2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update

[mxmaniac]

While I was sitting on the line in the Pre 85 263 class a fellow rode his Evo 263 bike off the track and into the grid. I thought that was not allowed.

Ji

I'm sure i saw Roy Gay doing that, dunno what the story was.

You Cant be fuggin serious, after about 3 weeks of guys typing about how wrong it was, none of these guys have put and end to it in there own back yard? 

[Nathan S]

So the 490 maico does still legally fit into EVO and Pre85 at national level?
If so, i will pay 2 entries and have 2 different numbers next year so i can ride more races.

The issue before the event was whether you could ride one bike in more than one class - not whether an Evo legal bike was allowed to be entered (only) in pre-85.

There was a younger bloke riding an Evo-spec RM125 in the pre-85 125 class too. Again, he was riding the bike in one class only.

I have wondered whether you'd get away with presenting the bike as two different bikes. There's a bloke in Historic Road Racing who has two different era log books for the one bike - it has two different fairings (old and relatively new styles) which makes it legit as the HRR guys have a rule that specifically says that a machine will be considered to be as old as its ewest major component.

What's this got to do with the 09 Nationals?
Top event, BTW.  

[JohnnyO]

While I was sitting on the line in the Pre 85 263 class a fellow rode his Evo 263 bike off the track and into the grid. I thought that was not allowed.

Ji

I'm sure i saw Roy Gay doing that, dunno what the story was.

You Cant be fuggin serious, after about 3 weeks of guys typing about how wrong it was, none of these guys have put and end to it in there own back yard? 

Mate i'm pretty sure the officials already had their plates full and didn't notice the offending rider.
He probably entered 2 different bikes.

[motomaniac]

UNFCKNBLVBLE!!!
Good Old Roy GAY DO'S IT HIS WAY!!!

Actually after all the pre nationa;s fuss on the forum there was nothing that I found in the GCR's about riding evo in pre 85, riding two class's or riding up a class ie from evo to Pre 85 .

Where's the documentation fella's so we can all read it and understand whats going on.

[holeshot buddy]

yeah roy did do that he had 2 maicos 
1 for evo and 1 for pre85
the races were back to back and he changed when he came in
except last race he came in late and rode straight around onto grid
like john said the officials had there hands full
so he managed to get away with it
didnt see anyone else do it over weekend though

[JohnnyO]

UNFCKNBLVBLE!!!
Good Old Roy GAY DO'S IT HIS WAY!!!

Actually after all the pre nationa;s fuss on the forum there was nothing that I found in the GCR's about riding evo in pre 85, riding two class's or riding up a class ie from evo to Pre 85 .

Where's the documentation fella's so we can all read it and understand whats going on.

Mate i think that's a discussion for another day..
We're all on a high after such a great weekend to get into this again.

[Ji Gantor]

Mrs Gantor believes she saw Roy ride straight off the track into the pre 85 263 class twice.

Ji

[holeshot buddy]

lot of talk about eligibility and protests
and illegal track
how about how good the meeting was
sure you will get protests 200 riders and 450 bikes
its always gunna happen at a national
best national i have been too and i couldnt ride
blew up 4 bikes so i was a spectator mostly :'(
meeting ran like a clock guys on dummy grid and start gate area
were excellent no dramas only the 1 main accident
track was great muddy in morning dry in afternoon
no dust and held up good
was prepped and watered every  night
scrutineering went well i did a lot of it and the presentation of the bikes
was excellent and we dont do eligibility at scrutineering only safety
if a guy has the wrong model forks in and he knows
and he is up the pointy end then he knows there is a chance of protest
if he is a mid or back packer he gets to race and have a good time
some might have incorrect parts and not know it
but its all about racing and having a good time
qvmx and sunshine coast club did an excellent job
18 months in the planing countless meetings
and working bees over 70 workers
big effort
everyone  i saw and spoke too had a good time
even me with 4 blown up bikes :'(
i did borrow 1 off brad and do a couple of races though

[motomaniac]

How did you manage to b low up 4 bikes ? Thats nuts.

