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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Marc.com on July 17, 2011, 05:48:17 pm

Title: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on July 17, 2011, 05:48:17 pm
Well its been a bit of a while since the old 125 came out of its box, like any good build it has about 50 more things to do, like finding the &^^% brake arms/ ;D

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_5125.jpg)
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Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: JohnnyO on July 17, 2011, 06:13:34 pm
Lookin good, still not sold on that swingarm though...
Is that a 250 tank you're using?
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Davey Crocket on July 17, 2011, 06:21:16 pm
Well you know my thoughts on the swingarm but it is starting to look good......change the front guard to a peston petty one and your almost home. ;D.....needs a alloy rear brake rod aswell!!.....and a 84 Suzuki alloy gearlever......dont do 1/2 a job.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: oldfart on July 17, 2011, 07:25:29 pm
Who made your pipe .....It's different .
The swing arm adds character to it , I like it
 Front guard definitely needs to be changed . 
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: steve7406 on July 17, 2011, 08:14:50 pm
markfx that muffler looks good on the bike thanks for the leed on where you got it i ordered one the same place hope to get it in a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on July 17, 2011, 08:50:51 pm
Yeah I am using 250/370 tank and someone has to love that swingarm  ;D
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Slakewell on July 17, 2011, 09:10:53 pm
I like the swingarm , nobody else will have one  ;D , IMO I would try and paint it and see if it improved. Is that kick starter correct?
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Davey Crocket on July 17, 2011, 09:31:00 pm
Thats the genuine kickstarter......not the AG bike one that people put on.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on July 17, 2011, 10:07:00 pm
motor was original bore and $150, frame $80 so while not being budget build is not that crazy/ I think the arm needs a good polish
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on July 31, 2011, 06:34:53 pm
I like the swingarm , nobody else will have one  ;D , IMO I would try and paint it and see if it improved. Is that kick starter correct?

We coated it grey one time and it looked like shit.... thinking black, or gold tough choice
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: frostype400 on July 31, 2011, 07:34:29 pm
I'd go black on the swingarm for sure would look good. ;)
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: shelpi on August 01, 2011, 12:49:53 pm
TRICK LOOKING RM, YES FRONT GAURDS GOT TO GO, BUT THE REST IS AN ABSALUTE CREDIT TO YOU, WELL DONE.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: huskibul on August 01, 2011, 03:48:52 pm
    Imo bike look's good ! but looks to me like the back of the front guard would catch the  tyre on full compression because of the header being so short and high compared to original ,  maybe need to trim and adjust the guard (or replace with trimmed Tony D ;)  ! iam with frosty on painting the "God Arm" black might mellow it a bit   :) 
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: lukeb1961 on August 01, 2011, 04:30:32 pm
If you are going to fit something like that arm, you leave it silver and visible.
else get rid of it...

bike looks OK as is, if you get rid of the huge seat logo, the poxy handlebars, the hideously anti-social joke muffler and the ugly blue of the shocks.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: firko on August 01, 2011, 04:36:55 pm
Fu*k em all Marc. The bike's just fine as it is.  ;) It's the bike you built. Let 'em build their own cookie cutter "mine's the same as yours" bikes and you go on building what you want, how you want it. ::)
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Freakshow on August 01, 2011, 04:43:09 pm
i have always wondered if it would have been better if the arm was fitted in the other way around ? surely it would have more travel that way.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: LWC82PE on August 01, 2011, 05:18:04 pm
The bike looks trick with the period aftermarket bits so i reckon you should just leave it as it is or just do it how you want. I like the silver swingarm and dont see any point in hiding it with black paint. I'm not sure what brand the front fender is but it does not look that terrible and i'm not sure what the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: GMC on August 01, 2011, 06:48:35 pm
i have always wondered if it would have been better if the arm was fitted in the other way around ? surely it would have more travel that way.

You must know some tricks to fitting swingarms that I'm not aware of ???
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: oldfart on August 01, 2011, 06:59:16 pm
I think Freaky is talking about rotating it  ;D
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Mike52 on August 01, 2011, 07:38:26 pm

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=SBdeDouhqe8n3hrH
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: LWC82PE on August 01, 2011, 07:44:35 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HALLMAN-BANANA-ALUMINUM-SWINGARM-TT500-TT-500-XT500-XT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2565ebd648QQitemZ160623744584QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

seller has a few other swingarms and TT stuff too
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 03, 2011, 11:02:02 am
Yeah I have White Brothers Banana arm lying about in my war chest.... will build another bike about it but not necessarily a TT500 with long suspension..... DR400 maybe
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: firko on August 03, 2011, 11:45:17 am
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have always wondered if it would have been better if the arm was fitted in the other way around ? surely it would have more travel that way.
??? ??? How does that work Freaky?
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I think Freaky is talking about rotating it 
Maybe it's the morphine kicking in but I can't get my head around what he means. If he means flipping it over, you'd get a bike you'd need a step ladder to climb aboard with no increase in travel and a totally illogical shock angle. If he means turning it around so the axle end becomes the pivot end, I ...errrr, I'm lost for words ::)
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 03, 2011, 12:44:29 pm
Maybe it's the morphine kicking in but I can't get my head around what he means. If he means flipping it over, you'd get a bike you'd need a step ladder to climb aboard

Its the morphine Firko, go easy on that Oxycontin ( Hillbilly Heroin) or you will end up like ole Liz Taylor.... anyways the shear genius of that swingarm is you have a heap of possible shock mounting holes, flipped or sunny side up you have a position for all occasions.... like me when I was a young bloke growing up in the country  ;D
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 20, 2011, 07:09:28 pm
Preston Petty front guard on and pretty as a picture ;D

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_5279.jpg)
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Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: flower pot racing on August 20, 2011, 07:30:48 pm
Fu*k em all Marc. The bike's just fine as it is.  ;) It's the bike you built. Let 'em build their own cookie cutter "mine's the same as yours" bikes and you go on building what you want, how you want it. ::)

I was starting to think that.  I am no Suzuki expert, but it looks fine to me.  Maybe a Tony D guard would look nicer, but the one that's on there looks ok to me.

