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Clubroom => Vinduro => Topic started by: relfy on February 04, 2014, 12:43:22 pm
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Hi would anybody be interested in having a crack at the Aussie 4 day on a pre 90 bike to raise both funds and awareness for mens depression (Beyond Blue or The Black Dog Institute) see post in General Discussion ??? we would need riders to commit as people are prepared to donate $ so it cannot be pie in the sky and not follow thru with it. please check post as above and give us your thoughts. Relfy
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Obviously each year is different, but based on my experience in 2012, and the experience of some other mates in recent years, the event is not the killer that it once was. The Special Tests are surprisingly easy - the (relatively) difficult stuff is reserved for the trail.
The need to stay on time is likely to be the biggest issue for the punter. Most of the event I had no trouble staying on time, but there was one section where everyone (including most of the pros) got caught out and virtually everyone used late time.
I lost a fair bit of late time on day 3 - one little creek crossing cost me a few minutes, another big bog hole cost me a lot more time... When I wasted another five on a big hill, it was more than a little worried about houring out if I lost any more...
There are no vintage classes - they run E1, E2 & E3 capacity classes, Vets (old blokes) and Masters (really old blokes). And a Women's class.
Anyone reading this would probably enter Vets or Masters, as appropriate. You'll get smashed by the likes of Damien Smith, Kirk Hutton and Geoff Ballard, but there will be a lot more club level riders among the old blokes' classes. This is particularly important for the final moto on Day 4, because that way you won't come last in front of everyone! :D
99% of bikes will be new or less than two years old. Normally you'd be lucky to see a single bike that's older than five years - there is no doubt that the old bikes will be very well noticed.
Mousses are virtually essential. Not just for the time saved, but also the amount of crap you don't have to cart around with you. I did the whole event on one pair of tyres, and even the rear could have done it all again... I was deliberately careful to look after it, because my mousse/tyre changing skills are questionable. In hindsight, I could/should have ridden much harder and not worried about it.
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Neither rego or a compliance plate is needed.
You do need an Unregistered Vehicle Permit, and working head- tail- and brake-lights, though.
I'm not sure what's involved in obtaining a NSW permit for a race bike, but for a rally car it is a matter of going to an RTA office, filling out the forms and paying a small amount of money. Lately they've been asking for a copy of the Supp Regs to prove that the event is actually happening (and is not simply a figment of your imagination).
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I think it's a great idea,so it needs someone to grab it by the throat and run with it.
A great cause so once set up I'm in for $100.
I think a lot of guys would love to be involved in such an event and cause but are too old, unfit or whatever to tackle such an event as the 4 Day.
With this in view I'd be prepared to run a fundraiser at the Panpac Games Vinduro (and Enduro) on the Gold Coast on 1&2 Nov.
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It's amazing how this thread failed to fly... :-\
Relfy, I'm in: '88 KX125.
Part of the reason I bought the bike in the first place was because of the article in ADB of a BTX-KX125 enduro bike - seems silly to never do an enduro on it.
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Great work Nathan your a champ anyone else want to have a go ??? its for a great cause if not its you and I .thanks again Relfy
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I am going to purchase and build a bike I was thinking a 1987 -88 KDX 200 does anyone have some thoughts of a bike that would be a good mount to try and complete for days as comfortable as it can be on a bike that's pre 90 ???
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We have been given the ok to run a fundraiser for Beyond Blue at the PanPacific Masters, so have got the ball rolling up here.
Date Nov 1st & 2nd
Venue Gold Coast near Dreamworld
Camping on site and motel accommodation nearby.
Classes Classic, Pre'78 and Post Classic Pre90.
Two rider teams riding 2-3 hours Sat and Sunday mornings
Age groupings 30-39, 40-49, 50-59, 60-69, 70+
Also an Enduro in the afternoons, same age groupings.
Lights not required.
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Relfy and Nathan, I have now got the official letter of approval from Beyond Blue as an approved fund raiser at the Masters.
I suggest we co-ordinate our efforts. Could you ring or Email me 0459122090 [email protected]
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Please see new topic RIDERS AGAINST DEPRESSION in the General Discussion section
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It's amazing how this thread failed to fly... :-\
Relfy, I'm in: '88 KX125.
Part of the reason I bought the bike in the first place was because of the article in ADB of a BTX-KX125 enduro bike - seems silly to never do an enduro on it.
