Eligilibty scrutineer at the Nationals

[bazza]

That honda sure was fast, was it poweroll kit or 185cc internals?

[Phil]

I'm surprised you're bragging Allbrid. That was a pretty shameful bit of out and out cheating and it deprived one of the sports true good blokes Mick Cram of his moment of glory picking up the only trophy he'd ever won at the Nats. I don't know how the bike got through scrutineering. The XR200 engine was spotted by a half pissed Kiwi competitor in the dark after the racing was over from halfway accross the pits!

[Bamford#69]

   One of the problems the scrutineers have to deal with is not only the safety aspect of scrutineering , ie; safe bikes , but also the eligibilty of each bike , even though the scrutineers at this level are  very experienced in VMXing it  is unrealistic to expect that they know all the brands presented to them at scutineering( also there is a long line in front of them waiting  for approval) , maybe we as riders should start to take a positive step to ease the burden faced by all scrutineers, M.A issued log books, that have bikes confirmed as eligible well before race day, by an eligibilty comittee who are known Builders or recognised experts in that particular brand , model , no one person can have all  that combined  knowledge,( although quite a few claim too,)
   Historic racing have log books , speedway does , it would remove the problem  of eligibilty on race day and the dissapointment of the  riders who build their bikes within the  Rules ,but are disadvantaged by those who don't )    no log book, no racing .

[colmoody]

Hey albrid-3 can you set the record straight on this and put us all out of our misery. I was'nt there on the day and dont know anyone whom was, in fact all I do know about this is your last post and Old Phil's last post.

[GD66]

Tell you what, Jikov, the last thing you need or want in VMX is logbooks. They have been in historic roadracing for years and it's an absolute waste of time. Without going into it at great length, some have finagled dodgy bikes through, and others have had seemingly eligible bikes knocked back. Then, when you do finally present your logbook at scrutineering, it is invariably inspected by some Neville whose closest observation after looking at the enclosed photos, is either "You've painted your tank", or "You've changed yer number !"... usually the person inspecting the log book wouldn't have a clue, and is often the same person who checks your riding gear....not their fault, but not ideal.
The scrutineers have enough on their plate checking bikes and riding gear for safety, and inventing new and diplomatic responses to the tired old "but it was ok last time I rode...", without having to deal with the myriad of intricacies and pitfalls that eligibility contains. Nope, it's up to you, the rider, to read and understand the rule book, and to present a legal machine at the nationals. If you can get away with it at club level, fair enough: but at this level, bike legality should be governed by your peers riding in the same class.
 Eligibility only comes into play once the protests start, and it's got bugger-all to do with the scrutineers. Why is it so hard for people to understand ? Get your bike sorted early, avoid the grief, and get on with the racing !  

[colmoody]

Forget I spoke.

[albrid-3]

At the time when l rode that bike, seriously l did not know if that bike was a 125 or bigger, it wasn`t protested at the time, about 2 weeks later after the meeting ended l asked the fellow who l bought the engine off, what size it was and  he didn`t know so he rang hallam bros and asked them , they said  at the time it was 155cc  with a special cam that they purchased from the states , so me being fare  l handed back my over 40`s Australian title trophy at the AGM Meeting. Well Mick Cams suzuki tm 125 sunrise model shouldn`t have in that race either so l was told. A third of the field would be illegal, sl 250 how many are over size, bultaco mk 7, how many are mk 8. so stop throwing stones at me.

[VMX247]

That's very noble of you to had the trophy back albrid-3.  (if done under your own steam)
Now lets move on and pray to the Gods that those that have entered/entering this years Nationals have done there best not to rout the system, only to be fair and honest to themselves and all other entrance in the VMX Australia title.
cheers Alison

[albrid-3]

Thanks Alison,  THE BIKE MAY BE A QUICK LITTLE JIGGER, BUT SO WAS THE RIDER.

[Old Husky]

A couple of questions Albrid, about your comments.
1. Did you surrender the trophy before or after being ENCOURAGED TO??
2. Why was Mick Crams TM125 illegal??
3. Who got the trophy in the end??

[bazza]

Has anyone riden a xl125 that goes as fast as a cr250 and not been suspicious?

[albrid-3]

I was told  that Mick s suzuki was a 75 model not 74 , and yes l did surrender and handed back the trophy, it was at the AGM Meeting.

[Hornet]

Its not even august yet  and eligibilty is already rearing its ugly head     I have sold my bike for a good price and will think twice now before getting another one 

[GD66]

What ? What's buying a new bike (or not) got to do with eligibility ? If you ensure your bike's legal, there's no issue. The thread was opened to clear up any grey areas, and to try and avoid any problems at the nats. If you wish to turn it into another snappy, stamping departure (your second !), go right ahead....

[JohnnyO]

Why Hornet? Were you planning on running an illegal bike? If not there's nothing to think twice about.