If it was a NOS special that has taken 15 years to get ever last shim correct then it wouldnt hit that target.  As a race bike I think it looks ace.

Good for you
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: oldfart on August 20, 2011, 07:38:27 pm
Much bettera ;D     holy snappin duck shit that turbo is jinormus.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: vmx42 on August 20, 2011, 07:55:03 pm
Marc,
It would look so much better without the dodgy Simons ignition cover. I know they are rare - but too much yellow.

Magnesium is much cooler.

And the PP looks heaps better.
VMX42




P.S. now show us some pics when it gets dirty…
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 20, 2011, 10:36:50 pm
I was starting to think that.  I am no Suzuki expert, but it looks fine to me.  Maybe a Tony D guard would look nicer, but the one that's on there looks ok to me.

If it was a NOS special that has taken 15 years to get ever last shim correct then it wouldnt hit that target.  As a race bike I think it looks ace.

Good for you

That is a Tony D guard must be the angle ..... anyway it was built on the cheap from a pile of bits I already had to actually use, I like to keep a balance between riders and trailer queens. 
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Doc on August 20, 2011, 11:09:12 pm
All I'd add is a couple of FMF stickers, love that head but the rest of it looks pretty cool too. Very nice 8)
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: firko on August 21, 2011, 01:22:34 am
Marc you could always paint the fugly yellow Simons ignition cover a slick titanium colour to dazzle the troops.
I've found a Kia colour that matches my idea of what titanium looks like,  it's a sort of silvery grey with a tint of beige that can only be seen at dusk on a low sunset :D.....I'm going to paint a whole frame the colour as soon as I can get the paint mixed and matched. The Merlot's kicked in so I'm off to bed, good night John Boy..wherever you are.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 21, 2011, 07:08:38 am
Marc you could always paint the fugly yellow Simons ignition cover a slick titanium colour to dazzle the troops.

Hey Firko titanium frame huh.... you been mixing the Oxycontin with the Merlot again. Lucky I am not a sensitive soul or I may have taken the idea of painting a NOS rare Simons ignition cover black, or my nice PM shocks anything other than blue..... Alison is on the Merlot as well.

Don't tempt me I may spray the whole bike Chameleon so it tints red to green if I am pushed too far.  ;D
Hmmm I feel a parts swap coming on.

Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: firko on August 21, 2011, 11:22:35 am
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Don't tempt me I may spray the whole bike Chameleon so it tints red to green if I am pushed too far. 
I like it...a Rabbitoe RM!
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 21, 2011, 12:08:05 pm
I think I have more money in the Simons that the rest of the bike..... for $150 original bore motor and $80 frame it came together .... the FMF head is missing some teeth but another $200 purchase and has  date with the welder. Not really into 125s, but tripped over the motor and decided to build a friend for my 370.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 21, 2011, 12:18:30 pm
Much bettera ;D     holy snappin duck shit that turbo is jinormus.

No this is a real mans turbocharger ..... TPL91B, 18 cubic feet a second and 5.0 compression ratio, makes the shop compressor look a bit sick. Rotor weighs about 2.5 tonnes, compressor wheel costs about the same as a new Porsche.

The current class of container ships being built are twin sked hull design, have 18000-20000 sea containers and 3 of these bad boys per engine.

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/tpl91b01pn7.jpg)
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: firko on August 21, 2011, 12:25:36 pm
I reckon it's a cool bike. As much as our sport needs the proper concourse resto bikes, they're often an extremely expensive undertaking....just ask Ted. Bike's like Marcs little RM and Yamaico's KLX/DT 400 el Cheapo show that you don't have to double mortgage to build a competitive and interesting bike. That ugly step sister swingarm makes Marcs bike even more interesting. I'd much rather see those eBay orphan parts go into making a complete bike than to keep getting regurgitated on the eBay merry-go-round.
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 21, 2011, 01:51:21 pm
I'd much rather see those eBay orphan parts go into making a complete bike than to keep getting regurgitated on the eBay merry-go-round.

Yeah I like the after market stuff and find NOS builds as boring as bat shit. But that's just my taste, I get excited about a fugly swinger in the same way that someone else gets excited about a NOS 73 Elsinore tank breather tube.....they are part of MX history

Important thing for me is the finish should be detailed down to the fasteners and clamps etc ..... nothing looks worse than a VMXer strung together with stainless socket screws

Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: lukeb1961 on August 21, 2011, 02:13:15 pm
The current class of container ships being built are twin sked hull design, have 18000-20000 sea containers and 3 of these bad boys per engine.
small engines.. only 1820 litres PER cylinder!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4-Sulzer_RTA96-C
yes, someone really does have a 25,000 litre engine...
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Doc on August 21, 2011, 05:25:02 pm
I'd hate to imagine what a new set of rings are worth :D
Title: Re: Swingarm of the Gods has risen again
Post by: Marc.com on August 21, 2011, 06:56:14 pm
small engines.. only 1820 litres PER cylinder!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4-Sulzer_RTA96-C
yes, someone really does have a 25,000 litre engine...

MAN is the dominant company, used to be 50/50 with Sulzer but now MAN B&W own iit

this is the heads and fuel injection gear of a big engine, 1 meter bored 3 meters of stroke roughly.
http://www.mandieselturbo.com/0000869/Products/Power-Plant-Engines/2-stroke-engine.html