Nathan I enduro and cross country a 89 KX 125 and it was a great bike , momentum is king slowdown for nothing.
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I won't whore up the riders against depression thread, so here's the start of my bike prep....
I spent a lot of time thinking about what I wanted to ride. My dearly loved 88 KX125 was the obvious choice from an emotional point of view, and wasn't a ridiculous choice on logical criteria, but I kept thinking about how horrible it would be on drit road/tar transports, and abot how I'd put five seasons of VMXing onto an above-average, fairly original bike by doing the 4-day on it.
More thinking lead me to decide that I wanted to ride an 89 KDX200 or 89 YZ250WR, with a KTM250/300, Husky 250/400 or RMX250 being outside choices.
After spending LOTS of time on Gumtree and Ebay, and finding nothing, I bought back my old, rough 1990 KDX200E that I bought on a whim a few years ago. I sold it to a mate to use as a paddock bike, but even though the power valve was jammed shut, he thoguht it was "too fast" and hardly ever rode it....
I never remember to take "before" photos, so here it is after I'd taken the motor out:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2454_zpsa4b59a18.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2452_zpsf136b6d1.jpg)
Sexy, yes?... :P
I pulled it down, and then started to add up what it was going to cost to get it up to speed....
Then three much better sounding bikes all came up for sale. Yesterday, I drove three hours to Bombala and bought one with a properly rebuilt motor and a pretty good parts bike:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2466_zpsb472d6b0.jpg)
The runner is another 1990 model, but the parts bike is a 1989 one. The plan is to get the mechanicals right in the 1990 frame, and then give the 1989 roller a cosmetic rebuild and transfer everything over.
Here's how it sits tonight:
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2483_zps986b08ed.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2485_zps04e07863.jpg)
I haven't done anything major yet: Swapped the bent bars for some straight ones, fitted a Yamaha (IT200?) top triple clamp to move the handle bars forward, fitted the FMF Powercore silencer from the original bike, and a few other tweaks.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2489_zps26c01ef8.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2490_zps25458072.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2494_zpsdd2c0925.jpg)
Next is to fit a set of 88 KX forks and an 89 KX shock. Just waiting for the new springs, Gold Valves and seals/bushes to arrive so I can rebuild the KX suspension bits.
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Good one. great project and goal.
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If anyone wants a poster, just PM me your email address. then you can print a few and spread them around
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id love to have a crack on the 400...would be a great experience! will watch and ponder. the 200 is great choice
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So does that mean you will be joining both Nathan and I as the more the merrier and after all there is no pressure , we are there as a team if we finish that in itself is a great achievement
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a whole lot of stars planets and money will need to align before I could commit.
its one event ive never done and this looks like the best opp I could get but trying to build a house this year (subject to the planning gods) so not working is stretching the savings etc etc.
if some work pops up and time is available running up to and for the event im half interested.
the bike will be up to it, tyres and spares would be an issue but that $$ will fix those things.
so I will hang on the outside of this thread and see how it goes... I'm saving hard to make it to the Hopetoun desert ride as this years highlight.
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Great idea, Relfy. I like the motivation behind the fundraising too (I'm a black dog owner).
I'd LOVE to have another crack, but like last year, time and work commitments rule me out. I've done 4 previously and the added challenge of finishing on a Vinduro is getting me revved up. I'll keep my nomination in abeyance until next year.
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Don't forget for the time, skill, fitness, finance poor there is the Masters on the Gold Coast in November.
If you cant do either you can donate by supporting Relfi, or direct to Everydayhero. Check out the "Riders Against Depression" topic for details.
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Doesn't look much different, does it?
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2577_zpsb5160bf7.jpg)
There's actually been a lot of time on it since the last lot of dribble.
The FMF pipe came from young Dougie P - brand new and at a good price. Thanks Dougie! Can't believe how much better it is - there don't seem to be any drawbacks to it apart from the extra noise - stronger botom end, stronger midrange, and at least as good in the top end. Throttle response is WAY better. Power delivery is just as smooth and electric as it was.
BarkBusters were removed in anticipation of the PCMXNs. Standard Yamaha (TTR?) handguards fit straight on, and even match the inexplicable Yamaha sticker on the radiator shroud... ;D
Forks have been swapped to 88 KX250 items. Apart from the much better cartridge design, they also have much stiffer springs - the KX250's 0.37 springs are too soft for me, but they're miles better than the KDX's original 0.29s... I've got a pair of 0.46 springs and Gold Valves to go in.
