once but cant remember who owned it. Thinks the track is Maryborough ( Moonlight Park) in about 68 or 9
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Yeah it is the old fella now that I look at it Tony. Being the matriach of Bendigo fashion, your mum must cringe to see him race in an old school jumper ;D. I look forward to catching up with you guys at the Nats.....
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What is going on, were are all the photo`s, gone. Thanks 211 Kawasaki, l hope you enjoyed them while it lasted. Their were lots more.
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It says to upgrade to Pro so I suspect you were using some sort of freebie introduction deal that expires after a certain time with Photo Bucket Dave. I use Village Photos http://www.villagephotos.com/default.aspx (http://www.villagephotos.com/default.aspx) and pay for the Plan C ($35 for 6 months) and haven't had a problem in 3 years...........
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E74
Is the speedway rider Cowboy Bob Sharp at Liverpool?
Steve.
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TC91 I should've shown him the pic when i was talking to him at the last ravo meeting , my dad an his mate are the two spectators on the left :)
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E74
Is the speedway rider Cowboy Bob Sharp at Liverpool?
Steve.
you are the MAN Curly, got it in one!
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Bob is my best mates Father, and gave me the greatest peice of advice as far as motorcycling is concerned that anyone has ever given me,.
" Don't be afraid of getting hurt, because you ARE going to get hurt!, just accept it and hold it flat"
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Sharpie was a larger than life character and was a mentor to a lot of novice speedway riders in the late 60's and 70's, including my brother & I.
I wonder if he is still kicking?
I remember him telling us down at the nepean river after a stinking hot race day that one of his philosophies of life was to eat heaps of steak and drink plenty of coke, "live like mongrel dog".
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Bob is alive and well in Tara Qld, I'm going there in a few weeks with his son Ron to see him, ...and Yes, he still lives like a mongrell dog!.
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KB 171 dad is looking over my shoulder at the moment and wants you to identify yourself. Says one of those blokes looks familiar
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we are back on track fellows
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TC91 he might remember my elsinore No171 more than my name,Bloke with the progams my dad George Brown,his mates Fred Allen. cheers Kevin Brown.
Yamaha rider on page 11 Ivan Miller
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Kevin mum & dad have gone home (out here for tea) but rang to tell him. He is still not 100% sure which track,do you know? He can recall the one off ride on the greeves but not where.
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I thought i was Ravenswood, I'll give Rob Watson a look tomorrow he may know ,cheers.
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Who am l, this is how we should look when racing vintage
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Who and where?
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Who, what and where?
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Who and where?
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Albrid,
I will go Kaiser again,
Firko.
1st pic Laurie Alderton is it Moorebank,2nd ? 3rd Scaysbrook may be Amaroo?
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Yes Johnny Kaiser
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Firko.
1st pic Laurie Alderton is it Moorebank,2nd ? 3rd Scaysbrook may be Amaroo?
First pic is one of two options I've been given...Graeme Bartholomew at Moorbank circa 1966 or unknown in WA circa 1966.
I've been told the second photo is Lyle O'Brien at Barrabool on a fifties Montesa. The number 54 would back that.
Third photo is indeed Jim Scaysbrook at Amaroo Park 1975.
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Firko,
I've been told the second photo is Lyle O'Brien at Barrabool on a fifties Montesa. The number 54 would back that.
That was my first thought but I wasn't 100%
Got more?
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Number8 you are Garry. True? Brother David?
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Who am I, where am I
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Who am I,
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Steve Cramer
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Top Photo, is Clyde Tucker #50 the track is Mt Gambier at Mac Park or Heywood.
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That`s right, Anton and Dennis what track
#A and #49 .I dont think that that is Anton, its a cr250 .Anton didnt like them and only rode the cr125's .He chose Husky's for the bigger bikes.He also was a junior in 73.Rode open in 75 ansd ran #3 as long as I can remember.
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Sorry Albrid,
It's not Anton,Maniac is right,he rode a 75 Husky CR250 with the #3
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Anton tried a cr250 but I didnt think that he raced one.The wheel base was too long so he took up the offer from Athol Patterson to ride the GP Huskies which had a shorter wheelbase and suited him.In this picture the riding gear is wrong and the rider looks more solid build than Anton ever was, especially as he would have been around 15 at the time of this pic.
So any other guess's?
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Bring back the price money
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Bring back the price money
What a crack up! Processing the cheque would cost more these days. Great bunch of photos btw.
