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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: AjayVMX on September 03, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
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OK guys and girls. We know things are very depressing recently and that makes it hard to get motivated to do anything. With the recent demise of some key events in VMX this year, it's obvious that everyone is struggling a little.
That general malaise has also affected rider pre-registration for Suzuki Classic Dirt 10, with rider registrations significantly lower than last year at this stage of the game.
Classic Dirt is an extremely high cost event to run and VMX magazine is at best, a small business. Consequently, we must run the event on at least a break-even basis as a bare minimum. Currently, rider registration numbers are not enough to give us any confidence that we will get the attendance necessary to meet that requirement.
So, this post is to advise that if you ARE intending to come to Suzuki Classic Dirt 10 and ride, and you HAVEN'T registered to ride as yet, you need to do so by the end of this week, because we will be making a GO / NO GO decision at that time.
Obviously, not everyone who comes to CD is on this forum. Please contact any friends you know in your circle of friends or club and let them know, in case they were planning to come to CD10 and haven't registered yet.
This information is also going to be posted on the VMX Magazine Facebook page.
It would obviously be very disappointing to have to cancel the event this year, so it's up to you, out there in VMX land to ensure it happens!
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come on guys the Air Unzes flights are paid for, lets do it
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The big thing for me was no online registration. My apathetic ways means downloading and printing a form then posting it snail mail and needing a check goes to the too hard basket.
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So were you not planning on coming because of that?
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I love CD it's always a priority
I have not entered because of the system I'm GUNNA do it this week.
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The entry form has the ability to use a credit card, and presumably you can email a scanned copy to MWMCC or fax. So there's not really any reason why you can't enter electronically.... ???
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It better not be cancelled, you'll never get another one off the ground if you do! If you don't get the pre-entry numbers, just down-size the over-heads. This event MUST run ..... regardless.
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Just out of curiosity, has the event been promoted in the mainstream press at all? I don't think I've seen it in DA or ADB. Is it worth posting a blurb on the various Facebook pages - eg DA, ADB, etc? I have been surprised by the lack of enthusiasm shown here on the forum too, most years there is a lot of hype and discussion but this year not so much.
While I know not everyone is on this site, a LOT are, and they have mates and so on. Everyone needs to push the event and get people registering if they want to come. How about the various clubs like VIPER, QVMX, HEAVEN etc? Maybe an email to members or a post on their websites and Facebook pages.
I am happy to post up a link on the various VMX/MX websites and DT sites I frequent.
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I have just sent an email out to all Viper members including a copy of Ajays post , fingers crossed CD10 goes ahead. Regards Peter.
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Ajay, there are 3 of us from Melbourne planning on coming to this. we are all first timers
Didnt realise that we had to pre register, can you give us some details on how and where to do this?
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You get the form here.
http://manlywarringahmcc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Classic-Dirt-10-Entry-Form-2013.pdf
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The big thing for me was no online registration. My apathetic ways means downloading and printing a form then posting it snail mail and needing a check goes to the too hard basket.
Print form, fill in with credit card details for payment, scan and email it.
If you haven't got a scanner, use your phone camera or whatever other digital device you have, save & attach to email.
Voila!
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It better not be cancelled, you'll never get another one off the ground if you do! If you don't get the pre-entry numbers, just down-size the over-heads. This event MUST run ..... regardless.
Nice idea John, but not possible. The venue has the vast majority of the costs fixed, so basically we need a minimum attendance to make it work.
You can be assured that we WANT it to happen, but the lack of obvious support so far has been very disappointing, to say the least. :(
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Sorry i cannot go. there is another event that weekend that i committed to...
Brett
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I printed and sent via fax and didnt hear anything , either by mail or email , when I rang and spoke to Ken he informs me that they dont send a confirmation WTF
so unless I check my bank statements Im not sure if Im registered or not , spoke to others and same ?
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Just out of curiosity, has the event been promoted in the mainstream press at all? I don't think I've seen it in DA or ADB. Is it worth posting a blurb on the various Facebook pages - eg DA, ADB, etc? I have been surprised by the lack of enthusiasm shown here on the forum too, most years there is a lot of hype and discussion but this year not so much.