Rear spring has been swapped to a 5.2 from an 89 KX250 (up from a 4.7), according to the recommendation from the RaceTech website. The sags all say that it is correct. I've rebuilt the shock out of the parts bike, and firmed up both compression and rebound stacks, using an educated guess. Haven't fitted it yet. I am willing/expecting to have a couple of goes at the valving, if needed.
Swapped the swing arm too - the bearings in the original had no movement at static height, but the wheel could move ~20mm side to side at full droop!
Hopefully it hasn't rained as much in Canberra as it has here, and I'll have the chance to try it out at the Heaven practice day on Saturday. I'm hanging for the chance to ride it properly - it really feels fantastic around my backyard (if that means anything...). Way beyond my expectations. :)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_2578_zps35619b7b.jpg)
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Looks FANTASTIC well done mate
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going to do a pipe guard for it? be shame to slam that shiny blinged pipe! 8)
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Steve and Nath. I think I have another Heaven member to join you guys. Either on a 87 Husky 430 or a IT 250 ( come on relfy....how much ) ;D
Will call you tonight Steve
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Excellent! :)
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B1 and B2 are ready gun support team (can of wd and plug spanner), and i heard 'the chef' is coming to to look after you's ;)
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Branchy, sounds good will have to give the "chef" a pressure test at my place when B1 and B2 come for a Camping/Ride weekend before Gloucester event . Maybe the Gloucester event would be a good time to get some firm commitments from the people that would like to be involved so we can hatch a plan as that would only be a bit over 3 months out from the event so if anybody is interested in being part of the VMX Aussie 4 day team let us know so we can get some organisation happening . regards Relfy
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I'm in!
:D
Seriously, I rode the KDX again today. I am now hanging for the A4DE - the bike is fantastic.
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Nath, Does my mates bike have to have a working headlight and taillight?
He's keen.
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Nathan as you did the 4 day last year and I am still a 4 day virgin could you give us an indication as to what would be of best value to the team, and what the necessities are so we have some idea of what is required and how to approach it .Also Viewers keep in mind it would be great if we could have a VMX stand included with the team and a few Restored Bikes on display to help promote the VMX movement and or Club pending what peoples thoughts are.
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Ted, you need a working head light, tail light and brake light (either brake). Supp Regs may require horn/bell and/or mirror(s).
They get checked at scrutiny, and can be checked at any time during the event, but that's all. A battery tucked into the airbox may be enough to meet the requirements... ;)
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Nathan as you did the 4 day last year and I am still a 4 day virgin could you give us an indication as to what would be of best value to the team, and what the necessities are so we have some idea of what is required and how to approach it .Also Viewers keep in mind it would be great if we could have a VMX stand included with the team and a few Restored Bikes on display to help promote the VMX movement and or Club pending what peoples thoughts are.
Buggered if I know! :)
Seriously, I'm sure I'll miss lots, but here's what springs to mind:
1. The items that are marked (frame, hubs, cases, muffler) cannot be replaced. If they break, you're screwed.
2. You get 25minutes/day to work on the bike (can't recall if it is 10 in the morning and 15 in the afternoon, or vice versa). In the work periods, you can replace unmarked parts and use any tools.
If you've got a big problem, you can put the bike into Parc Ferme while it is incomplete/inoperable, and finish it the next morning.
You can take longer, up to the limit of houring out and at the expense of time penalties.
3. During the days, you can work on the bike whenever you get to controls early, using tools and parts you carry with you. You'll usually get to the final control early, and have to sit there for 10+ minutes. If you've got a problem, it gives you time to organise tools and loosen/remove as much as you possibly can, before going into the final work period.
4. Any helpers you have are restricted in what they can do to the bike. The basic rule is that they cannot touch the bike, but can add fluid/lube to it.
The rules are not as clear as they could be - late on Day 3, we got into trouble for one of my helpers spraying chain lube onto the chain while I spun the rear wheel, even though we were specifically told that it was OK...
5. Despite all of the above, Helpers are still very, very useful. Organisation, filling oil/fuel/drink/snacks, handing tools over, and another brain/set of eyes are all very valuable when the pressure is on.