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Albrid
Thats Kaiser on a Suzuki this time,and is it Herd again on the Maico,
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#8, yes that is right. Kaiser, Herd.
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Where am l, or where is my Father
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Albrid,
Yea thats my Dad in Heat 3 he had a Green TS250 Suzuki with what they called there Race Kit,which went pretty well,he only raced it a few times i'm guessing about 1970/71 where's the program from,there a lot of familiar names there,I see KB171 gets in there as well,which one is you Albrid?
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For sure.........thats FBC ridding at the 2008 Tassie NAts ;D ;D
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Who AM I AND WHICH TRACK, THIS WILL TEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE Yes its your turely 1979 Kawasaki
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One of the Cogburn brothers? Newry?
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NO.
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David Allsop
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Alsop with one L not 2 Mark, Yes you are right.
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This is my little Maico that eats elsinore. and got third in the Australian Titles. My Son on board.
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Albrid,& KB keep them photos coming,
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Freaky - which FB you referring to? ;D
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Who am l, In the same year another rider was teaming up. Full sponsorship who was that rider
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Alsop with one l not 2 Mark, Yes you are right.
What about the track?
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Clive tucker ???Teaming up with peter gazzard ???
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no, not gazzard, it was yours truly.
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unknown rider, #500 This is a horse with no name.
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allbrid-3, this is great stuff, will PM you with my link, for comment
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Hi Everybody! ;)
Thought I would join in on the fun...Dave has been busy! OK! Who is this, where and what year?? Good luck!
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I was thinking, could the previous rider "500" on the Yz be Graeme Osborne??? ???
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I am guessing the UK,maybe Europe the late 60's and maybe it's Bickers?
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I reckon Dave Bickers too. At first I thought it may have been a Czech rider as they liked racing in flanno shirts but then I spotted the Union Jack on the breast plate.
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I've just done some suspension work for Dave Bickers grandson who moved here from the UK last year. He rides juniors on a CRF250 and seems to have a bit of natural talent. Apparently Dave still has the Greeves he won the world title on.
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#8 and (hi Firko!) yes its Bickers on a works CZ 360 (Note chrome down pipe and this one has a fibreglass tank) , I will give ya the date, 1967, but what track is he on?
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It is in the UK!
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Who am l, #33, #45 # 110 ,name the riders and name the track and year, see who will be right.
I will give you the answer soon. Lets see how knowledgeable you are.
Top left of pic is #94 Steven Cramer! And on the inside of #33 Ray is #181 Lancaster on an O'Brien Montesa 125 grey tank.
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(hi Firko!)
Howdy Jim.....Long time between drinks ;D. Good to know you're still up and at 'em. Still got a a CZ or two in the shed?
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Sadly Firko only pictures and memories! Oh and the Arthritis!! lol! You travelling ok mate?
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Anyone know who the two parrots are?, and where??
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#8 and (hi Firko!) yes its Bickers on a works CZ 360 (Note chrome down pipe and this one has a fibreglass tank) , I will give ya the date, 1967, but what track is he on?
Very much doubt it son, flannel shirt means it's odds-on to be Chris Horsfield. Never seen Dave Bickers in a flanno !
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Taken a while to get these scanned and posted so here we go.
I'll need some help with the foot notes. There is a story behind the photo's that i will post when i get a chance. All the locations will be Victoria.
Bahnsy
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Hi GD66.
I got this pic off the guy who was there, and took the photo as well! He says Bickers! Thats all I can go on....You may be right, anyone else want to comment? Cheers Jumbo
BTW. The track is Farleigh Castle and it's the British GP.
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Photo no 4. Bike 90 dad 650 tribsa ( reckons it put out 70hp on 'A'. he and his mates were/are mad tuners try anything)bike 49 Cled Davies, Greeves Cled is now the pres of the Vintage racing Motorcyclist Assoc. Fayne Isles is sitting behind Cled's Greeves. Photo 14 is looking back down the main straight at Ravenswood. Tha start gate now goes from the big tree behind the 4th riders head to the left side fence
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Great pics Bahnsy, Photo no 11 Pakenham, 13 Christmas Hills, 15 Campbelfeild, no 56 maybe a young Rex Wolfenden :-\
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Awesome pics, but a bit before my time! How's about this one. I want whats on the seat!
Who is he and what has he just done?
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Hi Everybody! ;)
Thought I would join in on the fun...Dave has been busy! OK! Who is this, where and what year?? Good luck!
