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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: 35elsinore on July 11, 2014, 09:23:25 pm
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We all have locals that we look up to and admire for many reasons [living legends].
Tomorrow the SA 24 hour road trial begins and from Whyalla SA on a 1961 A10 BSA, Malcolm Rasmus and Rob Luxton are lining up for an adventure not many would contemplate.
The sidecar that Mal's dad road to 24hr trial victory in 68 and 69 is venturing out again with these two [slightly crazy in my eyes] boys at heart to test man and machine.
No stranger to a sidecar, Mal and Rob themselves have won the 24hr trial in 92 and 93 aboard an XR600.
Wishing them the best of luck and look forward to seeing them finish.
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I'll be in trouble for this post so I hope you enjoy it
Cheers Troy
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That's keen.
I've seen a photo of a course marker arrow - the top of it is about three inches out of the water... Not the ideal conditions for anything with British electrics, you'd think.
Hope they make it! :)
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Im hearing you Nathan, two things that hopefully will over come this is they both know there way around a bike as good as anyone and are as stubborn as they come.
So if anyone could achieve this mighty feat, its these two.
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"Most people that participate in sidecar events are not weirdos"
Let me please reword the above crude statement, which is subtle in suggesting that some of us are frothy mouthed, raving lunatics.
"Some people that participate in sidecar events are not weirdos"
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Geez Troy, the Whyalla lurker didn't tell me he was doing that, I always new he had a screw loose. Good luck to them both. Do you think you could go in his shed and get a few parts for me?....LOL.
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Bloody hell, what an amazing effort. I too hope they finish, I take my hat off to the side car guys at the best of time, let alone at the 24hr. I rode the 24hr once, in 95 on a KTM 300, and I remember on the last lap in the morning, coming across a sidecar that had managed to get through the previous day, the night and most of the last lap only to have the chair wheel break off with only about 70km to go... poor buggers were still trying to make it home by riding it sort of on an angle, an awesome effort. I never did find out who they were or if they finished or not. The 24 ranks right up there in my opinion as one of the toughest, but most enjoyable rides I have done, and the effort everybody in S.A. (the clubs, organisers, riders, support crews, landowners etc) puts in for it is amazing.
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"The 24 ranks right up there in my opinion as one of the toughest, but most enjoyable rides I have done, and the effort everybody in S.A. (the clubs, organisers, riders, support crews, landowners etc) puts in for it is amazing."
Except it's in Sth Aust in the middle of bloody winter.
Their effort will be extraordinary in anybodies estimation I think.
Ronny Chadwick rode a similar ex-24HR Trial outfit at the Classic Motocross Nats up here a yr or 2 ago and it was flat out making it up the hill :o
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Im hearing you Nathan, two things that hopefully will over come this is they both know there way around a bike as good as anyone and are as stubborn as they come.
So if anyone could achieve this mighty feat, its these two.
My mate (who is competing on a modern sidecar), said almost exactly the same thing (like almost word-for-word).
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tough Gig that one... :o hope they don't get bogged, it must weigh half a ton, my back hurt just looking at it. hope they make it, it would be an epic ride im sure. ;)
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wow love the sticker on the tank - veteran and vintage mcc Kadina , that's where I live , that club is still going and my father who has ridden many 24hr trials ,and won in 1980 , is still a member of that club, he is 70 now
just for a bit of history , my father is the only one to have finished a 24hr on a 125 sidecar , has tried once in late 70 to do it in a cz 125 sidecar but didn't finish . tried again mid 80's on a Suzuki ts 125 sidecar and finished
have a uncle that has about 40 starts in the 24hr !
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all the best BSA Pilot and Navi, after Crystal Brook I am deeply concerned, but if anyone can do it it's Mal and Rob Im sure they will tractor on through, see ya at the Morgan Club control ;)
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"Most people that participate in sidecar events are not weirdos"
Let me please reword the above crude statement, which is subtle in suggesting that some of us are frothy mouthed, raving lunatics.
"Some people that participate in sidecar events are not weirdos"
LOL glad ya cleared that up Tim ;) :) :D ;D
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Yes, good luck guys-you're heroes
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Yes, good luck guys-you're heroes
and legends in the makeing, the stuff of folk law ;)
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I went and saw them at the start at Kapunda then went to section 3 to watch but sadly they did not make it that far. I dont know what put them out though.
