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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #345 on: August 11, 2009, 11:54:23 am »
WELL I GOT BACK TO VIC TONIGHT.... A PITTY SOME WON FROM 5TH AND NOT EVEN CLOSE WOULD SOOK JUST TO GET A 2ND....
Open a can of worms time? Here goes...
I'm guessing the above quote is a reference to the protest on the final day.
When I left the track the results were 'provisional' pending the outcome of the protest, but if upheld it clearly shows the protested bikes were 'illegal'.
Seems to me a protest can be viewed as a 'sook', but in all fairness - and that's important at the Nats - an 'illegal' bike shouldn't approach the start gate.

So I'm wondering if an Eligibility Scrutineer on the first day would knock these issues on the head, or is an 'after the fact' protest a better way to go?
If the Scrurineer - the technical Guru - says "Sorry mate, you'll need to change this and this..." then the protester - a fellow rider/racer - isn't put in the unfortunate position of lodging a protest.
Sooooo, just wondering.....


From memory, when bike were sporting era suspicious item in Tassie and Canberra ,  Dave tanner who did eligibility told them " that item isnt right, it may not be performanceing enhancing but if you choose to continue racing with it during the meeting and someone protests it, it will be upheld. its now up to you if you want to risk it and compete.   For warned is for-told.

This only becomes a problem for those looking at a top 3, and if your too stupid to risk a top 3 by running out of era gear then your a bit Doopy.  Every one else who like me is mid pack understands they can be Disqualified but as they are making up the numbers we prefer just to be warned if its just not quite right so we can at least ride the event and keep the numbers up.  Obviously if its a glaringITem then NO it shoulndt be getting to the gate, but other wise it should be OK to a point.  Any one intenting taking home a little trophy HAS a duty to ensure there bike is 99% correct to the best of there knowledge or be in a postion to make changes to it before they compete to ensure they comply or understand if they dont make an effort they should expect a protest to be upheld.
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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #346 on: August 11, 2009, 12:42:07 pm »
has any one got good photos of Dean Burts bike?
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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #347 on: August 11, 2009, 01:28:06 pm »
 "Dean Burt is the best thing to come along to VMX in years. His RM 400T Suzuki would have to have been the most meticulously prepared Evo bike at the meet and the fact that he owns and prepared the bike himself shows "

A bit of history about Burties RM400 - actually he wouldn't have needed to do much prep or resto to that bike .It's a genuine low hour bike that was imported form SOCAL in I think 2001.Bought from Vintage Iron.
Once the bike finally arrived here and was cleared it sat in its new owners shed for many years and was finally raced at a VIPER round at Wonthaggi a few years ago.Getting holeshot after holeshot.It then sat in the shed again until it was put on ebay , attracting not one bid.It was listed again and sold I think after auction to Burtie at about half of what it owed the owner.
It had worksperformance emulsion shocks , looks like burtie has put on some ohlins and moved the handle bars up and forward.
Wouldlike too see some close up shots also if anyone out there has some.

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #348 on: August 11, 2009, 01:29:55 pm »
"From memory, when bike were sporting era suspicious item in Tassie and Canberra ,  Dave tanner who did eligibility told them " that item isnt right, it may not be performanceing enhancing but if you choose to continue racing with it during the meeting and someone protests it, it will be upheld. its now up to you if you want to risk it and compete.   For warned is for-told."

Sounds like a reasonable approach

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #349 on: August 11, 2009, 02:00:39 pm »
I've started another thread about the pre-78 125 thing, so this thread doesn't get too foulled up with less-than-positive discussion.

Anyway:
Frikken top weekend of racing.

Highlights are manys, lowlights are few - and they mostly involved pissed Willie Nelson wannabes keeping me (and half the other riders) awake at 1am on Sunday morning >:(. The ring-leader should expect retribution if he attends next year's Nats, doubly if he pulls the same stunt there...  ;D And yes, we all know who you are!

My results were crap, but that's nobody's fault by my own! :D The best result was a 4th in one pre-70 250 race (and 5th overall after being dropped from =4th on countback), although that 4th place was the result of some other DNFs and was a loooonng way behind 3rd, so I have no delusions.

One of the funnier bits was travelling up with my long-time pre-78 125 sparring partner Noel - and then racing bar-to-bar with him in both of the pre-78 125 races that I finished (I DNF'd the middle race after getting caught up in a crash caused by one of those testosterone filled lunatic 50 year olds!:D ).

Its just great to be part of something 'big' like the Nationals, and I'm all fired up to go to Broadford next year! :)

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #350 on: August 11, 2009, 02:13:18 pm »
Doc,

Great set of photos.  Especially loved photo 15.  Thats the way I remember Suzukis on the track in the 70's.  ;D

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #351 on: August 11, 2009, 02:25:23 pm »
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Highlights are manys, lowlights are few - and they mostly involved pissed Willie Nelson wannabes keeping me (and half the other riders) awake at 1am on Sunday morning >:(. The ring-leader should expect retribution if he attends next year's Nats, doubly if he pulls the same stunt there...  ;D And yes, we all know who you are!


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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #352 on: August 11, 2009, 02:45:35 pm »
The bike may have not needed much work, but Dean has spent countless hours setting up the bike, including the front and rear suspension, jetting and a certain A Gunter assisting with porting the barrel.
The thing it an absolute rocket.
He and his family as well as KB, Ribbo, and Shaun were guests for the whole weekend in the Engineered Environments/ KK  Kompound (thanks Shoey) and it was a pleasure to see him in action, as well as the support team from the Gong.
Ribbo rode well and came in 3rd, and KB came in 1st, in the 263 and over 60’s+ and 2nd in the 250 over 60’s. Shaun had a bit of bad luck, but will be stronger for the next one.                           

Thanks to Ribbo and Firko for the entertaining trip  ;D, and big thankyou to Bill and Kerrie for the bbq saturday night as well as Noel,Trevor and all the support crew who assisted running the event.
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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #353 on: August 11, 2009, 02:46:34 pm »
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A bit of history about Burties RM400 - actually he wouldn't have needed to do much prep or resto to that bike.
Maybe so but he did anyway. The bike was stripped to every last bolt and fully rebuilt, replacing everything that needed to be. The engine porting and mods were done by Anthony Gunter, the YZ Yamaha H forks were fitted with pd valves and meticulous experimentation went into spring rates and oil viscosity. The front wheel is a twin leader Yamaha, the Works shocks were replaced with YSS and later with rare Wilbur shocks. Dean spent countless hours jetting the bike to absolute perfection before he even considered the bike ready for racing.
I think it's a bit unfair to assume that Dean bought a ready to win bike. It might have been OK for the previous owner but wasn't up to it for Deans obviously high standards.
                                 
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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #354 on: August 11, 2009, 03:00:20 pm »
JEEEZZZUZ , AMAZING THAT HE WENT TO SUCH LENGTHS WHEN THE BIKE WAS ALREADY GOOD ,SAVE THE SHOCKS.THANKS FOR THE INFO :o

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #355 on: August 11, 2009, 05:17:25 pm »
Dean Burt a work in progress

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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
« Reply #357 on: August 11, 2009, 05:45:28 pm »
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Would like too see some close up shots also if anyone out there has some.
 

yeah, got any shots of it in the pits/not moving?
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Re: 2009 qvmx sunshine coast mcc vintage nationals update
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