HL500

[GMC]

I'm led to believe that the current crop of replica frames have been improved from the originals with extra gussetting strengthening etc.

More Bullshit
My frames are a direct copy of an original.
The square box backbone was beefed up as this was a common problem with the originals.
That hardly changes anything.
I have had to repair and strengthen all manner of frames over the years and now you have some petty jealousy because I have built something from new materials.



The Profab frames were, according to Motocross Action of July77, available to the public around that time.
Both Profab and NVT frames were built to the same specs and so only vary in minor detail.
Footpeg mounts and steering stops do not a model maketh

[motomaniac]

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Where is GMC?


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Oh he's here now . About bloody time Sunshine.

[motomaniac]

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Funny i thought the whole point of MX racing was about race victories 

Yes you are right Billy , in the real world it is.  But this is cyber racing , please dont kill this  thread 
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[GMC]

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Where is GMC?

Oh he's here now . About bloody time Sunshine.
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Sorry, been busy having a life
Now I've wasted another morning

[bigk]

Not once have I taken a personal shot at you Geoff, only the rules as written. The current crop of HL's contradict the rules IMO, and yes when I get told told I couldn't ride an RC "replica" in EVO beside a HL I get a tad annoyed. By the way I never said I hadn't been beaten by a HL, and Webbo can surely ride well, I said I'd never seen one win a race. Calm down Geoff, I doubt my sooking about HL's is going to do any damage to your HL frame business. I hate the things for a number of reasons and am not shy in saying so, no need to take it personally. How are my tanks looking?
Cheers,
k

[Nathan S]

Geoff, there's at least once big difference in the photos of the NVT and GMC frames...
Your photo is way better.:p

Seriously, the thing that offends me about HLs is all of the YZ125C/Xs that have been raped and pillaged for their fuel tanks. It amazes me that nobody has started making plastic replicas.

[GMC]

Not once have I taken a personal shot at you Geoff, only the rules as written. The current crop of HL's contradict the rules IMO,

Maybe not personally, but I have read a lot of comments, from others as well seem to suggest that any HL doesn’t have the right to exist.
Replica frames are legal within the rules, not just my frames.
And 81 model forks and longer shocks are Evo legal so I don’t see what the problem is.

I doubt my sooking about HL's is going to do any damage to your HL frame business. I hate the things for a number of reasons and am not shy in saying so, no need to take it personally.
Cheers,
k

Just having my say.

There’s lots of models that I have never seen win anything but that’s got nothing to do with me desiring any particular model.

Calm down Geoff,
. How are my tanks looking?
Cheers,
k

I’m calm, but your tanks have just been moved to the back of the queue

[GMC]

Geoff, there's at least once big difference in the photos of the NVT and GMC frames...
Your photo is way better.:p

Seriously, the thing that offends me about HLs is all of the YZ125C/Xs that have been raped and pillaged for their fuel tanks. It amazes me that nobody has started making plastic replicas.

Actually I reckon thats a crap photo.

I think there are some plastic tanks around, but they look like crap.
I can get replica plastic seat bases now.
Eventually when it gets harder to find a tank it will be worthwhile fabricating something but at the moment a second hand tank goes for much less than what it would cost to make one.

[motomaniac]

Thats not Bengt , obviously, its Swedish rider Bjorn Casserborg who raced selected Gp's and the Swedish Nationals and probably some other international events.

[Marc.com]

Seriously, the thing that offends me about HLs is all of the YZ125C/Xs that have been raped and pillaged for their fuel tanks. It amazes me that nobody has started making plastic replicas.

Its not the fuel tanks its the seats that are actually hard to find. So does this mean Im responsible for at least the death of 5 YZ125s ( bought a bunch of tanks when they were costing $80). I am sure they were raped and pillaged long before the tanks came off.

GMC frames, work of art and I would be happy to own another one, except 2 HLs would be overkill. If Geoff would build an RN replica frame for the TM400 I would be first in line.

[motomaniac]

I think the original VMX magazine article is a little out with the dates the kits became available. I think when someone turns up and wipes the floor at a pre 78 race with an HL it is worth getting worked up .... even Aberg had his work cut out and he was a 4 stroke racer from the short travel era.

Here is a pic of Bengt struggling on the  4 stroke against Brads RC500!

[Marc.com]

I think the fact that Aberg is clearly in front of the works RC500 in this photo says a lot about the HLs competitiveness against what should have been much faster 2 strokes with full factory build and support. 

[Husky70]

No, it says a lot about Bengt Aberg. 

[bigk]

I have a new fibreglass HL seat base if anyone want's it, or maybe I'll just smash it with the biggest hammer I have!
Cheers,
K

[vmx42]

I think the fact that Aberg is clearly in front of the works RC500 in this photo says a lot about the HLs competitiveness against what should have been much faster 2 strokes with full factory build and support. 

He certainly looks good at the start, but where did he finish?

The HL was clearly the underdog, and we know that Aussies and Kiwis will always route for the underdog. Great to see him battle the big boys on something basically home built and completely different. It certainly answered a question that wasn't asked again until the rules were completely skewed in favour of the four-strokes.

Good on them for trying, the bike had a lot of mystique and that goes a long way to explain the demand for replicas. There is plenty of room for many more of them…