I had help from The Wife and a good mate (who is a fellow rally and dirt bike tragic) - we all communicate well, without effort - and can forgive any flared tempers in the heat of the moment... It might not sound important, but it is.
6. Having someone to check on you at every opportunity is a big mental boost - if you have only one helper, they probably wont make it to every possible (accessible) control - but one helper can help more than one rider.
At the very least, it's valuable for communication: "I'm going fine, but I will need to swap brake pads at the end of the day".
There were also times when you weren't allowed to receive any "equipment", but you incredibly found the parts or food you need just laying on the ground... ;) Kind of stupid, but that's the way the rules work.
7. You will find lots of vague bits in the rules. They are very serious about "don't ride your bike backwards in the service park", so I was pushing mine back to pick up the time card I'd forgotten - I got into trouble for that, but when I said "I'm not riding it", I got blank stares.
8. Be organised. Everything, everyone, all the time.
9. Expect curve balls, and to not have a freaking clue WTF is happening at least some of the time.
I took down my 20-litre jerry cans, and at rider's briefing we were informed that the Victorian DSE won't accept containers of more than 10-litres of fuel (and half-filling my 20-litre jerries wasn't acceptable). So we - along with another third of the competitors - then spent a couple of hours finding the last remaining 10-litre jerry cans in Warragul...
10. Jan. Jan is the grand poohbah of the Four Day. She's lovely, but I'm pretty sure that if you get on her bad side, you will be lucky to live to tell the tale... :)
I feel like I'm rambling. Lynn Braico has written a pretty good guide, that's floating around on the net - I think it can be found on the NSW Enduro website.
In 2012 they gave a specific briefing for novices. It was a big help, largely for putting my mind at ease - even if stuff was later contradicted (see #7).
In a perfect world, you'd have a cast of thousands looking after your every whim (within the limits of the rules) and an unlimited parts supply (also within the limits of the rules).
In practice, 3 riders and (say) three helpers that pooled their resources is FAR more useful than three helpers who look after one rider each.
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Great (as usual) post Nathan.
I'm riding a pre-2014 ;D in the 4 day, but I've got to say that KDX looks the goods!
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Steve and Nath. I think I have another Heaven member to join you guys. Either on a 87 Husky 430 or a IT 250 ( come on relfy....how much ) ;D
Will call you tonight Steve
Ol mate is having some new wheels built for the Husky and is in the process of getting his electrics up to speed. He's in boys.
The three amigos.
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Well done Ted will your man be at Gloucester ???? would like to catch up
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No He will be in Tassie Something about jogging backwards up Cradle Mtn backwards to prepare
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Entries are open: http://www.nswenduro.com.au/
If I'm not one of the first ten entries, I'll be disappointed.
Entries capped at 300. There were 230-odd in 2012, so I don't think 300 is a huge issue, but I got in ASAP to avoid dramas.
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I just entered and got receipt #37
I'm entered on a Husky WR300 in 'Masters' :)
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Just checked: Mine was #5. :)
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#51
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Spoke to third guy today. He has just returned from holidays. He's onto it.
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Great effort guys. If I came to the 4 Day, is there any way I could be of help.
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Good luck with the 4 day roost guys. It's a big effort.
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Thanks for the words of support what ever happens should be a heap of fun , hopefully we will complete the four days, that in itself would be an amazing effort I am lead to believe that a guy from the Oyster Bay Club is riding a 1983 IT 250 K in the 4 day as well.
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Finishing the 4 day is a great effort....getting up on day 3 is an effort in itself. A well prepared bike, having spare levers, tubes and an assortment of nuts and bolts that fit your bike is a must and carry them in your trail pack. Having something handy to munch on in your pack is good advice, as finding time to have a decent "lunch" will be hard pressed. A fresh rear tyre is good for day 3, especially if the terrain has nasty rock sections.
Oyster Bay is a very strong enduro club so any advice you can get from any of that crowd should be well heeded. Better still, set up near them, they usually have everything you could ever need.....
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Please dont forget this started as vehicle (with the PanPac Masters) to raise awareness and funds for depression.
Frankly the responce is very disappointing with only five donations to Riders Against Depression ( see this topic at the top of the General Discussion section)
On the positive side we raised a bit over $100 at Gloucester, and it was good to meet Relfy at last.
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Any updates on this project?
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Bump
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Sorry Col, I missed your post.
