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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #255 on: August 25, 2014, 02:28:46 pm »
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #256 on: August 25, 2014, 05:29:57 pm »
Frame breaking track is not on, and as for 3 laps races for a Australia title is ridiculous.
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #257 on: August 25, 2014, 06:21:10 pm »
While 3 laps is too short (even Speedway has 4), 15 mins + 1 is too much.  Set it as 12 minutes and state it can finish just short if need be.  That is what it was at Echo Valley.  The trouble with time plus 1 lap is the leader can go by just before the time is up so it can be almost two extra laps.   Toowoomba was six laps for most classes.

I was one the finish flag at the AMXC round at Conondale.  The lap time was around the 2min 30 mark.  The leader usually went by about 10 to 30 secs before the time was up.  Made everything slower and had to wait longer for the last rider.

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #258 on: August 25, 2014, 06:29:19 pm »
Was told when we arrived that the local modern club get around the track in 2:10, so you guys will be 2:30 plus.

Two guys on Pre 78 125 bikes were getting around in 2:06

Wonder what he thinks of our old shitboxes now.
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #259 on: August 25, 2014, 08:01:53 pm »
What length races do most clubs run - 3 or 4 lap sprints. Why would you want the titles to be twice as long as a club race? Doesn't make sense to me but I am happy to be corrected.

If it's not what we race normally then there is no reason to make the titles an endurance race when we normally race sprints on our old bikes. The logic that a Title race needs to be 15 minutes for it to mean something does not stack up in my view. Sounds more like the logic is .... if I have to travel all that way then I want to cut lots of laps. Understandable but not of itself a reason for 15 minute motos.

Aussie nationals should be where we gather from all states and race each other.....not some marathon to sort the fast fit guys from the slow unfit guys  8) That can be done in a sprint race  ;D
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #260 on: August 25, 2014, 08:11:09 pm »
I didn't hear 1 mention of 3 laps being an issue, never heard a negative word one way or the other about it. Get over it; the meeting was great.

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #261 on: August 25, 2014, 08:12:22 pm »
The question is why we're they cut from 4 to 3 without even a bike turning a wheel. FFS it was all over at 1:30 pm ? I would not have liked to be a paying spectator and only watch less than 4 hrs racing.
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #262 on: August 25, 2014, 08:24:03 pm »
What length races do most clubs run - 3 or 4 lap sprints. Why would you want the titles to be twice as long as a club race? Doesn't make sense to me but I am happy to be corrected.

If it's not what we race normally then there is no reason to make the titles an endurance race when we normally race sprints on our old bikes. The logic that a Title race needs to be 15 minutes for it to mean something does not stack up in my view. Sounds more like the logic is .... if I have to travel all that way then I want to cut lots of laps. Understandable but not of itself a reason for 15 minute motos.

Aussie nationals should be where we gather from all states and race each other.....not some marathon to sort the fast fit guys from the slow unfit guys  8) That can be done in a sprint race  ;D
Motocross has always been a test of ability and fitness and a title event should be just that. 15mins is probably too long but 3 laps is not enough.
Why should the races be shortened to suit the fat unfit people?

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #263 on: August 25, 2014, 08:26:20 pm »
While 3 laps is too short (even Speedway has 4), 15 mins + 1 is too much.  Set it as 12 minutes and state it can finish just short if need be.  That is what it was at Echo Valley.  The trouble with time plus 1 lap is the leader can go by just before the time is up so it can be almost two extra laps.   Toowoomba was six laps for most classes.
Yes Kev the Toowoomba motos were the perfect length..

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #264 on: August 25, 2014, 08:57:26 pm »
landed in late last night - was a great meeting well run and a great club with a lot to be proud of to have run it as well. Track look a tad scary until you rode it and found (im my view anyway) that it was really good and fun to ride.
Few broken Maicos and hondas - not the first time for that but good racing and a great weekend. Congrats to the club.
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #265 on: August 25, 2014, 09:20:10 pm »
Ditto to that Barry!

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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #266 on: August 25, 2014, 09:30:07 pm »
Stacey Heaney's lovely mum came into the shop today and showed me the podium pic of the womens class, was I right in hearing that the winner of the women's class was a post op trans gender "lady"??  ???
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #267 on: August 26, 2014, 04:08:52 am »
I say and I have for years, make it 5 rounds of racing and keep it 3 laps and drop your worst round, that you can have one bad race and still be in with a shot, traveling all that way to do 9 laps is a joke...   JMO
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #268 on: August 26, 2014, 08:44:16 am »
Was told when we arrived that the local modern club get around the track in 2:10, so you guys will be 2:30 plus.

Two guys on Pre 78 125 bikes were getting around in 2:06

Wonder what he thinks of our old shitboxes now.

Ted Maybe the local modern lap time was for a 65?
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Re: 2014 Australian Classic Motocross Titles for pre 78
« Reply #269 on: August 26, 2014, 08:58:11 am »
Was told by the nice young local bloke who won the 125 title that he got around quicker on the 77 than he does on his modern 125. He was flying.
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