You gonna go down to Port Augusta to watch Dave .
You gonna go down to Port Augusta to watch Dave .
No Tm Bill, I will be having a ride, I will have three bikes ready when it come around, what are the dates.
Dave I assume you're talking about the pre 78 Classic Titles in SA late in the year? because there is also the Post Classic Titles at Toowoomba in April... You better keep some keepers ;)
Dave I assume you're talking about the pre 78 Classic Titles in SA late in the year? because there is also the Post Classic Titles at Toowoomba in April... You better keep some keepers ;)
Unless the name has been changed, Australia Vintage Titles for pre 78, pre 75, pre 70, pre 65. any idea what month it will be.
was stated at presentation at MX park Qld that it was the last weekend of August
I hope you do ride Dave, and that you keep your keepers. From memory, the last time you rode a Nationals at Conondale, you couldn't ride on Sunday because you sold your Keeper on Saturday.
I hope you do ride Dave, and that you keep your keepers. From memory, the last time you rode a Nationals at Conondale, you couldn't ride on Sunday because you sold your Keeper on Saturday.
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I'm gunna piss me self laughing ;D
I hope you do ride Dave, and that you keep your keepers. From memory, the last time you rode a Nationals at Conondale, you couldn't ride on Sunday because you sold your bike on Saturday. Next year let's see if you can 1: keep a bike, develop it and enter it at the Nats, 2: actually get to Port Augusta and 3: make it through all three days without selling the bloody thing. I'd really love to see you do all three of those things mate, you're a good rider but I'm willing to bet my dodgy left knee that another half a dozen bikes will pass through 'Kamp Keeper' before Pt Augusta comes around :o.I will be there having a ride Mark.
Why Paul, you wont even be there.I hope you do ride Dave, and that you keep your keepers. From memory, the last time you rode a Nationals at Conondale, you couldn't ride on Sunday because you sold your Keeper on Saturday.
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I'm gunna piss me self laughing ;D
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What you riding at the titles John? Consider a ride or passenger on an aging, quiet, nearly...lightweight, easy to operate Honda powered sidecar , for a bit of light body relief and relaxation between solo motos?
would we have to fly to Adelaide or is there another way from Perth (quickest way)
The date has changed from what they said at QMP, it clashed with the Conondale Classic....it was one week afterwards, we have been talking with them and I'll let the Pt Augusta club tell the date but it will be around early September......we want to give it the best chance and the riders the best chance to go to what will be a great event.....shit, I hope Firko brings his trophy girls. ;D
Dave I assume you're talking about the pre 78 Classic Titles in SA late in the year? because there is also the Post Classic Titles at Toowoomba in April... You better keep some keepers ;)
The date has changed from what they said at QMP, it clashed with the Conondale Classic....it was one week afterwards, we have been talking with them and I'll let the Pt Augusta club tell the date but it will be around early September......we want to give it the best chance and the riders the best chance to go to what will be a great event.....shit, I hope Firko brings his trophy girls. ;D
I might change the spark plug, say, around June/ July in readiness :)
No filter change When in front it's nothing but clean air
No filter change When in front it's nothing but clean airWith trash talk like that i may have to dust off my rm.
Only date I can see is Sat 6 Sep is that the weekend now, can't see any other dates
Still no supp regs today Roger..
tell me about it Baz - you is one sick puppy ;D
Next Question.
Last year they ran age racing in all capacity,on line entry only allow's fo one age race entry per age.
will it be an all powers event?
Noel
I was looking at bringing two bikes to the event. As I'm an old fart and will never be up the front was going to make certain I got my money's worth by riding 250 and 125 class in my age group therefore, not get in anyone's way and get some ride time in the even. Now I might just bring the one bike.
Get your point Kerry, but I (and I think Tossa) were making the point that we, and a lot of older riders ,don't want to be cannon fodder for the young guns. Hence we enter 125, 250 and/or 263+ age classes and not open.
As this is not available this year there is no point in bringing the extra bikes.