I've spent lots of money... Got new plastics, new pipe, rebuilt crank, new spokes, new mousses, blah blah. My local bike shop* owner's eyes light up when I walk in...
Just gotta put it all together now...
*Wright Motorcycles in Yass NSW. 02 62264188. The boss is an active VMX racer and vinduro rider. Highly recommended.
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Sorry Col, I missed your post.
I've spent lots of money... Got new plastics, new pipe, rebuilt crank, new spokes, new mousses, blah blah. My local bike shop* owner's eyes light up when I walk in...
Just gotta put it all together now...
*Wright Motorcycles in Yass NSW. 02 62264188. The boss is an active VMX racer and vinduro rider. Highly recommended.
I would definitely agree with you Nathan , his a top bloke to deal with
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https://www.facebook.com/events/1499375253629291/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/464909040311509/
http://a4de.com.au/riderlist.pdf
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Best Wish's to those entered and heading into the A4DE parc ferme ..whooop whoop
found this on facebook :)
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If anyone is interested...
The eagle eyes will spot a few missing bits, but they're all fixed now. There's a stack of new bits that haven't arrived yet >:( - I really wish the new headlight surround and "UniTrak" stickers were here, in particular.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_3658_zpscd208a91.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Bikestuff/KDX200E/IMG_3650_zpsfa2cceeb.jpg)
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Great looking bike Nathan, full credit to you!
Brett
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Very best of luck at the 4day Nathan hope you and Steve have a great run. Your bike looks excellent well done.
Last time I spoke to Steve he was getting close as well.
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nice job ;), will be an ideal steed for the task at hand...id get a better pipe guard I rekon....just seems to be hanging out in space looking for a stump.
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Yeah, I wanted to build one of those old-style cages to go around the pipe, but I left myself short of time...
The armadillo guard that's on it is mostly just for show - figured it was a 'period accessory', although they used to be much tougher than this one.
The old bike has an identical pipe on it, so I've got two chances before it becomes a real problem...
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Yeah, I wanted to build one of those old-style cages to go around the pipe, but I left myself short of time...
The armadillo guard that's on it is mostly just for show - figured it was a 'period accessory', although they used to be much tougher than this one.
The old bike has an identical pipe on it, so I've got two chances before it becomes a real problem...
Moose still do a guard in the same style that is of a decent gauge. M610 part no. if you're interested.
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the spare pipe should see you through ;D just where to hide it on the trails...... :-\
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Good luck at the event guys I'm sure you will enjoy it ;)
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For those that are not aware due to the ongoing drought in my part of the World the worst I have seen in my 20 years back home, I made a commitment to pursue a new career path outside of farming, sometime ago I had an interview with AGL in Gloucester and was successful in gaining employment .Due to recent Government approvals the manager required some one to start within a 10 day period I started with AGL last Monday on a 2 on 2 off roster this meant I am unable to ride the 4 day, as disappointing as it was I am very grateful to AGL and I was never going to jeopardize the chance to give my family a better opportunity . I would like to thank everybody that has supported Riders Against Depression and I will continue to help raise awareness for this cause ,and support Nathan . Regards Stephen
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bugger >:( that's tough but in this job climate you have made the right decision....food on the table is a priority
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For those that are not aware due to the ongoing drought in my part of the World the worst I have seen in my 20 years back home, I made a commitment to pursue a new career path outside of farming, sometime ago I had an interview with AGL in Gloucester and was successful in gaining employment .Due to recent Government approvals the manager required some one to start within a 10 day period I started with AGL last Monday on a 2 on 2 off roster this meant I am unable to ride the 4 day, as disappointing as it was I am very grateful to AGL and I was never going to jeopardize the chance to give my family a better opportunity . I would like to thank everybody that has supported Riders Against Depression and I will continue to help raise awareness for this cause ,and support Nathan . Regards Stephen
Hey Relfy,
That's a shame, but good to hear that you have now got work and a stable income, congratulations on that front.
There's always next year for the 4 day.
Take it easy mate.
Cheers
Jock
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Good luck to all the riders
Looks a bit dusty , drove thou there today.
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Finished 182nd (from bike #182...) in the prologue.
Rode OK, not great - too defensive, just burns energy and slows me down, really.
Bike is good. A few little niggles with the compression clickers set too stiff, and not quite right jetting, but should all be sorted for tomorrow.