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Dave Bickers after his Greeves days on a CZ
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#14 is Paul Freidricks .I'd say that he,d just won one of his 3 world titles.
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Who am l and where
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Hi Motomaniac, Your right, it is Freidrichs, it's at Farleigh Castle as well, and he's only just won the 1967 British GP! Look at the size of that trophy! Pretty casual pit area as well!
ps. You can see Bickers' works CZ in the background, they were team mates! Go figure!
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As to your picture a couple of pages back E74, is that Harren Dill and Goy Ray at Thumper Nats mid 90s, Cessnock maybe?
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Hi Jumbo, We need you man, comeback.
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Who am I, where am I
Number 4 is Barry Ward
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Jack or Wally Anskatis?
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The kid on the right with the jet black hair looking on is Darren Osborne, right behind him is Donnie Osborne, both sons of Allan Osborne. Both road Motocross later in life, Donnie going on to be Aussie champion in road racing. Barrabool once again.
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How to half the weight of your tank; cut off the front half ;) ;D.
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who am l, l am watching the racing on the fence line , never raced unit the vintage started. wearing sunclasses and a beanie
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I am loving thes pics. Just about all are way before me (71 model). 1 thing I have noticed that is realy sad is that club days these day are more serious than world titles were.
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More info from photo no 4. Bloke sitting behind the greeves with the ciggy is Les McEncroe, bloke standing next to dad with his arms folded is Jim Davies
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More info on photo no 4, kid leaning on the fence post could be Cled's son Brynn, and possibly in photo no 7 and this is out of left field mum thinks the bird leaning on the EH ute could be her and taken at Maryborough. The plot thickens
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I'm loving these photos too. It's just prior to my era but it's these bikes that inspired me to want to race MX (Scrambles then) Seeing that these photos are mostly Victorian I don't recognise anyone except my old friend Brian Clarke doing his semi naked skinny boy wheelie. ;D. If thats your mum leaning against the ute Tony it's an FB/EK. The old fella next to the EH is way too ugly to be your darling mum ;D.
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This pic was taken a Wallan at the Rahier meeting there, 15th of November 1975.
Who are these guys?
PS. I don't know either!
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This one is pretty easy, but it's a bloody good photo!
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Who are these dare devils
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I know we have had a pic of this guy. But here is another a little clearer. His name is Ohzeki Masanori. A wild rider from Japan, part of the Suzuki team at Wallan.
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Don't know #15 but the guys in white are Bert Neville and Dennis Parker. Interesting story about that chair they are riding. It is a 650 Yamaha powered Wasp, but Bert took it out to the largest big bore kit he could find, then cut the cam in half and made up his own electronic ignition. Rewelded the cam, changed some lobe angles, and had it firing as a single! The pistons on this engine both came up at the same time, one on overlap, so when all the work had been done it was firing on both cylinders at the same time. Vibrated like all get out! But pulled out of a corner like a train!
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very interesting jim, bert is a clever man, would like to see him back with us riding.
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do any off you young fellars remember a guy who raced a bultaco outfit his name was bob macdoner or sililar .in the early 70
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Albrid,
#15 on the Sidecare is Terry Graham,rider and the passenger is Mark Waller,V on the Bultaco is Vic Allan,The Maico rider is Per Klitland
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Paul,
Yes I remember him,he is still around riding Vintage Road Race solo's My Dad said he went to his 100th party not long back ;D
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Great picture of my old mate Per Klitland. I'm writing a lengthy piece on Per that's becoming so long I may as well turn it into a book. He's had a very interesting life. I wouldn't mind using the photo if it's available Dave?
Number 16 on the Montesa may well be Michel Coombes from France who came here a couple of times. He was extremely fast but got busted in a big cocaine import deal and did some serious gaol time in France, ending his career just as he was entering the GPs as a factory Montesa rider.
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number 8 ,that amazeing i remember all off those guys like it was yesterday the all you to hang around a old golden fleece sevice station in east doncaster owned by bluey clackson were i work pumping petrol when i was a kid .they all use to race anything that had wheels and a engine we would go to some kind off race meeting every weekend either be it scrambles, rally cross , speedway, romsey grass track ,brooklyn ,redline race way, wallan it was great times especialy hanging off the chair of bluey clarkson bsa 500 at 3am test session down the main road to see if it was running ok for the following day
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Paul,
I think I remember going to that servo with my Dad when I was a kid,Clarkson name rings a bell
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Mark l will need to talk to Jumbo. dav
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Albrid,
#15 on the Sidecare is Terry Graham,rider and the passenger is Mark Waller,V on the Bultaco is Vic Allan,The Maico rider is Per Klitland
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You are righ
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Mark l will need to talk to Jumbo. dav
Ooops...Sorry Dave, I thought you posted it. OK Jim, Can you send me a high resolution copy of the Per shot please mate?
