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Marketplace => For Sale => Topic started by: Rossvickicampbell on February 25, 2013, 07:02:16 pm
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Bill - do you know this one?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-565666146.htm
cheers
Rossco
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nice bike wish i had a spare 14 grand
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$11,400 AUD + shipping etc.
Maybe my gay mate with the fluro JT gear could look after it for me ;D
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Rosco that's the pot calling kettle black
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Hey Ross , no its the first i have seen of it :)
Nice bike though
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Rosco that's the pot calling kettle black
More like that's the pot calling the kettle magenta..
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Rosco that's the pot calling kettle black
More like that's the pot calling the kettle magenta..
Coming from the king of gear that's a compliment Elvis.
Ross I hope all that time with the ladyboys in Asia hasn't turned you even more bent?
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you know what they say Craigy!
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Yep that is really nice, pardon my ignorance - are these 360's based on a 250 and bored/ stroked with the mugen kit or something else?
Brett
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Same stroke as the 250 Brett with a big bore cylinder and head and the balance factor changed on the crank to suit the heavier piston. The kit also had beefed up stronger 2nd and 3rd gears but most 360 Mugens around now weren't built from complete kits and are just big bore cylinders bolted onto a std 250 bottom end.
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Excuse my ignorance, but aside from a barrel (& piston) and matching crank, is that all this bike has that allows it to be called a Mugen? Is that no different to buying a stock commodore, bolting on some parts and calling it a HSV Clubsport?
Please correct me if I'm out of line, but is the bike not stock standard CR250 with a different top end, a late model Swingarm of unknown origin (owners description) and a set of period fox forks and shocks. Is it not misleading to advertise the bike as a Honda Mugen ME360 VMX 1979 when it's not?
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I think that its advertised as a Honda Mugen ME 360
And that the first line of the specifications says
1979 Honda CR 250
And the second line says
Mugen Me 360 Kit
Sort of covers it
But i get your point ;)
I dont imagine anyone paying the sort of money hes asking would do so without understanding what their buying .
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A lot of people call a 360 cylinder and head a Mugen kit, the kit also contained a Mugen pipe which was a stamped pipe like the std 250 pipe but different dimensions. This bike doesn't have a Mugen pipe so I doubt it has the rest of the kit fitted either.
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I have an engine with 360 piston which we've fitted into a standard cylinder, done the head & crank mods as well. The bike will have DG swing arm, GMC 360 pipe & RC style alloy tank. What should I call it? I also have an engine with a turbo crank, what can we call that one?
K
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Call it a YOSHIMURA HONDA MUGEN BIGKDGGMCRC 360
It will walk out the door for 35 K
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Call it what it is bigk
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Mugen bikes were initially/mainly kitted bikes - it is a kitted bike.
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I have an engine with 360 piston which we've fitted into a standard cylinder, done the head & crank mods as well. The bike will have DG swing arm, GMC 360 pipe & RC style alloy tank. What should I call it? I also have an engine with a turbo crank, what can we call that one?
K
1. Honda BK360 kitted bike
2. Honda CR250 TURBO
;D
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Call it a YOSHIMURA HONDA MUGEN BIGKDGGMCRC 360
It will walk out the door for 35 K
Close Ted but it should be called a Mugen Honda BigKDGGMCRC 360 TURBO ... and will walk out the door at $35K ;D
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Mugen bikes were initially/mainly kitted bikes - it is a kitted bike.
A kitted bike would have the correct mugen pipe..
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Mugen bikes were initially/mainly kitted bikes - it is a kitted bike.
A kitted bike would have the correct mugen pipe..
And gear set and clutch springs. The big problem is the standard gears. They break with the kitted bike, same as the kickstart idle gear. All are beefed up with the full kit.
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Still a nice bike from what ever angle with what ever name.
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The front and back end is rather nice. If anyone wants a set of replica yokes for 44 or 43mm forks, I know where there are some and now with the stem so it's a bolt on affair. Press the stem into the lower yoke and use your Honda bearing adjuster and top nut. So if you want a later beefier 43mm front end with the better brake in your CR250 and while you are there have some exotic yokes to pull it all together on your pride and joy then PM me! New shoxs can also be build from a stash of NOS parts that have been found, so fill your boots!
Wasnt someone in Nz making the shoxs and forks? Thought I read that somewhere. Does this bike have original or the new ones that were under construction in NZ? Any ideas how that project is going? It was mentioned on here a while ago. Quite a bit of smoke and mirrors which I didnt understand...
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Mugen bikes were initially/mainly kitted bikes - it is a kitted bike.
A kitted bike would have the correct mugen pipe..
And gear set and clutch springs. The big problem is the standard gears. They break with the kitted bike, same as the kickstart idle gear. All are beefed up with the full kit.
Exactly Brad, as I said earlier a lot of the 360's getting around only have a mugen top end fitted.. In my opinion they're not near as collectible as the real deal with the full kit fitted.
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I seem to recall there were only around 10? full mugen bikes made?
But lots of people built /building kit bikes, of which this one looks to be a pretty good example.
Would be hard to see it fetching this kind of money in todays climate.
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Would be hard to see it fetching this kind of money in todays climate.
Interesting collection of bits though, quite like the alloy airbox
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Would be hard to see it fetching this kind of money in todays climate.
Interesting collection of bits though, quite like the alloy airbox
Yeah it's definitely a nice bike, just a lot of money for what it is..
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yeah don't argue with that JO - but it may not be a fully kitted bike but is closer than many got! I had also heard with the 360 kit the gearbox was an issue.
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I had a nice genuine Moto-x Fox 360 Mugen a while back Ross and didn't have any gearbox issues with it.. Another bike I probably should've kept!
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Would be hard to see it fetching this kind of money in todays climate.
Yes it would.
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Mugen bikes were initially/mainly kitted bikes - it is a kitted bike.
A kitted bike would have the correct mugen pipe..
And gear set and clutch springs. The big problem is the standard gears. They break with the kitted bike, same as the kickstart idle gear. All are beefed up with the full kit.
Exactly Brad, as I said earlier a lot of the 360's getting around only have a mugen top end fitted.. In my opinion they're not near as collectible as the real deal with the full kit fitted.
But if it was a full Mugen at 11.5 K AUS we would all be fighting over buying it! the other thing with Mugen you would need the history of the bike (a named rider of the day who had ridden it) that usually gets the price up. Plus what is the condition of the cylinder / piston would need to be good for that type of cash one would think?
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I hear what you're saying Shane but you could buy a 360 top end for $2000 and put it on a nice $7000 250RZ and have a 360 Mugen for $9000!
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I hear what you're saying Shane but you could buy a 360 top end for $2000 and put it on a nice $7000 250RZ and have a 360 Mugen for $9000!
Exactly
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And still have the std parts for collectors sake johnny. I would love to trade one of my bikes for a 250rz in any case. They are a pretty bike as one vmx fello once said to me. (Bruce mcfarland)
Brett
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sometimes JO I could kill you - moving on a MotoX Fox 360 - blasphemy :'(
Would be nice to see - any photos. There weren't many of those around were there?
And - how many Mugen top ends have you seen for $2K.
Also shouldn't forget the fox forx and shocks. A set of fox forx are not cheap are they?
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I factored those prices in on what I've seen the parts selling for in the US and UK Ross.
Yes the Mugen should've been a keeper but I'd just built a 490 maico and preferred it to ride and I got a good offer on the mugen.. there were none around back then.