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Keep at it Nathan and Co 8)
http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1059157
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ride smart Nathan and good luck....
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Some of us know Nathan S can be a pain in the preverbal,some words of encouragement for a gruelling cause for Men's Depression would be the shot he needs...on ya guys :)
Join the fight against black dogs.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/464909040311509/
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An extra 1.5 hrs in the saddle will do him good ;D ;D ;D
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He's feeling the pain :P and power of the media :P 8) :D
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/nathans_zps27a2fdae.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/vmx247/media/nathans_zps27a2fdae.jpg.html)
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Great shot Allison, looks like Nathan is doing well on the KDX.
Thanks for the updates.
Cheers
Jock
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This is way tougher than the Warrgul Four Day. I'm riding better and faster than I was then, but its way harder up here. Gone so close to houring out both days - I just can't ride the trail quickly enough to avoid losing lots of late time.
Today was 250km. The riding was easier than yesterday, but more of it, and lots of stuff is just so rutted out. I got stuck in a rut when the fork legs bottomed out - kinda wanted to take a photo of the rut after I pulled the bike back - there was a clear indent on each side of the rut, exactly matching my lower forks legs.
Also failed the cold start test due to the kick starter slipping. Pushed it through, and it started first kick... Grrr.
Shoulder gave me lots of grief in the morning, but it settled down to mere pain after I took my backpack off. Legs doing OK, arms/shoulders not so much.
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Good luck with it.
You will finish , you look well placed at the end of today
Its very dusty in that district at the moment and i bet the dust is deep and real fine from all the traffic.
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Big effort Nathan. Dig in with all the tenacity we know you have! ;D Remember that if you can give it your all you wont have any regrets about the event later with woulda coulda.
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Well done Relfy. You started all this thing off and you can be proud of that.
Best of luck Nathan.
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Top job mate, keep at it.
Tex
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Never give up
Never surrender
The pain you are feeling will quickly dissipate once you make it to the finish
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Never give up
Never surrender
The pain you are feeling will quickly dissipate once you make it to the finish
Galaxy Quest?! You geek. :)
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It's starting to scare me that you understand me :o
(http://www.funcool.net/post_images/0000000702.jpg)
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You look a bit like a Vogon too!
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Shuddup or I will read you some poetry
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Won't matter, my Babel fish died from the last time you read poetry.
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Keep on the main jet Nathan. They do run tight trail times at the A4DE. Heaps of time can be lost, or gained, on the trail sections. Ya going well mate.
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is that "flea" Fleming on pole for the Masters????? again ::)
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Never give up
Never surrender
The pain you are feeling will quickly dissipate once you make it to the finish
Yoda Morris was spot on. Or it might just be all the pain killers. Either way. :)
Job jobbed. Far more sense of accomplishment than after 2012, despite the worse results.
Time for a shower. And a beer - a gallon of beer.
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have several gallons...you deserve it! Well done congratulations...looked terrible dusty!
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Good effort Nathan, well done.
The downside of conventional forks is that they will stick in ruts and this is compounded because hardly anyone uses conventional forks so the 'fork ruts' don't get created.
The results talk of laps, was it multiple laps of the same course or was it more varied?
Did they still give out a Bronze for finishing or just pat you on the back?
And lastly, did you have the oldest bike?
is that "flea" Fleming on pole for the Masters????? again ::)
He was a Clubman in the 200 class in 86 as was I
I was wondering at the time why I couldn't get anywhere near him
Turns out he was talented
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Definitely the oldest bike there. A couple of people suggested it may have been the oldest bike to finish an A4DE, but nobody seemed sure.
A bloke called Mick Turnbull (ex-Oyster Bay, now Gippsland based) was on a 94 TM125. He was quick too. These were the only two bikes with RWU forks
The next oldest bikes were a mid-00s WRF and KTM.
Days 1 & 3 were basically the same ~220km lap as each other, but Day 3 had the shittier bits taken out and replaced by simpler stuff.
Day 2 was a shorter, simpler lap that we did in the morning and then a variation of in the afternoon. 250km all up (~125km each lap).
The trail section on Day 0 was basically reversed to be the trail for Day 4.
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Sounds like u need a Cool down lap at Harrow ;D
Well Done!!!
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There was word that this TM125 had completed 20 4 days?
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/A4DE/P8130120_zps68b32688.jpg)
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Yeah, I saw that too, but its not correct.