While I know not everyone is on this site, a LOT are, and they have mates and so on. Everyone needs to push the event and get people registering if they want to come. How about the various clubs like VIPER, QVMX, HEAVEN etc? Maybe an email to members or a post on their websites and Facebook pages.
I am happy to post up a link on the various VMX/MX websites and DT sites I frequent.
Graeme, yes it has been promoted in Trailzone. Not ADB or DA.
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What numbers do you have so far and at what point will you pull the pin.
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What numbers do you have so far and at what point will you pull the pin.
The numbers we have are decent but not enough. We will pull the pin if we don't get more people.
No further detail will be provided nor is it relevant!
You are either planning to go or not, if you are, you need to pre-register to ride!
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Entry Emailed :)
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I printed entry filled it in put credit card details on it emailed it to club got cofirmation email next day its not hard did this about a month ago hope its not cancelled didnt enter a few races in vic in prep for CD
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Because of the Classic Nats being held in Qld now, QVMX had to change our last meet which is our trophy presentation, dinner, AGM, practice weekend with camping at our Bidaddaba track. MQ would not give us a permit for that date now that they are holding the meeting and the only other date available to us was the CD date (other meetings after this date had to be considered as well). A real pain in the arse as it effects us and CD. :(...not happy jan.
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http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=30368.msg296163#msg296163
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Give it a flucking break Nathan. >:( You just don't know when to quit do you?
I printed and sent via fax and didnt hear anything , either by mail or email , when I rang and spoke to Ken he informs me that they dont send a confirmation WTF
printed entry filled it in put credit card details on it emailed it to club got cofirmation email next day its not hard did this about a month ago hope its not cancelled didn't enter a few races in vic in prep for CD
I entered myself and a mate on my card and heard back from Manly club to confirm a day or two later. A week or so later I entered for another mate who's away overseas on business but haven't heard back from Manly with confirmation. Not a complaint, just stating my situation. I really hope everyone can help pull this together, we have seen Classic Dirt grow over the last 13 years to become our sports holy grail, a VMX Woodstock. It'll be a tragedy beyond salvation if the event had to be cancelled so if you can enter, please do it now.
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Pull your head out of your arse Firko, He has a fair point!
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Give it a flucking break Nathan. >:( You just don't know when to quit do you?
You know I don't.
But fork me... If CD10 goes down due to lack of numbers while refusing to accept entries from people with VMX bikes, then the problem isn't my inability to let stupidity slide.
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Pull your head out of your arse Firko, He has a fair point!
Maybe. But now's not the time to bring it all up again.
Here's the link to the entries.
http://manlywarringahmcc.com.au/suzuki-classic-dirt-10/ (http://manlywarringahmcc.com.au/suzuki-classic-dirt-10/)
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Pull your head out of your arse Firko, He has a fair point!
Maybe. But now's not the time to bring it all up again.
Here's the link to the entries.
http://manlywarringahmcc.com.au/suzuki-classic-dirt-10/ (http://manlywarringahmcc.com.au/suzuki-classic-dirt-10/)
NO, NOT MAYBE! Were the future of this sport, and all you old farts are shitting in our face, Maybe is the wake up call!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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and all you old farts are shitting in our face
Lovely....thanks mate.
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Nathan and Firko, Both good VMX folk.
I think pre 90 may boost the numbers too. I have no bikes newer than 1983 in my VMXers so i have no vested interest. after all an 89 bike is twenty something years old....
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I have send my entry off. all good.
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and all you old farts are shitting in our face
Lovely....thanks mate.
It made me laugh, but it's a fair comment.
Maybe this is the point where it becomes clear that the VMX scene cannot be sustained without progressing?
Of maybe just that its time to call Nathan names again, bury our heads in the sand and continue the slide to oblivion?
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and all you old farts are shitting in our face
Lovely....thanks mate.
It made me laugh, but it's a fair comment.
Maybe this is the point where it becomes clear that the VMX scene cannot be sustained without progressing?
Of maybe just that its time to call Nathan names again, bury our heads in the sand and continue the slide to oblivion?