Bottom line is you guys run it how you see fit and I'll make my choices accordingly as will others.
Either way we'll be there.
Get your point Kerry, but I (and I think Tossa) were making the point that we, and a lot of older riders ,don't want to be cannon fodder for the young guns. Hence we enter 125, 250 and/or 263+ age classes and not open.
As this is not available this year there is no point in bringing the extra bikes.
Bottom line is you guys run it how you see fit and I'll make my choices accordingly as will others.
Either way we'll be there.
The whole thing about age groups within the pre75 is simply, the age groups that race them. The dynamic is more over 50 than under. We love to attend the Nats and be involved and capacity racing within age groups (where possible) brings more bikes, more money, more competitive rides (within age groups) for the older rider. My thoughts only, are that not only is it a national championship but a celebration of the era and those who rode it. I will be there which ever way it is run. I always look at it as being a great event, well run and a chance to have fun with a lot of like minded people. I got lapped (and I wasn't the only one) in the open championships last yr and wished I had brought a second bike so I could race more with my age group and not get in the way of the kids!!.I agree with tossa, I personally raced the early 70`s to 79 and retired from MX, I came back to the vintage scene in 1990 to relive my era again and enjoy the spirit of it all, I personally enjoy the company of others and bikes. the racing is secondary, I have also enjoyed crashing bars with friends over the years, trophies don`t interest me. its the friendship, atmosphere at meetings and the love of our sport. (Rust never sleeps) David #14.
We know it's an Australian championship, but it's not modern, it's not for great prestige or money, it celebrates the sport. We come over from the west to do the best we can and catch up with a hell of a lot of great people, and renew rivalries on the track.
Just my thoughts no more, no less. I will be there and thoroughly support the event and the club running it
Barry
Baz - translators maybe an additional requirement when "talking" with Qld's?
Will get my entry in this weekend, had a ball in QLD last year. Brent , will you be riding your TM 125 ? Would be good to see some more yellow on the start line. Cheers Terry.
I didn't have any trouble entering multiple bikes.. 3 bikes and enetered and the 250/ old farts age group as well..just go back to the beginning after completing one bike entry.. the detail is mostly populated as well.. so easier / less typing..
classes stand as is.
you can race your peers with any bike you like in your age group, you can even wear a plant pot on your head for all I care.
It's plant pot Craig. It'll breeze through the drug test....after all it is SA.
It'll breeze through the drug test....after all it is SA.
36 days to go :P
It'll breeze through the drug test....after all it is SA.
While on the subject of terrain......Michelin's out ~ Dunlop and Pirelli's in ;) :)
Just a thought! What about a "state team'' award based on overall placings over the weekend. Of course it will not be a recognised by MA but could add a little more colour and interest to the event, particularly if all the other states get together and organise bibs like the ones we have been running with over a number of previous nationals. Your thoughts?
classes stand as is.
you can race your peers with any bike you like in your age group, you can even wear a plant pot on your head for all I care.
so long as the plant pot doesnt start with a 5## - and its not had its swing arm modified the plant pot will get a ride.
You better make sure it's a period correct pot plant otherwise scrutineering will fail it ;D
A handicapped team event at the end or pony express would be a great finish
A handicapped team event at the end or pony express would be a great finish
A handicapped event has merit especially if it kicks off at 1am Sunday morning. Team NSW are definite starters ;D
Do think the nationals will be in victoria 2015. its been a long time between drinks.
May do a last minute fly in depending on work. But I wont be riding,
Hello Ted,
Thanks for that beer offer. Look forward to it. :)
Nathan.
(HBS)
Hello Ted,
Thanks for that beer offer. Look forward to it. :)
Nathan.
(HBS)
Like wise Nathan, Ted and all other forum folk drop in and say gidday to WA :)
Thanks VMX, cheers. :)
Nathan.