He rode it in the 1994 Four Day, and dragged it back out for its 20th anniversary.
He's got two of them - this is his original one from 1994 that is about to be retired from active duty, and a parts/project bike that he's going to fix up & ride when the original bike is retired.
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Job well done Nathan. Is the KDX still looking like new? Or is going straight to the poolroom to be mounted on the wall?
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Congratulations Nathan. Any chance you could come up for the Masters?
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Well done to finish the 4 day at anytime is a huge effort , to do it on a old bike is huge.
Did Ballard do it one once on a 490 Maico?
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Well done to finish the 4 day at anytime is a huge effort , to do it on a old bike is huge.
Did Ballard do it one once on a 490 Maico?
Ballard tried one year on a Maico 490 but suffered a dnf due to ignition failure. Must say that Ballard in his mid 50's, can still cut some seriously fast laps. He was only 4 seconds slower thank Price on the final moto track!
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Congratulations mate, that is a champion effort. Inspired me to go back and read the whole thread again.
The 94 TM is a nice lookin' bike, the 20 year thing is a good story too.
Catch up with you some time.
Tex
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Thanks for all of support and encouragement, gents. Late on the morning of Day2 I was pretty close to going in search of beer to drown my sorrows, but the positivity from people on this forum was one of the reasons I kept going.
Also, a big thanks to everyone who donated money to the cause and to everyone who passed the hat around at various events.
Really, I have a huge list of people who deserve specific, personal Thank Yous... I always try to avoid listing people because I would hate to forget anyone, but I will give it a shot:
My long-suffering wife for everything;
Lard for volunteering to come and be service bitch and for doing a bloody good job of it;
John Robertson for being a service bitch and doing a bloody good job of it;
Mainline for running around collecting and posting the front mousse to me;
Wright Motorcycles for ALL of the help (not least of which was allowing the account limit to be stretched...);
Col Metcher for his publicity and fundraising efforts within the QVMX (and BMCC?);
Greg Scriven for his publicity and fundraising efforts within Heaven;
VMX Magazine for their publicity and fundraising efforts;
Scooter News for their publicity and fundraising efforts;
The Central Coast Dirt Riders crew for their service help;
Phil Gemalas for the accomodation love;
Phteven (that's Stephen with a ph ;) ) Willett for the enthusiasm and parts-spotting;
Everyone at the event who offered support and encouragment, particularly Matt, Luke, Mark, Cuffie, Klee, Bob, Justin, Neil, Mick W, Mick T and Wayne;
Lard's dad for the loan of the ute;
Wog for his servicing help;
Brad for donating a mousse to a complete stranger at the start of the event - that particular gesture was particularly appreciated;
And last - but definitely not least - Relfy for coming up with the bloody idea in the first place!
It really is a seriously humbling experience now that I've typed it out. More so when I consider that I haven't mentioned my mum or Lard's missus or another dozen people who were happy to put themselves out so I could go racing an old dirt bike.
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Right now, sitting here with a bung leg, two aching elbows and numerous other aches and pains... I'm already looking forward to the 2015 A4DE in Tasmania.
Relfy, are you in?
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We'd love to see all you guys up here for the Masters Vinduro beginning November to continue with the fundraising and incidently have a great time. Half as long and twice as easy as Nathan's effort. No houring out and team mate(s) to share the load.
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Right now, sitting here with a bung leg, two aching elbows and numerous other aches and pains... I'm already looking forward to the 2015 A4DE in Tasmania.
You might have to get a more modern bike for Tassie. Time to dust off the TM...
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Nathan, now I have a real job where you actually get holidays YES I AM IN and I will commit on this forum , it was a very hard decision to with draw from the event however I knew it would cost me a job .I have never met you, yet we have had some great conversations over the phone I look forward to catching up having a few beers and hearing about the experience well done . cheers Relfy
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Don't forget the Masters is a featured event in the "Riders Against Depression" fundraiser.
Would be great to see Relfy (I'll sponsor you) and Nathan up here for this.
I'd reckon after I drove down and wobbled around at Gloucester you Heaven types should take a trip to the Gold Coast :-)
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Yeah, I'm keen. Just not so sure on bank balance or brownie points balance.
Plus work has been a bit messed up.
But it almost sounds like there will be enough riding to make the trip worthwhile. :)
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Early bird discount extended one week for Masters