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Mark, I have posted it, all these photo`s where given to me at the time by Jumbo, but he told me that they where not to be used by anyone to make money off them, and l respeced their wishes., l just posted them on this thread for all to enjoy. So l need to ask Jim, how he feels about them being in VMX.
CHEERS
DAVID
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Per Klitland on the Maico.
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Count the fins on that 400 Macio, THAT IS A GENUINE.
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Is Reply #260 Sylvain Geboers ? With Jaak van Velthoven in the pit pic ?
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Rodger De Costa
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Not all those shots are of Roger DeCoster, i see a few other riders there too like Bengt Aberg and Andre Vromans.
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There's,
Lots of Legends,I can see Ake Johnsson,Geboers,De Coster just to name a few,
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Russel Bergmeirer ? at wonthaggi or is it Outtrim?
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I have no idea who this Husky rider at Barrabool is. Over to you Dave and #8.
You've got to love the flash clothing and helmets worn by the dudes in KBs classic shot. I especially love the Greeves rider on the rights school jumper.
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This lucky Husqvarna owner is Bruce Kinnersley. Barrabool, 1970, when the "New" track had just opened. The old track was over the horizon in the background. Took me a while to research who he was!
BTW , Firko, where did you get this pic from? I think I know the guy who took the shot!
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Russel Bergmeirer ? at wonthaggi or is it Outtrim?
Track is Ravenswood.
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Yea,Ravenswood but thats not Russel,
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Hazarding a guess is it Tim as it has a 750 four motor? Russel rode 500ccms and 850 Weslakes, Russel and I raced VMX in Vic in 91/92 on a couple of 250 maicos I had till I moved to Mt Isa
NQ Rosco
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This is the site, the true era.
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so who is this then?
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they are the Robertson brothers on their sidecar
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Albrid,
#15 on the Sidecare is Terry Graham,rider and the passenger is Mark Waller,V on the Bultaco is Vic Allan,The Maico rider is Per Klitland
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You are righ
Hey there C grade 143/passenger welcome aboard ozvmx forum..hope to catch up some day. ;D
Awesome thread- fantastic photos-keep em com'n 8)
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I reckon in the middle (ish) row to the left of DeCoster is a very young Yank Mark Blackwell on the #61 bike
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Christmas Hills, Bernie Ryan
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Christmas Hills, Bernie Ryan
Too easy . Looks like #12 behind , that would be Jack & #23 behind him .Micheal Adcock?
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Christmas Hills, Bernie Ryan
Too easy . Looks like #12 behind , that would be Jack & #23 behind him .Micheal Adcock?
23 Ian Carrington?
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Burie Ryan, Very good
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This pic was taken a Wallan at the Rahier meeting there, 15th of November 1975.
Who are these guys?
PS. I don't know either!
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No 16 is Chris Kane
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Is 717 Doug Leech?
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is 171 our own KB171 8) ???
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is 171 our own KB171 8) ???
Not on a Yamaha I wouldn't think....... :o
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I was there. ;)
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I was there. ;)
please explain. it does look like you Motomaniac.
is 171 our own KB171 8) ???
Not on a Yamaha I wouldn't think....... :o
you never know Rossenheimer
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#171 Kevin Brown. Diamond Valley. Gotcha!
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Same # but it aint me. Would't mind a 400 though ;)
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Damn!
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I was there. ;)
please explain. it does look like you Motomaniac.
Not racing Hoony .Come on Im not that old. I was watching.I mainly went to see Anton Alers race - Oh and Gaston Rahier of course.
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Gee those square front number boards you Aussies ran are butt ugly!!, What where they- a 5 gallon icecream container lid?. Deffinatly not 8)
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Gee those square front number boards you Aussies ran are butt ugly!!,
Thems was the rules that had to be adhered too.
Note also the distinct lack of fancy numbers
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Is it one of the Floods?
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no not floods
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I don't know the rider but the bike is that stylish powerhouse, the MX250 ;D. Nice pixie 8).
