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Offline Tossa

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #195 on: August 05, 2014, 10:13:59 am »
Final numbers, 308 bikes, not certain about the number of riders

https://www.samotocross.com/sws/core/notice/notice_305.html
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #196 on: August 05, 2014, 10:35:18 am »
The 308 is the total number of races / riders / entered..if you know what I  mean.. there is some duplication of bikes / classes ..I think the number is closer to 180..

and only 1 sidecar.. WTF.. ???

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #197 on: August 05, 2014, 10:36:22 am »
Great numbers all the same.. looking forward to the trek across.. ;D

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #198 on: August 05, 2014, 10:38:14 am »
yep you are still correct Watto
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #199 on: August 05, 2014, 11:46:50 am »
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #200 on: August 05, 2014, 12:39:16 pm »
https://www.samotocross.com/sws/core/notice/notice_305.html

why has age group gone capacity ,is this since the split ??
16.2.2.3
isn't this more cost to all clubs & riders ??


Hi Allison in my opinion every version is technically an option but there is no mandate of application. ( there is no mandate outside of the basic eligible bike list).
IMHO Its easy to read the rule as its written not how it can be matrixed.  The sport has moved from only a few ages, to more ages,  to more pre 75, 78 and so on, from only being able to fit 20 in a gate. there are  now 4 stokes, slider and sidecars in pre 75 the reference eligible bikes by simple key identifier as they stand.  perhaps not as people chose to read them on face value.   It simply indicate that age be made up of those 3 bike as identified.   IT has allowed the event hosts to manage the evolution of the programs to create combination and combine classes that are under subscribed, or divested in to capacities to split over those subscribed with the sole purpose of creating official age group titles ( not the 58 titles that could be argued as valid otherwise).  The way I see it is that It always depends on the number of entries and how the event coordinator wants to put the program together to maximise not only the bonifide Aussie titles on offer but the opportunity for every rider the ride and be able to compete in a title class, when they enter an event, whether they want to create Aussie title classes or support rides is the programmers option.  It is 6 of one and half doesn of the other. 
The reality is technically you can build the ages however you want so long as the bikes used in the event are from the predetimed capacity classes ( ie not sidecars, sliders, 4 stroke etc)
Tosa your right in as much as  16.5 is just a move from the old book . But again no where does it indicate a mandate of ages must be down into capacities...   
Alison 16.2.23 actually comes from the old books in the front under general aussie titles and simply again previously simply indicates the bikes used in the age groups for the purpose of MA medallions can only come form those capacity based bikes, not sidecars, sliders and so on etc etc.  when Ma went from Printed books to online all the relivant parts from all over the publication was put back into the section it related to so that rule line is slightly out of context and just replaced into the section. ( which is why it only appears there and not any in other table such as 16.5 )
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #201 on: August 05, 2014, 04:22:16 pm »
Someone said to me show me were it says age group racing is capacity racing.  Well 16.1(for Aust Champs)  16.3 & 16.4 (for other meetings)

 for Classic MX&DT says
Pre 75 Age Group Racing 125 - 250 - 263 plus
under 30
30-39
40-49
50-59
60-plus
70-plus "super senior class"
for Post Classic MX&DT
under 30
30-39
40-49
50-59
60-plus
70-plus "super senior class"

The reason I say the term "Unlimited" should used instead of All Powers, is because we have had Unlimited Championships in the past but I don't think we have had All Powers Championships.

I believe if there isn't enough to have an age group by itself just combine age groups.  Isn't sponsorship paying for the trophies anyway.

 
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #202 on: August 05, 2014, 07:15:45 pm »
Dave is there enough interest down there these days?  There not many Vic's entered this years Nats given it closer than the last few years.

The only reason that I am not going this year, is that I was redundant early March this year, and started a new job and I don`t have enough leave, a friend of mine is heading over, I feel that their
isn`t enough clubs in victoria willing to raise there hand, I would like to see the sporting club host it again, they certainly did well the first time.

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #203 on: August 05, 2014, 07:23:49 pm »
If it is in Vic next year I can make it over for a w\end , Haven't  been able since 2011 as self employed and my boss is a right bastard to get time off from . Iain
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #204 on: August 05, 2014, 07:53:38 pm »
yeah - we have all ehard about your boss Iain  ;D
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #205 on: August 05, 2014, 07:54:27 pm »
 ;D
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #206 on: August 05, 2014, 08:11:22 pm »
What's this, we'll have no trouble here! This is a local championships for local people! Enough of this talk of bosses being bastards!!! Even if it might be true :D
When are you going to grace us with your presence Rossco I have forgotten what you look like!!!!

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #207 on: August 05, 2014, 08:16:35 pm »
Actually I just remembered what I was going to talk about! I just heard on the grapevine that practice is to consist of only ONE sighter lap? Any truth in this Freaky? Or is it just gossip?

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #208 on: August 05, 2014, 08:39:56 pm »
What's this, we'll have no trouble here! This is a local championships for local people! Enough of this talk of bosses being bastards!!! Even if it might be true :D
When are you going to grace us with your presence Rossco I have forgotten what you look like!!!!

This hurts but I actually have to support Rossco, as he lent me a part so one of the members from deliverance country (Bridgetown) can ride at the Nats.

But on the other hand he opened a new fashion outlet in Laos but it failed miserably as no one rides MX over there or are that damn big!!!  Also they have names for those who wear fluro gear over there
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #209 on: August 05, 2014, 08:53:45 pm »
Would that be ladyboys? :D