Was also expecting to see an old KDX200 getting around. What happened Nathan, did you start?
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Bugger, I was hoping they would get through.
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BSA was intact, just stopped.
I scratched the KDX due to not being confident enough with the lights.
Rode the WR200/YZ200WR instead. It's fantastic, right up to the point where I buried it in the Bog From Hell, and killed the clutch.
It actually went suddenly and dramatically, so I'm wondering if it has failed catastrophically rather than simply burned out.
Not that it matters right now....
Second section of the second lap, FWIW.
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Right so i would have seen you then. I heard a little twoey right at the spot where you were in the field but was looking for a green one. I have heard of people breaking clutch plates in half to get things working again as a bush repair job.
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Want a lend of a Gerni Nathan? that's some serious mud you got happening.
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Yeah, it's gonna be awesome once the mud has set... :o
A lot of fallen off, but the bike still has at least 20kg of mud on it.
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that's a bummer Nathan but that's racing I guess.
be interested to see whats killed it.....if you ever manage to find the rest of the bike again ;D
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The BSA sadly didn't get to far, ground clearance was a major issue and it seems they don't make clutch's like they used to. Mal was still very happy even though it wasn't a success. The bike got a lot of interest before the flag dropped and they are enjoying a different side of the event.
Those bog holes are nasty Nathan, they gobble up many a rider and bike.
All the riders that have made it through the night, good luck for your last lap.
Safe travels home Nathan and start prep for next year.
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Thanks guys.
I won't be back next year - the event takes up too much of my time and too many brownie points, so I think it will become an every-second-year event. This event cost me Harrow and the Classic MX Nats... I wasn't going to enter this year, but the idea of taking the KDX to the Nationals, the 24 and the Four Day sucked me in.
By the time I realised I the KDX was a no-go, I was already well committed to the event.
2016 on the KDX is the current plan.... And I will start preparing for it now! ;D
The TT500 looked to be going well when I saw it. It looked good on the video too.
The DR400, the XT250K and the KLR sidecar were out early, which I think left the TT as the only class M (Pre-90) bike running.
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Beeza fried the clutch in section 1 from reports.
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It sounds like the BSA was a victim of a number of small-medium dramas combined.
Last I heard, there were 116 DNFs, and that was before the end of the event. About 170 starters.
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Nathan, how are you and Relfy's 4 Day preps going?
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I'm good. Haven't spoken to Relfy for a couple of weeks now, but he was unfazed last time I asked.
I got the new piston and rebuilt crank for the new motor today. Barrel goes off for replating on Wednesday. Ironically, the need for the new motor is reduced since the existing one has 24 hours less on it.
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that's hilarious, aint it always the way ;D at least you didn't spend an hour testing electrics only to find the rag left in the carb throat was sucked into the carb!! (yep fell for that old chestnut ...don't use black socks in the throat as they are hard to see when fitting the filter)
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Paul Hargans' photo:
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This is the only action photo I've found of myself, so I'll be that guy...
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great pic too, put it up on the wall
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Don't know if anyone cares, but I had a look at my clutch today.
About half the plates are fine. The other half have had the friction material ripped from them - the previous toasted clutches I've seen have simply burned the friction material - they wore pretty much evenly and the gearbox oil turned into a black paste. Mine had big black chunks of clutch material through the oil.
The smell is weird - its got that sort of pleasant smell of a bonfire, but it also smells like someone has put a plastic bag on the bonfire... Not the usual burnt clutch smell.
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Don't know if anyone cares, but I had a look at my clutch today.
About half the plates are fine. The other half have had the friction material ripped from them - the previous toasted clutches I've seen have simply burned the friction material - they wore pretty much evenly and the gearbox oil turned into a black paste. Mine had big black chunks of clutch material through the oil.
The smell is weird - its got that sort of pleasant smell of a bonfire, but it also smells like someone has put a plastic bag on the bonfire... Not the usual burnt clutch smell.
do you think it was a case of a dud batch of plates or the toture they went through ???
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sounds like the bonding material has let go, fried clutches usually have smooth faces on the plates..bummer, check for warranty :D ;D ;)