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The rider is Barry Ward.
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Who knows who & where.
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Where = Moorebank? My guess ;D.
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Wouldn't have a clue, though the colours on rider 1 appear to be from the old Villawood club (Sydney?). Some riders from that club visited Mackay in 69 to race in Mackay, so that may be where the photo originated.
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I am loving thes pics. Just about all are way before me (71 model). 1 thing I have noticed that is realy sad is that club days these day are more serious than world titles were.
Im in the same boat mate, love the old photos, everyone just oozes fun!
I look at dads photos and just wish we were in that era where you didn't need to refinance your parents home, sell off your investments and have a motor home just to go racing and look the part ::)
I do love the modern racing and go to the Aussie titles when they hit town to support the sport,see the big boys and to see how the local lads stack up, but cant handle the bull shit that goes with some of the younger blokes that seem to be more worried about what they look like than what they perform like..
Just my opinion.
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Hey guys these pics are so fantastic to look at, they take me back like it was yesterday, please keep them coming. I started racing in 1974 in sub-juniors on a TM125 in Frankston club, I am an A grade Superbike racer now on a GSXR1000, god I wish I could go back in time, this all brings a tear to my eye.
Regards, John Orchard
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Did Per Kitland always ride Maicos or was it just an Aussie loan bike ??
cheers A
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He mainly rode maico`s, but in 1976 he rode Yamaha OW 400
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I seen him blitz the field on a CCM-around 73-74' at Dungog nsw, never forget it, it was unreal, big crossed up mono's up the staircase ;)
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This pic was taken a Wallan at the Rahier meeting there, 15th of November 1975.
Who are these guys?
PS. I don't know either!
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No 16 is Chris Kane
NO #171 is Kevin Brennan, used to go to all the races with his grandfather !
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He mainly rode maico`s, but in 1976 he rode Yamaha OW 400
Its Per Klitland but I think the OW was in 75.
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This pic was taken a Wallan at the Rahier meeting there, 15th of November 1975.
Who are these guys?
PS. I don't know either!
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#717 was Doug Leech from memory
No 16 is Chris Kane
NO #171 is Kevin Brennan, used to go to all the races with his grandfather !
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Caston Rahier on this works 125, up against 400cc
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Caston Rahier on this works 125, up against 400cc
Steve Cramer , Vic Allen ,Ivan Miller,Rahier, Klitland ,G Flood,Adams , B is Italian guy? and Robin Bailey
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Wish the Qvmx club would look at these photos and understand these old bikes can do jumps and survive. They had to race on mx tracks back in the day, should stay that way I reckon. But that's just my opinion :o
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
You got it right in the last line.. a lot of VMX'ers were never motocross riders and don't really know what a motocross track is or was like in the day and they bitch as soon as a track has some bumps or a jump or 2 on it.
I'd be quite happy to see the tracks have a few more jumps and bumps.
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Didn't know about jumps and bumps eh? Some of you modern softies with half a metre of suspension have missed the REAL motocross tuff guy days at places like Moorebank where gutsie riders hurtled 'round a REAL motocross track with heavy bikes with minimum suspension were often seen to be ridden to destruction. Not just blown up motors, gearboxes or bent-up steel wheels but broken frames. cheers pancho
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Didn't know about jumps and bumps eh? Some of you modern softies with half a metre of suspension have missed the REAL motocross tuff guy days at places like Moorebank where gutsie riders hurtled 'round a REAL motocross track with heavy bikes with minimum suspension were often seen to be ridden to destruction. Not just blown up motors, gearboxes or bent-up steel wheels but broken frames. cheers pancho
I admire the guys who rode those bikes on tracks as rough as a modern day mx track. Some of the old footage i've seen is amazing.
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
Hey Brad , speaking for the Banana state? because its not like that down here. We go plenty a jumps and look forward to the ocassional natural terrain track for a change. :)
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
You got it right in the last line.. a lot of VMX'ers were never motocross riders and don't really know what a motocross track is or was like in the day and they bitch as soon as a track has some bumps or a jump or 2 on it.
You may be right, but I think a lot of guys (like myself) also fall into the category of not riding much these days and so are uncomfortable with huge jumps.
The jump above at Wallan as I recall was near the end of the start straight (something that’s not allowed these days to help save the soft younguns) and was a long low jump, which would send you out a long way, but not up very high.
Modern jumps are the opposite, shorter and steeper, they send you up high but not out very far making for harder landings.
