TS Enduro

[TT5 Matt]

Tex
 love to post some pics when its finished but dont know how[1959 models werent born with a mouse and keyboard in our hands]same goes for those yellow smiley faces of expression


TT5 Matt

[Doc]

quote 'Doc, I think a stocktake is in order' unquote

  but evo , I do know what I've got, honest! never enough and mainly the fish John West rejected so as impressive as it sounds I have a garage full of pretty much worthless shitters someone had to save them!

lemme see, not all 100% or rebuilt but pretty close to it is the

JR50C
RM50N
TM75A
RM80B
DS80C
RM80Z
Hillbilly K10 80
TS100L
TS125R
TM125M
TM/RM125S (doc budget version '74 RA125)
RM125A/C
TS185ER
RL250M x2
TS250-1 '69
TSX250E
TS400A
RM400C
DR500SZ
F11 Kawa
SL100 Hon
GT185 special (extra special! )

project bikes to complete and bikes due to arrive in the not to distant future, TM250 , XR/YZ80K, RM400 '77 RN doc type replica, RT kitted TS250 and the mighty TS50 Gaucho from Mr Freaky. Then there's the bits and pieces but as stated Evo, most of this stuff is what 'normal' people would all but reject to me it's a piece from here and a piece from there and bingo! another toy to play with every now and then I get sick of the same ol' all the time and could not live in bliss if there was only one bike in my life..unless of course it was an RN370-420 from about 1976/'77. I trade em all tomorrow!

[TT5 Matt]

Doc
that 28 bikes!!!

[Doc]

28 is it! my goodness!  I know what I have but I've never learnt to count. I thought I only had about 5 or so

[frostype400]

What are you talking about Doc worthless shitters i dont think so your list looks pretty good you dont need a stocktake the more the merrier

[Doc]

thanks Frosty  let me rephrase that..most of them are oddballs..a bit like me I've come to the conclusion it's not the models I care for it's simply the challenge of bringing back something from the dead thread hijack in progress my appologies..please continue..suzuki vinduro's..pics anyone??

[JC]

Hey Roger,

Back to yr TSM 250. Looks nice. TF tank suits pretty well.

What are the forks from?

In the interests of saving a possible disaster down the track tho, I think you'll need more gussetting on the swingarm forward of the new bot shock mount.

[YUMASTEPSIDE]

,,,,,,,,,,yeah,I thought that too John! I'll probably put a full length rib on it as I also want to hang the centre stand from the front of the swingarm.

             Roger

[JC]

Yeh Roger,

A full length gusset would be a considerable benefit I believe - preferably under the swingarm. Gussets are best in tension (they can be made thinner) & it would interfere less w the chain on the underside.

I have a theory that much of the TM/TS's handling probs are due to the spindy poorly braced swingarm & would be improved w gussets along the bottom of ea arm. I'll try & take some pics & post them to illustrate what I mean.

Would that be a PE250 front end on yr bike?

What seat is it?

[Lozza]

Makes no difference if the arm is braced under or over.As the aim is tie both arms together to stop arms bending independantly, or if your putting a rib on there that only increases the amount of material the forces have to bend.Which is the 'steel ruler rule' ie get a ruler have the numbers facing you and hands on each end, now try to bend each end toward the ground or sky, next try the same thing with the numbers facing the ground.

[YUMASTEPSIDE]

The seats a PE but not sure what the forks are..........too short for a PE,just a set that I had and they fit,but by the hub and the triple clamps ,they appear to be Suzuki.

   Not sure what I will do with the swingarm exactly ,might shorten,rib and "banana" it yet..........I like the idea of making a silk purse out of a pigs arse !!!!!!

                           Roger   

[JC]

L, w all due respect, yr pretty quick to jump to conclusions & not consider the full picture. 

When yr bracing to stop the arms moving independantly of ea other, yr right, it makes no diff whether the brace is on the top or bottom (except that its more out of the chains way on the bottom) because the flex goes both ways at diff times, so the gusset has to cope w compression & tension whether its on top or bot. 

Those stresses are highest close to the pivot/cross brace & taper off the futher you move away from the pivot/crossbrace. If thats all yr bracing for, the gusset can also be tapered down as you move away from the crossbrace.

However, under the shock mount its a diff story, & thats what I was referring to. If the gusset there is on top it is largely under compression & therefore has to be thick enough to resist buckling as well. If it is underneath, its largely in tension & can be slightly thinner cos it doesn't have to resist buckling.

[YUMASTEPSIDE]

Gentlemen! Please return to your neutral corners.................this is supposed to be about tarting up an old girl so we can take her back out on the town!!!

                        Roger.............or ref

[JC]

R, is that the std TM/TS rear frame/seat loop that yr using, or was it modified when you moved the shock mt forward? It seems to fit that seat perfectly.

[YUMASTEPSIDE]

The rear diagonal upright and top shock mounts were cut off and moved forward and the rear loop was heated and bent to match the PE seat

                   Roger