Pre 90 VMX

[All Things 414]

ThaNK gOD FOR THAT that!

[JohnnyO]

ThaNK gOD FOR THAT that!

Ha.. that's the pot calling the kettle black.
I'd hate to think what we'd be riding if you had anything to do with the rules!

[mxmaniac]

ThaNK gOD FOR THAT that!

Ha.. that's the pot calling the kettle black.
I'd hate to think what we'd be riding if you had anything to do with the rules!

we would have plenty of track time!

[JohnnyO]

Looking at the riders list i don't see Hitlers name anywhere. What happened, did the Evo bike break down?

[mxmaniac]

Hitler only races for fun, has raced once this year and has other things on the go. He couldn't stand to see that protest flag gettin worn out by all the girls up there

[JohnnyO]

Protest flag?? WTF is that? No such thing in Qld.
All the noise about not liking the rules is comin from down there.

[mxmaniac]

  Our racing down here is very healthy, everyone has a blast, lots of laps and plenty of bar banging.. couldn't ask for any better.. Dont hear any complaints from me..

[JohnnyO]

  Our racing down here is very healthy, everyone has a blast, lots of laps and plenty of bar banging.. couldn't ask for any better.. Dont hear any complaints from me..

Good to hear, much the same up here.
Always loved riding down at Barrabool when they had Evo's in the Thumper Nats.

[NSR]

Ok lets just say at a club level run what you want.
But at a OZnats level, the bike's should match the class, the rules and INTENT of the rule's were written for.
Cheers
Noel

[evo550]

I haven't taken the time to read this whole thread, like any good mag, I start at the back page and flip through the pages until I get to the front.
So I'm not sure if there has been any explanation for the "No ride up" rule. This one has been around QVMX forever now, it was originally insigated in the days before pre '85 and '90 and maybe even before pre '78. When riding up was accepted practice, there was a rumbling from the evo ranks (and rightly so) that guys coming on there pre '70 bikes paid the same entry fee and got to ride their class plus the two above them, but  the evo guys had no where to "ride up" too. So someone was getting more rides than someone else for the same sign on fee.
What was the solution to this problem? Initally they tried charging an extra $5 per class to ride the same bike in more than one class, that didn't go down well, so the "no ride up" rule was bought in, so everyone got the same bang for their buck, plus "all in" races where added to the program to satisfy those who just couldn't get enough.
Got any better ideas?

[suzuki43]

Bazza thanks mate we are on the case Liz

[holeshot buddy]

if everyone in evo 250 and open
rode up in pre85
what would be the point of having pre85
may as well call it evo a evo b
same deal for pre 78 and pre 90
sure if you have a club day and the numbers are down do what you like
we dont have ride up at our club days as we normally get good numbers
and just run in designated classes
the nats are different not a club day
90 % of riders abide by this rule its just the few who want to stir the pot
how hard is it its not rocket science
pre85 mainly linkage and watercooled
most husky riders ride evo anyway
okay say we let all the evo open guys ride up in pre 85 at the nats
they would all have to qualify because of increased numbers
and a lot of riders would miss out
imagine if you were a pre85 rider it was your only bike and you didnt qualify
because a heap of evo riders who have ridden up pushed you out
and if they dont qualify it doesnt matter they can still race in evo
like i said club days ok nats no

[motomaniac]

Protest flag?? WTF is that? No such thing in Qld.
All the noise about not liking the rules is comin from down there.

Johnny O read through again , read the above post from QLD read 090 from QLD.All things 414, mxmaniac, motomaniac and Kaw440 are all victorians who say that  PRE 85 bike is a PRE 85 bike is a PRE 85 bike.
090.Holeshot buddy and few others from QLD seem to think that a PRE85 bike is not a PRE 85 bike if it happens to also be an EVO bike.They also seem to think that an EVO bike riding in the PRE 85 class is riding up a class.Which it is not because the PRE 85 class isnt a linkage bike class it is a PRE 85 class.The only bikes that could ride up a class into pre 85 are pre 78 and lower bikes.Any bike evo or not that is not a pre 78 bike and not a pre 90 bike is a pre 85 bike.Thats how the GCR'S are at the moment .So whats the problem with your mates ? The Victorians aren't jumping up and down about this the QLDers are.The Victorians aren't jumping up and down about riding one bike in two class's - the QLDers came up with that.
090 Brad wants to preserve an era and doesn't want evo bikes racing pre 85 yet from 1980 to 1984 linkage bikes and evo bikes co existed and raced side by side.

The Victorians that I mention are saying preserve the era by all means - that means preserving it as it was.

By the way #54 who won two class's on one bike last year does have two open class evo Maico's so if he wanted to ride both evo and pre 85 like last year the one bike pre class rule wouldn't have stopped him as someone else hinted at earlier.
JohhnO maybe you should come down here for some fun racing  -0-- strictly by the GCR's of course.

[holeshot buddy]

what i was saying is if you want to enter a maico 490
or a husky or a hybrid whatever in pre 85 thats ok
but you cant ride down a class in evo  
you must ride in pre 85 on the day
the fact is you say maicos and yz465s and huskys competed against
linkage watercooled  bikes in 82 83 84 if thats the case
then i can ride my 83 kx500 in evo
but i cant because of the rules
that period was when i raced
i dont remember anyone racing twin shock after 82
apart from a few rare huskys
the majority were on single shock
and i raced in victoria
from 78 to 91

[NSR]

They also seem to think that an EVO bike riding in the PRE 85 class is riding up a class.

Which it is not because the PRE 85 class isnt a linkage bike class it is a PRE 85

So why have an EVO class?  More rides I guess.
Your grid for the PRE85 250 race must have 60-70 bikes in it. ours would.
Cheers
Noel