I have a liking myself for natural terrain tracks as they are usually for fun to ride and don’t mind jumps that are long and low.
Modern type tracks with their steep style jumps don’t do anything for me these days but I can understand how someone that rides a lot wouldn’t mind them.
It’s not the jumps that scare me, it’s the landings :o
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you guys who race for sheep sations should go and ride your "hard" mx tracks - they are around - and just stop whinging about the others (whom I think might surprise you by filling the majority) who like to have some fun and still go to work on Monday. Geez - this has to go on an on doesn't it?
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you guys who race for sheep sations should go and ride your "hard" mx tracks - they are around - and just stop whinging about the others (whom I think might surprise you by filling the majority) who like to have some fun and still go to work on Monday. Geez - this has to go on an on doesn't it?
Who said we race for sheep stations? I'm saying we ride tracks with no jumps or bumps and if anything a larger amount of people go flatout because the tracks are so easy.
At the end of the day we're all in it for the fun. and have to work on monday :)
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
You got it right in the last line.. a lot of VMX'ers were never motocross riders and don't really know what a motocross track is or was like in the day and they bitch as soon as a track has some bumps or a jump or 2 on it.
You may be right, but I think a lot of guys (like myself) also fall into the category of not riding much these days and so are uncomfortable with huge jumps.
The jump above at Wallan as I recall was near the end of the start straight (something that’s not allowed these days to help save the soft younguns) and was a long low jump, which would send you out a long way, but not up very high.
Modern jumps are the opposite, shorter and steeper, they send you up high but not out very far making for harder landings.
I have a liking myself for natural terrain tracks as they are usually for fun to ride and don’t mind jumps that are long and low.
Modern type tracks with their steep style jumps don’t do anything for me these days but I can understand how someone that rides a lot wouldn’t mind them.
It’s not the jumps that scare me, it’s the landings :o
A few well placed ski jumps would be fine geoff.. i don't like big jumps either and nor do old bikes.
As soon as someone says Jumps people on here automatically think steep upramps and doubles..Why??
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As soon as someone says Jumps people on here automatically think steep upramps and doubles..Why??
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Perhaps cause its all we see marketed and the association with MX now days.!
Most of OZMX venues have the bigger jumps.
Its genaration,.ie every older rider 45+ loves a golf course.!!
Just dont mention sand :-X ;) ;D
cheers A
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I like tracks that are natural terrain and undulation, man made jumps are dangerous when chopped out, motocross started on natural terrain in the 50`s,60`s,70`s some where ok, but we where younger then, I enjoy a safe natural fast flowing track. Not these 1st and 2nd gear straights and short tight tracks.
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Two of the jumps at good old Moorebank which would really startle modern riders as much or more than the old days were 'sorbent hill', a vertical drop of about 3-4 M which had to be approached at a sharp angle and a continued turn on the descent, the other was Fishers leap. It would be great to see action at that place again! If one didn't make the sharp right turn on landing from that one the swamp from the sewage plant waited! been there done that!!!
cheers pancho.
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Just remembered, I have some excellent pics from there, some of which were featured in OZ bike. One day I will figure out the scanner and posting process.
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you guys who race for sheep sations should go and ride your "hard" mx tracks - they are around - and just stop whinging about the others (whom I think might surprise you by filling the majority) who like to have some fun and still go to work on Monday. Geez - this has to go on an on doesn't it?
Who said we race for sheep stations? I'm saying we ride tracks with no jumps or bumps and if anything a larger amount of people go flatout because the tracks are so easy.
At the end of the day we're all in it for the fun. and have to work on monday :)
I second that
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I remember those names from Moorebank Wally, great nostalgia.
Was "Sorbent" hill named after the toilet paper?
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Problem always is the fact that the guys that peddled these around back then are now between 50 and 60 years old. The old bodies can't take it. Also the fact that the tracks are on paddocks so there are no man made obstacles. I also think that a majority of vmxer's weren't racers back in the day. They were more the trail riders and don't like jumps.
Hey Brad , speaking for the Banana state? because its not like that down here. We go plenty a jumps and look forward to the ocassional natural terrain track for a change. :)
Yes I was Brent as I replied to the post regarding QVMX. Sounds like Victoria is more my scene as that appeals to me.
