number 8 ,that amazeing i remember all off those guys like it was yesterday the all you to hang around a old golden fleece sevice station in east doncaster owned by bluey clackson were i work pumping petrol when i was a kid .they all use to race anything that had wheels and a engine we would go to some kind off race meeting every weekend either be it scrambles, rally cross , speedway, romsey grass track ,brooklyn ,redline race way, wallan it was great times especialy hanging off the chair of bluey clarkson bsa 500 at 3am test session down the main road to see if it was running ok for the following day