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the usa election
« on: November 04, 2008, 12:46:20 pm »
what do the american  forum members  think on there candiates ,this is what one off my friends in the usa said today
Hey Paul!

Going to vote for McCain. Obama is tool liberal and I am telling you God help us if he gets in. We will be heading down the road socialism. Let me tell you I think he is as close to a communist as anyone. It is getting to a point that there is no where to run. I am very afraid for this country if Obama gets in along with the rest of the world.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 02:24:43 pm »
What's so frightening about this post is "Steves" total ignorance of what socialism or what a communist is. I know we've covered this to the end in another thread but I'm still blown away by the political naivity shown by many Americans.
Barack Obama is as much a socialist as Sarah Palin is an intellectual.

I'm having a hard time understanding why so many Americans are so afraid of Socialism anyway. Capitalism hasn't done them any favours recently.
Obama in a landslide.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 03:00:47 pm »
i think it goes further than that firko, it actually scares me how little many americans know of pretty much anything outside their own back yard. it's not necessarily their fault either, world news is a little on the thin side over there.

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 03:02:15 pm »
NIMMO for me ::)
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 03:48:48 pm »
yep gator,  ross in a landslide
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 05:09:00 pm »
I think its just that they(USA) are afraid of the cost of renaming and repainting the White House,the simple things really. ;D
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 05:19:59 pm »
I pity the USA given the choice they have been offered.
Its vote for more of the same or a totally unknown black fella with Moslem ties.  I am basing my opinion on the news reports we get here. Probably a lot more issues then just those. Glad I don't have to choose between those two clowns.

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2008, 05:58:17 pm »
I have lots of family in the midwest of the US, and you must understand they are a very conservative people.  Great folk, give you the shirt off their back if you needed it ( a lot like Queenslanders ).
No matter what the polls say, if McCain can convince some of the normally non-voters into the booths, and the Clinton supporters decide not to vote because she is not running, that conservatism will make it a very close thing.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 06:05:46 pm »
Do I give a flying Firk ....not at all,  same old shit different Jocky. Ruled by the WAR LORDS 

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 06:44:15 pm »
I agree Mike, the people of middle America are unbelievably conservative and deadly afraid of anything that they don't understand. Unfortunately the education system and the media have failed in informing them of different political beliefs and systems which leaves them with a distrust of radical change. The message that the 'American way is the only way' is hammered into them from day one and many truly believe that their system is the only democracy in the world. The misconception that Obama is a moslem and therefore dangerous and not to be trusted is one of those scare mongering techniques that hones in on that ignorance and has been used by the religious right to great effect. Of course I'm generalising and there is a good number of Americans who are well informed and open to different political philosophy but they are a minority if you take the news reports on Fox News as an indication of what the nation thinks.

I have strong ties to the US and count a number of Americans among my best mates. Based on what I've observed and from what my friends believe, I think that Barack Obama is exactly what America needs right now. After 8 years of possibly the worst world leader since......since the beginning of time, America desperately needs a change in direction. Conservative politics and fiscal policy got them (and us) into the mess we're in now so perhaps a more radical approach to rebuilding America is now needed. I think Obama will draw many black voters who previously figured that voting wasn't going to make any difference to their lives. It'll also bring back many democrats who hadn't bothered to vote in previous elections. Of course there will be the Southern conservative element who will vote for McCain to prevent a "nigger" from being elected as president. To them that is a fate beyond tragedy.

I reckon America is ready for a change after the disaster ridden 8 years of Bush so I think Obama will romp in but not as strongly as the polls say.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 06:45:32 pm »
Holy Shit Quicky! Where in hell did you get the Moslem ties to Obama? Fox forking news?? Thats the most ludicrous and redneck racist statement I've heard for ages. Obama is no moslem, his name is African, not islamic. And even if he was a moslem, what does it matter? Do you asume that every moslem is a terrorist? Give us a break ::)

As I said in my post and if you bothered to read it you of noticed, what I said was. "I am basing my opinion on the news reports we get here" . Thats 10 News to be exact. Obama did his primary school years in Indonesia in a moslem only school. Thats what 10 news reported.

Me a Racist.  ;D  a redneck.  8) 8). anti moslem.  :) If you say so.  :-*

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 07:18:54 pm »
For all concerned it's "MUSLIM" and Obama's middle name is Hussein which is the arab equivalent to SMITH.

Whether Americans vote for "Kill'em All" M'Cain or
"Yes, I was raised a muslim till my father abandoned me" Obama

They will shoot themselves in the foot, it's just the choice of left or right that they must decide.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 07:51:33 pm »
A little history lesson for all of the misguided liberals who think conservatives are the cause of the financial mess!

    The roots of today's mortgage-based financial crisis can be traced back to the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which Jimmy Carter (head tool)  signed in 1977. Seeking to address complaints from anti-poverty activists and housing advocates about banks allegedly discriminating against minority borrowers and "redlining" inner-city neighborhoods, the CRA decreed that banks had "an affirmative obligation" to meet the credit needs of victims of discrimination in borrowing.

    To add a government stick to the process, the CRA decreed that federal banking regulators would consider how well banks were doing in meeting the goal of more multiculturalism in loaning when considering requests by banks to open new branches or to merge.

    A good "CRA rating" was earned by way of increasing loans in poor neighborhoods. Conversely, lenders with low ratings could be fined.

    The Fed warned banks that failure to comply with government guidelines regarding the delivery of "equal credit" could subject them to "civil liability for actual or punitive damages in individual or class actions, with liability for punitive damages being as much as $10,000 in individual actions and the lesser of $500,000 or 1 percent of the creditor's net worth in class actions.
This well-intentioned in terms of delivering "economic justice," this push for more government-directed social engineering produced a widespread weakening of long-established industry standards for credit worthiness.

    Led by Congressional Democrats, this policy of replacing private and decentralized decision-making with a system of centrally-delivered rewards and punishments was basically a     one-party effort. Republicans, it seems, were more aware of the unintended consequences that flow from government interference in the market.

Over the past 30 years, Democrats, along with a handful of Republicans, have demonized lenders as racist and passed regulation after regulation pressuring them to make more loans to unqualified borrowers in the name of diversity.  The march toward the eventual financial meltdown picked up speed during the Clinton administration via an increased lowering of loan standards in order to expand minority borrowing.
 By intervening, even just threatening to intervene in the CRA review process, left-wing nonprofit groups have been able to gain control over pools of bank capital, which they in turn parcel out to individual low-income mortgage seekers,   The radical group called ACORN had a $760 million commitment from The Bank of New York!

What makes this even more disgusting is that we are about to turn the government over to the people who were responsible for this fiasco to begin with. The voters seem hell bent on rewarding Democrats as better able to manage the economy. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 07:54:51 pm »
Hey Cyclegod. Lighten up.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 08:10:04 pm »
VOTE NIMMO FOR GAY RIGHTS!! :P