Perfect scenario for me would be a track with vintage friendly jumps. I would like to see tabletops with a stepped down ramp, so you can still jump a pre 75 to the shorter landing and the later bikes can jump to the further landing. Know what I mean? Maybe I will have to take on the role and implement something like that. Problem always is that no matter what you do, some won't like the change. ::)
Hey John. Sounds like Greg who owns the Harrisville track has got it going on. Sounds like it is a great track and (almost) everybody is raving about it. Even some of the spectators!
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Wish the Qvmx club would look at these photos and understand these old bikes can do jumps and survive. They had to race on mx tracks back in the day, should stay that way I reckon. But that's just my opinion :o
get along to the Classic, Conondale would have to be one of the best natural terrain tracks in Aust, used by the QVMX.
otherwise , toughen up princess's, because there's a bloody jump dose not mean you have to jump the fringin thing
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Sorbent hill!! it sure was named after toilet paper slidze. the first time you rode to the top and looked for the track your reaction was 'O $H1t!'
If you safely negotiated that and the rest of the track 'round to the other side and over Fishers leap, if you didn't make the right hander as soon as you landed, you realy did end up in the s*** at the swamp which drained the sewage works! I stupidly rode a rigid T100 there once, managed to keep upright in the stinking mud, but got off and the bike didn't fall over!
cheers pancho. [I'd love to see some of the old ABC Sports Cavalcade shots of Moorebank one day]
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Hey Wally, there is a photo of the crowd at Sorbent Hill from the 60's in the latest Ed of Scaysies mag.
You might be there.
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Anton used 3 as a race number from what i remember on 125 elsinore, was real quick.
KB
That is the way I remember Anton as well,
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Sadly Antons race career ended after a bad prang at Christmas Hills in the 1977 Grand National,
I grew up in Mornington Victoria same as Anton who was 3 or 4 years older than me (I think). Of course at that age when you're 13 or 14 a 17/18 year old seems a big difference.
Anton was our hero in the town which was rather small and quiet back then compared to todays "YuppyVille" and his father, Kaise, owned Aler's Honda (cars) in the middle of town with the bike shop he also owned down next to the railway line 500 meters away.
Anton was a wonderful guy who always spoke to us 'kids' in the shop when he was there and on occasion appeared at the Mornington Mini Bike club.
He was very, very good as some of you know and it was a shock for the whole town to hear about his crash and subsequent loss of his leg that nearly killed him, I must have been around 16 by then.
Apparently he crashed quite heavily causing a compound fracture to his leg that for some reason was not taken seriously for some time (maybe hidden under his boot?) and ambulance was slow to arrive and by the time he was taken to hospital gangrene had set in and he underwent more than one operation first to try and save his leg then to try to beat the gangrene and that process was what almost took his life. This is what we all heard but not from Anton himself.
I only ever met him a few times after that and saw him competing in a Honda Civic in a rally sometime later that had a bike clutch lever adapted to the gearshift and to this day wondered how he got on with his life and things.
Anyway if you're around Anton, thanks for some inspiration and just being so nice to us as kids and say g'day to Chook :-)
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Anton was our hero in the town which was rather small and quiet back then compared to todays "YuppyVille" and his father, Kaise, owned Aler's Honda (cars) in the middle of town with the bike shop he also owned down next to the railway line 500 meters away.
Anton was a wonderful guy who always spoke to us 'kids' in the shop when he was there and on occasion appeared at the Mornington Mini Bike club
Anyway if you're around Anton, thanks for some inspiration and just being so nice to us as kids and say g'day to Chook :-)
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It spelt "Kees".I'm pretty sure Kees was already out of the cars and retired (he sold it to David Archer) when he bought the old grain store and set up a bike shop.Or at least he was setting up to retire when they set up shop after Anton returned from Europe and what a great shop it was .They dont make them like that anymore and Kees was some guy , alot of fun. Anton has been on the forum bytheway.Chook if you mean Paul is on a trip arond OZ.
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Anton has been on the forum bytheway..
and Facebook --- beware of what you say about others 8)
cheers A
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Anton has been on the forum bytheway..
and Facebook --- beware of what you say about others 8)
cheers A
na he's not on FaceBook . but yer good advice
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This pic was taken a Wallan at the Rahier meeting there, 15th of November 1975.
Who are these guys?
PS. I don't know either!
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No 16 is Chris Kane
NO #171 is Kevin Brennan, used to go to all the races with his grandfather !
I recently bought Kevin's bike, he now lives in Brisbane and would be happy to hear from some of his old racing mates.
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