Might be a fair comment but it could be delivered a whole lot nicer than that don't you think?? I hope it's not representative of the "future of our sport" ::)
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I think its a fair comment, if you have blinkers on, as a lot of people do then the sport won`t move on. and improve, vmx is in reverse gear. The CSC club are doing just that, tunnel vision in their own stubbin ways.
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CD10 Has gota happen! Iv been waiting since CD9! I registered months ago.......P.S I.m with ya Nathan, im 32 years old this year, in most modern clubs id be nearly ready for Vets (over 35s) but in the VMX scene there is only a very small amount of people in my age group. What will happen when the older generation cant ride anymore???? Sorry I don't mean this to turn into a pre90 discussion. But it is important for the future of the sport!
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Of course it takes the court jester to come out of retirement and ruin it all again. ::)
Seriously Nathan, you need to just go away (putting it nicely) and keep your opinions to yourself. Take the hint and stop this nonsense now. ;)
It's people like you who make being involved with this sport a complete and utter pain in the arse. >:(
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all you old farts are shitting in our face
You can actually hear the Beatles sing this if you play Eleanor Rugby backwards
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You can actually hear the Beatles sing this if you play Eleanor Rugby backwards
Is that what the Wallabies have been playing? ;D ;D ;D
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dave if you rode your bikes instead of selling them the club might be going ahead,good to see you are thinking of going to C/D any way.
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Bazza, I am looking forward to Cd10, the last Time I went to one of these events was Barrabool, it really isnt about me selling bikes, the CSC Club has lost over a 100 members, through there own greed.
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NO, NOT MAYBE! Were the future of this sport, and all you old farts are shitting in our face, Maybe is the wake up call!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't have an opinion either way on the subject, but comments like this have no place on here and all you've done is added one more person to the list of those against your inclusion.
We're all supposed to have a common interest on here, so support the event if you want it to continue or stay away.
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Some of you people should be ashamed of yourself, some seem to have an inibility to differentiate between having a conflicting opinion with someone and thinking less of that person for harbouring that opinion. >:( Say whatever you like Nathan!!!!!
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People often ask me why the corporate types dont put more money into the vintage game.
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Ill be sure next year CD will be back to sunny QLD were you can be sure you can get the numbers.
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People often ask me why the corporate types dont put more money into the vintage game.
I will second that!
Cheers Worms
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Ill be sure next year CD will be back to sunny QLD were you can be sure you can get the numbers.
Speculation about where CD will be in the future is not helpful to this thread. The last time we talked to the QLDers, they weren't keen to have the event anyway as a matter of interest. ::)
However we need people to act now to save CD10! :D
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It's an unwritten law that vmxers have to have more than one or two bikes so go out and buy an older bike as in a pre 85 so you can take part. Or rather than be negative , how about you put a positive spin and say that you're keen but only have the later bikes. If you're a decent guy you will be able to take a bike or two of mine for a spin and u know others will offer the same.
Also I don't think the four or five pre 90 only guys that have been alienated by this terrible exclusion will help in making the event succeed or not.
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Exactly. ;)
Can we have no more discussion of Pre-90 in this thread please?
That subject has been done to death elsewhere and nothing will change for CD10, whether it goes ahead or not.
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STOP IT..THE LOT OF YOU.. This is not the place or the time for name calling and philosophical grandstanding. This is YOUR event and if it doesn't happen it'll be nobodies fault but yours, the people who haven't taken the time to pre enter and support Classic Dirt. There's a lot more at stake here than the future of the event, there are people who have put a lot more than their heart and soul into it that have been let down big time. Sure, some folks don't like the venue, others will blame the weather and others will blame the fact that they can't bring their pre 90 bike but, with legitimate exceptions, those excuses are a big cop out. The good people behind Classic Dirt have bent over backwards to make the event happen.......very few of you know the problems that faced them finding a venue after Conondale's tenure expired, very few of you know the investment, both financial and emotional that the organisers gamble with in the hope the meeting comes off. So can we please stop being so selfish and try and work together as a team to help save this great event?
