Suzuki Classic Dirt 10 - To be or not to be?

[09.0]

It's an unwritten law that vmxers have to have more than one or two bikes so go out and buy an older bike as in a pre 85 so you can take part. Or rather than be negative , how about you put a positive spin and say that you're keen but only have the later bikes. If you're a decent guy you will be able to take a bike or two of mine for a spin and u know others will offer the same.
Also I don't think the four or five pre 90 only guys that have been alienated by this terrible exclusion will help in making the event succeed or not.

[AjayVMX]

Exactly. 

Can we have no more discussion of Pre-90 in this thread please? 

That subject has been done to death elsewhere and nothing will change for CD10, whether it goes ahead or not.

[firko]

STOP IT..THE LOT OF YOU.. This is not the place or the time for name calling and philosophical grandstanding. This is YOUR event and if it doesn't happen it'll be nobodies fault but yours, the people who haven't taken the time to pre enter and support Classic Dirt. There's a lot more at stake here than the future of the event, there are people who have put a lot more than their heart and soul into it that have been let down big time. Sure, some folks don't like the venue, others will blame the weather and others will blame the fact that they can't bring their pre 90 bike but, with legitimate exceptions, those excuses are a big cop out. The good people behind Classic Dirt have bent over backwards to make the event happen.......very few of you know the problems that faced them finding a venue after Conondale's tenure expired, very few of you know the investment, both financial and emotional that the organisers gamble with in the hope the meeting comes off.  So can we please stop being so selfish and try and work together as a team to help save this great event?

[FourstrokeForever]

STOP IT..THE LOT OF YOU.. This is not the place or the time for name calling and philosophical grandstanding. This is YOUR event and if it doesn't happen it'll be nobodies fault but yours, the people who haven't taken the time to pre enter and support Classic Dirt. There's a lot more at stake here than the future of the event, there are people who have put a lot more than their heart and soul into it that have been let down big time. Sure, some folks don't like the venue, others will blame the weather and others will blame the fact that they can't bring their pre 90 bike but, with legitimate exceptions, those excuses are a big cop out. The good people behind Classic Dirt have bent over backwards to make the event happen.......very few of you know the problems that faced them finding a venue after Conondale's tenure expired, very few of you know the investment, both financial and emotional that the organisers gamble with in the hope the meeting comes off.  So can we please stop being so selfish and try and work together as a team to help save this great event?

Here here Firko!

If there were more of us VMXer's standing together instead of carrying on like old hens in the outhouse, SOLUTIONS can be attained .

Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....

If you can't make it to CD, that's fair enough. We all have our reasons.

To start with arguments about "what if's" and "maybe's" is not helping anyone. Nobody asked anybody about what they think  is their perceived problem. It is what it is and that should be it in a nutshell.

The organisers are simply asking that if you intend to go to CD10, then please just take the time to pre enter. Simple really 

[nada]

Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....
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Yeah, do as I say, not as I do!

Stand together as one, but do it my way!

forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism.”

 

[AjayVMX]

I don't really want to say it again, but it seems that I need to. 

Negative and selfish comments regarding Pre-90 not being at CD10 are counter productive to what we are trying to achieve and are not appreciated.

CD10's format is not going to change, so get over it. 

Frankly, the verbal barrage we have been subjected to regarding Pre-90 has not helped your cause one iota. 

[firko]

forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism

Wow, what can I say? A lesson in socialism cut and pasted off Wikipedia is just what we all needed....thank you for sharing.

[GMC]

Well I’m one of the slackers that fully intends to go but haven’t entered yet, will do so soon.
Still not sure if I will have my KDX back together so I may be looking for a sponsor.

Lack of bike won’t hold me back though, if you haven’t experienced the ‘festival’ atmosphere of a CD yet then you haven’t fulfilled your life.

Can’t understand how anyone could not like the track last year, it was a fun track to ride and I look forward to having another blast.

And the weather, well that same freak storm that traveled through last year also went through Vic. as I recall the day before I left for CD having to wonder into the paddocks here to pick up some garden shed walls that had been blown several hundred metres into the paddocks.
We always take pot luck with the weather at any event.

