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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #750 on: May 26, 2012, 12:23:35 am »
there's no way it's pre 65 legal.

Due to tank,sideplates and plastic mudguards ?
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« Reply #751 on: May 26, 2012, 12:04:25 pm »
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Due to tank,sideplates and plastic mudguards ?
I had another look and it's legal Alison. Frank's a bit sketchy about when they first Starmaker motor in the Sprite which gave me doubts. All good now.
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #752 on: May 26, 2012, 12:35:59 pm »
Still looks a bit too well-endowed in the rear shock travel dept, all the same...
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #753 on: May 26, 2012, 02:42:13 pm »
Dave well the motor is DT1 but the frame is not Yamaha from any that Ive seen . the triple clamps look Bultaco ish . front hub looks Dt1 . more photos please Dave
« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 02:44:09 pm by iainyz »
Yamaha tragic ; dt1, rt1, dt2, rt2, dt2mx , rt2mx , mx250, mx360,sc500, 74dt125, yzx125, yzc250, yzc400, yzd250, yzd400, yzh250, yzh80 , dt100 , xr75 ko xr80 03 , it175 82 . Not a member of any club

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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #754 on: May 26, 2012, 02:46:46 pm »
Belay that about hubs, brake stay rules out DT1 .
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Re: Sprite/Alron/American Eagle
« Reply #755 on: May 26, 2012, 03:13:45 pm »


Made in Birmingham UK Dave and yes its a Sprite kit frame ~Well done  :P


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The blue bike is a 250 ossa that hasn't been found 
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #756 on: May 26, 2012, 03:56:43 pm »
Dave, you've got an early 'pre fastback' Sprite/American Eagle frame with a DT1 Yamaha motor. I hate to spoil your excitement but the forks aren't Ceriani's, they're either REH or more likely Sprite forks which were a cheap knock off of REH. The best way of knowing is by pulling the triple clamps off the bike and seeing if they have a proper head stem (REH) or a bit of threaded rod (Sprite).The front hub is REH or possibly some Italian thing or other.
The Yamaha motor is a vast improvement on the Sprite engine that probably lived in there and probably better than the Villiers Starmaker too ;D. The problem with this engine swap is that the Sprite frame is a real heavyweight, much heavier than the DT1 frame, much like when I fitted an XL Honda motor into a Montesa King Scorpion lardmaster, way heavier than the original XL unit.

 I hope you didn'y pay too much mate ::)
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #757 on: May 26, 2012, 05:07:08 pm »
Terrific pickup Dave

The roller looks like it is all early Sprite even the DT motor is pre reed model

The pipe looks to me a cut up Montesa model   :-\


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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #758 on: May 26, 2012, 05:33:21 pm »
Dave

This would have to be close to the frame kit    ;D






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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #759 on: May 26, 2012, 06:16:14 pm »
 I'm confused,  Didn't DT1s have the 'enduro' twin plug head like the RT1?
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #760 on: May 26, 2012, 06:39:44 pm »
Dave

The photo of the Sprite is label 1967

The DT1 had a blank plug next to the s/plug hole side by side    :-\

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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #761 on: May 26, 2012, 07:54:03 pm »
Dave I think you will find the DT1 head is a later than 70 head as all the stock heads had twin plugs .
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #762 on: May 26, 2012, 11:24:38 pm »
The engine/head all seems to be original piston port DT1 stuff. The more I look at the bike the more I like it Dave. I've got the exact same roller under the house which will eventually recieve a 360 Maico square barrel engine to build a replica of the '68 Sprite Maico raced by Terry Chalinor in the day. Frank Hipkin's given me the specs and encouragement to build it but it's about 5 down the current production line. The front hub has me bamboozled though. I thought they used a conical hub originally but Franks kit photo submitted by VMX60 shows it with a full width so what would I know??? ::)
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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #763 on: May 27, 2012, 12:00:08 am »
Firko

Maybe its a very early GYT  Yamaha kit top end single plug and that long inlet block to give a bit of pulling power

Wow might even have a chrome bore with the one ring piston Rare as ;D

Still love to have that in my shed

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Re: Sprite-UK/American Eagle-USA /Alron-AUST
« Reply #764 on: May 27, 2012, 09:18:49 am »
Excellent find Dave. I've often tho't - why doesn't somebody put a Yam engine in one of these Sprite frames?