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Offline Slakewell

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Newish two stroke
« on: October 14, 2015, 11:56:40 am »
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2015, 12:11:14 pm »
Big Question,
Will it come to Australia?
Brett
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2015, 11:17:20 am »
It really needs adr approval too don.t know if it will have that or not if it does and it is a decent price it will sell heaps.
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2015, 09:01:37 pm »
"Sell Heaps"?? only if you can re convert all the wr450 riders back to 2-s...easier to get IS to take up Buddhism....
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2015, 09:04:03 pm »
Quote from: oldyzman on October 14, 2015, 12:11:14 pm
Big Question,
Will it come to Australia?
Brett
Yes, very limited market I think.
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Offline Nathan S

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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2015, 09:34:07 pm »
As best as I can tell, the new WR250(Z) is just a YZ250X with a factory fitted headlight.

Im glad they're making the X, but it misses the mark in Australia. No ADR, 5-speed, no electric start, and still bloody expensive.

The X with a rec rego kit is more expensive than a Beta 250RR. I get the Yamaha's good points, but I can't imagine many people choosing to pay more for the Yamaha.
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2015, 10:17:16 pm »
Without ADR approval, it's a white elephant in OZ.

IMHO MX bikes in the bush are far from ideal. (For the majority of riders/circumstances.)

I've ridden a 2015 YZ250 on an MX track. Incredible bike! More than I can use on a natural terrain MX track, let alone a snotty hill!! (Again, light, smooth, powerful. Fantastic! But close ratios and a hit that had me jumping out of the chosen rut.)
I've ridden a 2015 KTM300EXC at Sunny Corner. Incredible bike! Would be my first choice for a new trail bike. (Can lug up a hill if required. Didn't seem to lack power at any situation! :P)

By way of background:I currently race (slowly, even for a "Vet") a YZ250F, and a 525 Supermoto, and cruise the trails on a 450F. I raced 125s and 250s when all race bikes were 2 strokes.

I love all dirt bikes.
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2015, 07:15:04 am »
rego is big at our age...ol mate stacked a year or so ago and hurt his shoulder badly. TAC just paid for his A$60Kshouler reco...
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2015, 10:43:18 am »
I dont know about the jetting in the WR but my own YZ t/s was so badly jetted from the factory that it hit really hard coming onto the main jet as it cleared itself making it much harder to ride. I think I dropped 5 sizes leaner on the needle and up jetted the pilot and mains and it smoothed it right out. Plus I fitted a heavier flywheel. I really like mine now. But if the cost is close to the KTM/Husky why not just get the 300? Still it's good to see at least something new and hopefully not forgotten 2/s from japan.
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2015, 11:24:55 pm »



My Wr250z in progress, true wide ratio and full ADR....nearly 20 years old now  :o .......yeah jetting is a tad off for sure
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2015, 10:19:01 am »
Looking good!

I've heard of someone fitting the WR tranny from a WR450 to the new 250 smoker. Required some machining apparently.
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2015, 11:38:10 am »
Quote from: skypig on October 17, 2015, 10:19:01 am
Looking good!

I've heard of someone fitting the WR tranny from a WR450 to the new 250 smoker. Required some machining apparently.

I haven't done it, but apparently the cases need some additional clearance around 1st gear. Nothing that can't be done with a die-grinder.

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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2015, 12:39:06 pm »
I love Yamahas.
Think the modern YZs are unbelievable.
But.
KTM300EXCs come stock with a 6 speed WR transmission.....
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2015, 10:07:22 pm »
why would you stuff around having to modify something when you can buy one that works?
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Re: Newish two stroke
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2015, 06:03:24 pm »
According to "Cycle Torque" magazine.
The 2 smoke has a 5 speed Wide Ratio tranny (MX 5 CR)
And the 4 stroke version has a 6 speed (MX version is 5)

Either (both?) would make excellent club level MX bikes, with more flexibility. (For private property use)

Neither has ADR which is the real shame.
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