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STOP IT..THE LOT OF YOU.. This is not the place or the time for name calling and philosophical grandstanding. This is YOUR event and if it doesn't happen it'll be nobodies fault but yours, the people who haven't taken the time to pre enter and support Classic Dirt. There's a lot more at stake here than the future of the event, there are people who have put a lot more than their heart and soul into it that have been let down big time. Sure, some folks don't like the venue, others will blame the weather and others will blame the fact that they can't bring their pre 90 bike but, with legitimate exceptions, those excuses are a big cop out. The good people behind Classic Dirt have bent over backwards to make the event happen.......very few of you know the problems that faced them finding a venue after Conondale's tenure expired, very few of you know the investment, both financial and emotional that the organisers gamble with in the hope the meeting comes off. So can we please stop being so selfish and try and work together as a team to help save this great event?
Here here Firko!
If there were more of us VMXer's standing together instead of carrying on like old hens in the outhouse, SOLUTIONS can be attained .
Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....
If you can't make it to CD, that's fair enough. We all have our reasons.
To start with arguments about "what if's" and "maybe's" is not helping anyone. Nobody asked anybody about what they think is their perceived problem. It is what it is and that should be it in a nutshell.
The organisers are simply asking that if you intend to go to CD10, then please just take the time to pre enter. Simple really ::)
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Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....
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Yeah, do as I say, not as I do!
Stand together as one, but do it my way!
forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism.”
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I don't really want to say it again, but it seems that I need to. ::)
Negative and selfish comments regarding Pre-90 not being at CD10 are counter productive to what we are trying to achieve and are not appreciated.
CD10's format is not going to change, so get over it. :o
Frankly, the verbal barrage we have been subjected to regarding Pre-90 has not helped your cause one iota. :-X
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forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism
Wow, what can I say? A lesson in socialism cut and pasted off Wikipedia is just what we all needed....thank you for sharing.
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Well I’m one of the slackers that fully intends to go but haven’t entered yet, will do so soon.
Still not sure if I will have my KDX back together so I may be looking for a sponsor. ;D
Lack of bike won’t hold me back though, if you haven’t experienced the ‘festival’ atmosphere of a CD yet then you haven’t fulfilled your life.
Can’t understand how anyone could not like the track last year, it was a fun track to ride and I look forward to having another blast.
And the weather, well that same freak storm that traveled through last year also went through Vic. as I recall the day before I left for CD having to wonder into the paddocks here to pick up some garden shed walls that had been blown several hundred metres into the paddocks.
We always take pot luck with the weather at any event.
Look forward to catching up with many of you there.
From the CD 2 flyer…
GREAT RIDING, NO RACING, NO POLITICS!
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Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....
Yeah, do as I say, not as I do!
Stand together as one, but do it my way!
forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism.”
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Here Here
Obviously people voting with their feet and staying away from what was last years abysmal effort no magoo bar, male toilets and showers overflowing with shit on saturday, and to top it off the dictatorship not allowing use of the female toilets.
Cmon guys this one event pays the wages for Ajay and Ken for the whole year please support it.
Hugo xxx
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Some people stubbornly over complicate even the simplest things in life.....
I don't see how working together can be classified as a dictatorship in any sense of the word.
All I'm suggesting is, when an opinion is asked for, then will be time to add ones two bob's worth. Any other time and it just goes against the grain of what is trying to be achieved, and that is, in this thread, a plea to please pre enter to save the event from collapse.
The organisers have set the cut off date and that should be it. They did the work and walked the walk so they are entitled to do as they see fit. Coming in at the 11th hour and trying to complicate a simple issue is not helping anyone.
Perhaps waiting until after CD10 to have the cut off date altered might get a result.... It ain't going to happen now!
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I personlly don`t have a problem with pre 90, and I feel that they should be excepted, the years are getting on now. it adds to the attmosphere of the event. let them enter for the weekend and after the weekend has finished cast your apinion on them later, i am sure the knockers will change their mine. The events like this needs to grow, there are more younger fellows coming to these events to look and they are the future of vmx. Back off and let them in, make the cut off Date pre90 and leave it and except it.