Look forward to catching up with many of you there.

From the CD 2 flyer…
GREAT RIDING, NO RACING, NO POLITICS!

[Sgt Hugo Stiglitz]

Ever heard of the old saying? UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.....

Yeah, do as I say, not as I do!

Stand together as one, but do it my way!

forking dictatorship! "Marxism is not only the theory of socialism, it is an integral world outlook, a philosophical system, from which Marx’s proletarian socialism logically follows. This philosophical system is called dialectical materialism.”
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Here Here

Obviously people voting with their feet and staying away from what was last years abysmal effort no magoo bar, male toilets and showers overflowing with shit on saturday, and to top it off the dictatorship not allowing use of the female toilets.

Cmon guys this one event pays the wages for Ajay and Ken for the whole year please support it.

Hugo xxx

[FourstrokeForever]

Some people stubbornly over complicate even the simplest things in life.....

I don't see how working together can be classified as a dictatorship in any sense of the word.

All I'm suggesting is, when an opinion is asked for, then will be time to add ones two bob's worth. Any other time and it just goes against the grain of what is trying to be achieved, and that is, in this thread, a plea to please pre enter to save the event from collapse.

The organisers have set the cut off date and that should be it. They did the work and walked the walk so they are entitled to do as they see fit. Coming in at the 11th hour and trying to complicate a simple issue is not helping anyone.

Perhaps waiting until after CD10 to have the cut off date altered might  get a result.... It ain't going to happen now!

[albrid-3]

I personlly don`t have a problem with pre 90, and I feel that they should be excepted, the years are getting on now. it adds to the attmosphere of the event. let them enter for the weekend and after the weekend has finished cast your apinion on them later, i am sure the knockers will change their mine. The events like this needs to grow, there are more younger fellows coming to these events to look and they are the future of vmx. Back off and let them in, make the cut off Date pre90 and leave it and except it.

[firko]

Some of you people really depress me, you just don't get it. Please stop the negativity and get in and help. You'll all cry out like big babies if it's canned and it'll all be someone else's fault. AJ has already stated that Pre 90 isn't on the agenda right now so stop it and move on to support the great event we've got.

People often ask me why the corporate types don't put more money into the vintage game.

Shoey's got it in a nutshell. You blokes are your own worst enemy.
 

[worms]

sorry, I but I didn't think this event is just about bikes, I have meet some amazing people from all walks of life. drinking red wine while freezing your nuts off is not a highlight, but still fun.

 If you don't have a bike catered for, just go and soak up the event.   

this mind set of "WHAT ABOUT ME" puts the younger generation so far up their own backsides. stop your bitching and go back to kindy and learn the meaning of "NO"

cheers Worms,

[Canam370]

IMHO some of these threads are simply TOXIC and the negativity feeds on itself. I understand that the posts don't have to be read but everyone does anyway. Forum opinions don't make an event happen but they can certainly damage them.

[vmx42]

Ray Ryan will be turning in his grave listening to you bunch of 'Class A, gold-plated, diamond encrusted, self absorbed' whingers.

The entire ethos of Classic Dirt is about INCLUSION. It is open to all!!! No rules, just bring a smile, perhaps a mate, and pre85 bike if you've got one and have a great weekend.

It's supposed to be a Celebration of the camaraderie and mateship that exists in the hearts of those who love and support VMX.

Maybe Ray's dream has run its course? But if it has, it won't be his fault, nor will it be Ken's or Ajays or any of the countless volunteers that go out of their way to make the event happen.

Cheers,
VMX42






...and before anybody asks... every word above is MY opinion. Nobody elses. Nobody asked me to write it, or approved it before I did. So I am the one that thinks some of you guys are 'Class A, gold-plated, diamond encrusted, self absorbed' whingers. You know who you are... and I hope you're happy. Some people never know when they have got it good...

And if you think I am talking to you, then you are probably right... you should be ashamed!!!