(HBS)
Nathan if you were still in Tassie I could loan you a pre 78 YZ250 . Iain
Hello everybody, I haven't posted in ages (and then I only did so a few times), but just wanted to say I'll be travelling up from Adelaide on the Friday to attend the weekend. Sadly, I won't be able to enter (small matter of no bike to ride), but still looking forward to it. :)
Nathan (HBS).
How about a WA nats, they always support like no other state and myself would love to head west for a blast.WA will only run the pre75 and I would be the first one to tick the entry box if they would run the complete Classic event that included pre 78. Unfortunately the Nationals and MA will always want the whole of the events offered to riders.
No 125 this year Ted, was looking forward to watch pre78 125's, is the suzi not up to it?
Nathan if you were still in Tassie I could loan you a pre 78 YZ250 . Iain
Nathan if you were still in Tassie I could loan you a pre 78 YZ250 . Iain
Hey Ian mate, how's ya going? Thanks for the offer, much appreciated.
Hopefully see you at Port Augusta.
Nathan.
(HBS)
Any hint of who has put in a bid for 2015 then . IainThere is no one yet................
I sold the cr Ted to a local Pt Augusta legend called Ian Butler, Butler is in his mid forties and a great rider. Hes hopefully recovered from a brocken wrist to ride.
Liam has a big weekend then as it seems by the entries that alot of people riding 2,3 and 4 bikes.
211 is the AJS going to see the track again or are you still collecting bits.
Getting excited as its only 3 weeks away to see, hear, smell and ride some classics with a chin wag in between.
If theres no takers for next year, Im sure another SA club would put there hand up for 2015
I sold the cr Ted to a local Pt Augusta legend called Ian Butler, Butler is in his mid forties and a great rider. Hes hopefully recovered from a brocken wrist to ride.its all but done but wont make this event - just taking a 125 for a bit of fun.
Liam has a big weekend then as it seems by the entries that alot of people riding 2,3 and 4 bikes.
211 is the AJS going to see the track again or are you still collecting bits.
Getting excited as its only 3 weeks away to see, hear, smell and ride some classics with a chin wag in between.
If theres no takers for next year, Im sure another SA club would put there hand up for 2015
Age classes in the Pre75 three capacities have been in way before the split.
https://www.samotocross.com/sws/core/notice/notice_305.html
why has age group gone capacity ,is this since the split ??
16.2.2.3
isn't this more cost to all clubs & riders ??
Dave is there enough interest down there these days? There not many Vic's entered this years Nats given it closer than the last few years.
What's this, we'll have no trouble here! This is a local championships for local people! Enough of this talk of bosses being bastards!!! Even if it might be true :D
When are you going to grace us with your presence Rossco I have forgotten what you look like!!!!
Would that be ladyboys? :Dyou would know
No John Boag in the listing..?? unusual.... :o
How's the stress levels Freaky? Not long now hey. If you have any last minute things to do on the Friday get a list together and I'm sure Team WA can lend a hand :D
We haven't thought of the flag bearer.......................
We're not sure what to call ourselves,
Two Kiwis, living in Darwin, both called Brent
Team NT?
Team Kiwi?
Team Brent?
What's the price of fuel on the Nullabor now Allison?
We haven't thought of the flag bearer.......................
We're not sure what to call ourselves,
Two Kiwis, living in Darwin, both called Brent
Team NT?
Team Kiwi?
Team Brent?
:)
Just love it, bring your stubbie holder over to the WA mob
Hello Slakewell,
He won the first race in the morning, the yz250 was running great. Second race was sitting in second place closing in on first and about to make it a race when as he said it just lost power. Initially he thought the spark plug cap had come off. He could kick it over, didn't seize but no spark.
So dnf. After pulling it apart and seeing what's going on it appears to be internal. A real bummer.
Great weekend apart from the 3 lap dash. GCR come out saying 4. Before a wheel is turned those in the know shorten the races to 3 because we have so many races. We finished at 1.30 Sunday and had lunch breaks on Saturday and Sunday , turned it into a 1 and 1/2 day event. Could have and should have done it over 4 laps min!!!!!!
3 lap races suck. Especially for a supposed championship.