Ajay already qouted a test - B and C model forks are exactly the same  save spring rates

[firko]

All of the great things that happened at the Nats and you blokes focus on the negative.
In my previous post I made the huge faux pas of not passing on my accolades.
* Thanks to Husky 67 and Ribbo for their friendship and for putting up with me and my snoring and whingeing.
*Thanks to Kevin Brown for reminding me of the joy of winning a trophy (Over 60s)when he least expected it. His glow made it all so worthwhile.
*Thanks to Peter Drakeford for taking over the PA mike when my lack of showbiz finesse started to manifest itself.
*Thanks to Noel Shultz, young Cassie, Mick Bakewell, Trev, Peter and other QVMX and Sunshine members who made our announcing gig a joy.
*Thanks for Bill and Kerry Nolan for their wonderful hospitality on Saturday night. Great people.
*Thanks to the nameless workers who did everything from bunting detail to sign on. We'd have been rooted without you!
*Thanks to Engineered Enviroments/Team Husky/Klub Kevlar for the fun vibe and great pit atmosphere.
Thanks to Victor for coming all the way from Slovakia to race. He didn't speak a word of English but his smile said he had a ball. He was very quick on a very slow bike too!
*It was brilliant to catch up with "old school" vintage mates, John Kemp, Paul Chippy, Col Metcher, Brian Clarkson, Vern Grayson, Gally, Grunt, Drakie and plenty more
*It was also great to meet up with forum regulars, the indominatble Alison and hubby Steve, Doc, Johnny O, Yammiefan, Vandy (cool RT1 mate, I forgot to tell you!), Nathan,090, TM Bill, Ross Cambell and my apologies if I've missed any of you.
*It was also an honour to present the Over 70's trophies to Dave Kemp, Bill Tyers, Colin Metcher, Billy Holm, the great Don Newell, and the amazing 81 year old Bill Watson. I also met up with 82 year old Bill Pengilly who wasn't racing due to injury. These old boys are living legends.

[holeshot buddy]

did gearbox selector on 125 husky (my fault)
ignition on 450 husky :'(
clutch bush on montesa 250 :'(
and the worst one riding my lovely little monty 125 pre78
lost power and stopped no compression
carby top had come off and leaned out holed piston :'( :'(
(bing carb) :'(
borrowed 090 brads cr125 mini bike for a couple of races got a second and third
tried too blow it up but i couldnt


good one firko

[090]

borrowed 090 brads cr125 mini bike for a couple of races got a second and third
tried too blow it up but i couldnt Grin Grin Grin

My $700 special!

[motomaniac]

Yer everyone said it was great but I heard today that one bloke is devarstated for getting disqualified for having different tripple clamps. Hes a long time VMX rider and committe member , does great work on and off the track.
If thats not nit picking I don't know.

Not much different to the CZ rear hub a few years back  and a bad sign for the future

[JohnnyO]

did gearbox selector on 125 husky (my fault)
ignition on 450 husky :'(
clutch bush on montesa 250 :'(
and the worst one riding my lovely little monty 125 pre78
lost power and stopped no compression
carby top had come off and leaned out holed piston :'( :'(
(bing carb) :'(
borrowed 090 brads cr125 mini bike for a couple of races got a second and third
tried too blow it up but i couldnt



good one firko

Rusty that's more blow ups than most people have in 10 seasons!
Hopefully you got them all out of the way for the next few years.

[AjayVMX]

Ajay already qouted a test - B and C model forks are exactly the same  save spring rates

Err... that's not what I said. 

I said that the suspension travel was the same. 

Changing spring rates is a pretty important difference and no doubt they would be valved differently to react properly for the different spring rates as well.  And of course...the C forks have extenders.

Not really "exactly the same" are they?