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Some of you people really depress me, you just don't get it. Please stop the negativity and get in and help. You'll all cry out like big babies if it's canned and it'll all be someone else's fault. AJ has already stated that Pre 90 isn't on the agenda right now so stop it and move on to support the great event we've got.
People often ask me why the corporate types don't put more money into the vintage game.
Shoey's got it in a nutshell. You blokes are your own worst enemy.
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sorry, I but I didn't think this event is just about bikes, I have meet some amazing people from all walks of life. drinking red wine while freezing your nuts off is not a highlight, but still fun.
If you don't have a bike catered for, just go and soak up the event.
this mind set of "WHAT ABOUT ME" puts the younger generation so far up their own backsides. stop your bitching and go back to kindy and learn the meaning of "NO"
cheers Worms,
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IMHO some of these threads are simply TOXIC and the negativity feeds on itself. I understand that the posts don't have to be read but everyone does anyway. Forum opinions don't make an event happen but they can certainly damage them.
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Ray Ryan will be turning in his grave listening to you bunch of 'Class A, gold-plated, diamond encrusted, self absorbed' whingers.
The entire ethos of Classic Dirt is about INCLUSION. It is open to all!!! No rules, just bring a smile, perhaps a mate, and pre85 bike if you've got one and have a great weekend.
It's supposed to be a Celebration of the camaraderie and mateship that exists in the hearts of those who love and support VMX.
Maybe Ray's dream has run its course? But if it has, it won't be his fault, nor will it be Ken's or Ajays or any of the countless volunteers that go out of their way to make the event happen.
Cheers,
VMX42
...and before anybody asks... every word above is MY opinion. Nobody elses. Nobody asked me to write it, or approved it before I did. So I am the one that thinks some of you guys are 'Class A, gold-plated, diamond encrusted, self absorbed' whingers. You know who you are... and I hope you're happy. Some people never know when they have got it good...
And if you think I am talking to you, then you are probably right... you should be ashamed!!!
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Absolutely right
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Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....
Yeah, do as I say, not as I do!
Stand together as one, but do it my way!
forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism.”
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Obviously people voting with their feet and staying away from what was last years abysmal effort no magoo bar, male toilets and showers overflowing with shit on saturday, and to top it off the dictatorship not allowing use of the female toilets.
Cmon guys this one event pays the wages for Ajay and Ken for the whole year please support it.
Hugo xxx
It's always nice to hear from you Hugo.
You seem to have conveniently forgotten that we GAVE AWAY beer after the local publican let us down with the bar.
As for the money that we make at CD, you clearly have no idea what an event of this nature costs, so why don't you do it yourself?
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OK entry is done and posted. Can I do anything to help. I can be available a few days before the event if you guys need a slave.
I will be talking to those who normally attend and asking them to enter.
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Thanks Slakewell! Looking forward to (hopefully) having a beer with you as usual. ;)
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If I'm selling a product that too few people are buying, is my best course of action to:
A) Tell people that they've got to come and buy the product,
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B) Ask people why they aren't buying my product,
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C) Get cranky at potential customers who let you know why they're not buying my product.
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D) Make an effort to positively promote my product?
I've been to four Classic Dirts, and had a great time at all of them - but if its missing the mark nowdays, then surely its worth stepping back and trying to address the problems?
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I have a 1/85 400 husky so I'me not allowed to come.
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I have a 1/85 400 husky so I'me not allowed to come.
Come with extra beer and no bike and give beer to nice people who may let you ride there bike. You can also ride Suzuki bikes as well
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AJ - maybe best - you have put it out there - raised everybodies awareness - now close the thread? What happens now is up to all those interested or not
Just a thought?
cheers
Rossco
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AJ - maybe best - you have put it out there - raised everybodies awareness - now close the thread? What happens now is up to all those interested or not
Just a thought?
cheers
Rossco
Good call Rosco (for once :D)
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Nathan has once again proven to us all that he doesn't know when to shut up. ::)
From my point of view, he should be held personally responsible for pushing back the cause of the Pre-90 brigade, because his harping, badgering, abuse, whinging etc... have really pissed us off. A more rational approach would have been advisable. ;)
Yes, thread will be locked now.