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just bikes page 28 harley 250
« on: June 30, 2009, 12:06:10 pm »
just bikes mag page 28 what  is it
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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 12:41:20 pm »
just bikes mag page 28 what  is it $1950.00

hideously over priced and nothing special...... Harley produced a bunch of trail bikes and even a scooter along the way through their Italian connection with Aermachii during the AMF years. AMF missed the real value of Harley which is brand value and tried building bikes with bowling alley tolerances and quality control.

Finally AMF decided they didn't know anything about building motorcycles and Harleys recievers agreed and the whole lot was sold to a bunch of investment bankers who could also ride harleys. Harley fixed its quality went back to being an icon and making money untainted by trying to enter new markets until the VRod turned up.

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 01:36:58 pm »
Looks like somebody's attempt to make the dud trailbike into a dirt bike

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 01:45:37 pm »
I have an MX250 HD champion frame for that motor if you buy it.
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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 01:47:45 pm »
That's a 2k piece of shite. I suspect it's a 175 Harley. It's a different engine to the Harley MXer Freaky. Want to sell the Champion mate?

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 02:08:12 pm »
how much for the frame

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 02:18:16 pm »
Freaky i've got a Harley MX250 and my engine will fit straight in. That trail bike engine is not the same as the MX. Looks like everyone wants your frame.. so how much?

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 02:29:00 pm »
you coulnd.t possibly contemplate pulling  the engine outa the mxer john could you????????

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 02:35:27 pm »
I would only do it for the occasional dirt track race, but would rather keep the MX complete. Just a thought...

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 02:40:23 pm »
whats it worth ::)

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 02:42:29 pm »
No idea

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 05:35:36 pm »
Not sure what its worth, guess it depends on what you want it for,  but i know what a Yamaha champions worth.  Depending on the Nickel and on how early the number sequense is start at  $1K and work up from there for finish, welds, straightness, provinence and above all correct mounts and stamps  ( you'd be surprised how many where modded for the next years motor or another sponsors brand)

i Have a few guys in the US pinging me for it, seems they are having a HD - MX250 Dirt tracker revival ATM in the states, a few more making the rounds over there and a lot of "show and shine style fair happening for some reason.  Seems a lot of kit is going back to the US, and the guys over there are getting cranking at folks who are taking them out, i copped some shit from some bloke a while back who started mouthing off i was stealing there heritage.   WtF - i said if anything they are jap motors so you stole it from them, seems i attract trouble  :(

any how - Not that many A/M frames where made in numbers for the HD 2 smokers as they were not that great a donk for the average punters, given most where aparently made up of Sx and MX parts left over in company sell offs, italian time frames and the results of the lack of sales.  if i recall some champ frames where just made up or should i say converted at the factory and stamped for same, i think the set out on the engine mounts is the same or very similar to the YZ/Dt style, and as they wanted to clear out floor stock of the frames they had made up.  ( money issues also) the only carried a few to order, boss, redline and others also made some frames up to order.  Veried success happend over the short miles right up till the 80's even against the water cooled but i dont think it really had the support on the ground, although Jay springsteen won an astro on one in a short track If i recall with a trackmaster frame for the little HD making appearances but then again he was ridding the XR 750's so with full factory support he wouldnt be riding anything else.   

If you look at Niel keens or Gary nixon 70's catolougues they dont list the HD as an options, however the 4130 chromo frames where made up and Do have the HD2 stamp and ### numbers, also have the later 3 position shock arms, etc etc in the 77-80 era so they where made up to suit but im thinking they only made the motors for 3 years then pulled the pin so there would be a few basket cases out there, mix and match motors, frame even modded stock frames too.  Got to say that the orange looks good though on glass  ;D

But Save your pennies, these frames arent a  cheap option just for a knock up of something, or to mock up with some other donk you have sitting around you'd only be going down this track if your serious about building something special, otherwise Truly its just a waste of a rare frame.   

which is why i have done nothing with it.  :-\
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 07:53:14 pm by Freakshow »
74 Yamaha YZ's - 75 Yamaha YZ's
74 Yamaha  flattracker's
70  Jawa 2 valve speedway's

For sale -  PRE 75 Yamaha MX stuff, frame, motors and parts also some YAM DT1,2,A and Suzi TS bikes and stuff

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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 06:10:43 pm »
That trail bike engine is not the same as the MX.

Quite true the trail bikes are designated SX, the trail bike up to 250 did have a couple of cool features, from memory the 125-250 used the same bottom end and cylinder, so liner thickness is no problem in the 125.... when it cold seized you had plenty of meat for rebores. ;D

Still at the time AMFs road bikes were not much improvement, shoddy quality meant they produced Friday afternoon quality all week long.  ;D



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Re: just bikes page 28 harley 250
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2009, 08:34:53 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV_zB1TiOjE&feature=related - ooops ....well that kills his statement, makes more than few over here then  :D
« Last Edit: July 02, 2009, 08:36:52 pm by Freakshow »
74 Yamaha YZ's - 75 Yamaha YZ's
74 Yamaha  flattracker's
70  Jawa 2 valve speedway's

For sale -  PRE 75 Yamaha MX stuff, frame, motors and parts also some YAM DT1,2,A and Suzi TS bikes and stuff