Kevins idea of timed races would be the go I reckon. Something like 15 imuntes + 1 lap.....
3 lap races suck. Especially for a supposed championship.
Kevins idea of timed races would be the go I reckon. Something like 15 imuntes + 1 lap.....
That would of made it 5or6 laps plus one @port augusta :)
What length races do most clubs run - 3 or 4 lap sprints. Why would you want the titles to be twice as long as a club race? Doesn't make sense to me but I am happy to be corrected.Motocross has always been a test of ability and fitness and a title event should be just that. 15mins is probably too long but 3 laps is not enough.
If it's not what we race normally then there is no reason to make the titles an endurance race when we normally race sprints on our old bikes. The logic that a Title race needs to be 15 minutes for it to mean something does not stack up in my view. Sounds more like the logic is .... if I have to travel all that way then I want to cut lots of laps. Understandable but not of itself a reason for 15 minute motos.
Aussie nationals should be where we gather from all states and race each other.....not some marathon to sort the fast fit guys from the slow unfit guys 8) That can be done in a sprint race ;D
While 3 laps is too short (even Speedway has 4), 15 mins + 1 is too much. Set it as 12 minutes and state it can finish just short if need be. That is what it was at Echo Valley. The trouble with time plus 1 lap is the leader can go by just before the time is up so it can be almost two extra laps. Toowoomba was six laps for most classes.Yes Kev the Toowoomba motos were the perfect length..
landed in late last night - was a great meeting well run and a great club with a lot to be proud of to have run it as well. Track look a tad scary until you rode it and found (im my view anyway) that it was really good and fun to ride.
Few broken Maicos and hondas - not the first time for that but good racing and a great weekend. Congrats to the club.
211
Was told when we arrived that the local modern club get around the track in 2:10, so you guys will be 2:30 plus.
Two guys on Pre 78 125 bikes were getting around in 2:06
Wonder what he thinks of our old shitboxes now.
JO - why should the races be shortened - maybe the higher percentage of people fall into the fat and unfit category - make it for A graders and A graders will come - make it for everyone and......It's an Australian Championship Ross.. the best riders should win not the holeshot artists.
he got around quicker on the 77 than he does on his modern 125
he got around quicker on the 77 than he does on his modern 125
Old bikes rule :) :) :) :) :) 8) 8) 8) 8)
What a lot of ungrateful buggers some of us are. Dozens of people spending months planning, organising and running their butts off all weekend to put on the titles, and some of us complain that the races were too short, unbelievable!
Thankyou Port Augusta for giving us the opportunity to enjoy a great weekend of racing, camaraderie and fellowship, not to mention a few beers! Thanks again from me to John Selva and Troy Kellaway for all your help over the weekend. This is truly a great sport and I am proud to tell people that I am a Vintage motocrosser. Roll on 2015 so we can get together and do it all over again :D
Kind Regards to all
Nick
If asking a question about why the amount of laps was shortened before testing time constraints is complaining, then I'm not here. Take the time out for the medical staff on the track and the lunch break and this meet would have been over at Noon on Sunday.
At QMP last year they started with 6 laps, realised they would run out of time and shortened it to 5 laps for the Saturday and ran 4 laps on the Sunday. Hence my question on why the time constraints weren't tested before making a decision. This is not a slag off at the host club. I thought they did a fantastic job. They even bent over backwards to find me a welder and operator to fix my bike.
Kev, I was told by a local that their own fast guys do 2:10's around the track and we would be 2:30. I am assuming they weren't expecting some guys doing 2:06's and plenty doing 2:10 on these old shitboxes we ride. This was confirmed when the fastest local rider there said to me he can lap quicker on a 77 model than he can on his modern. It was pre-conceived that they would struggle for time. Pity that they didn't think about that before they put out the supp regs.
How's the stress levels Freaky? Not long now hey. If you have any last minute things to do on the Friday get a list together and I'm sure Team WA can lend a hand :D
Nice photos, also its nice to see the riders with period clothing, it makes a big difference.