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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2015, 12:23:49 am »

 Drill the fork leg and insert a steel threaded stepped tube, Machine Two flat sides on the outer for a spanner hold.

 

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2015, 09:19:59 am »
Oh, I like that!
Are they commercially available, or a custom job? (Source if available)

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2015, 04:17:28 pm »
Very common things. The suspension guys use them to weld into the ends of pipe for custom linkage arms.. 4x4 guys should stock then. Try the guys on sugar road. Or caloundra.
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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 01:25:28 am »
After a lot of to and fro.

I went with a "Timesert"






Not cheap. Apparently better than a Helicoil for more frequent removal. Commonly used for sump plugs etc. I bought a kit, and longer inserts.
Seems good




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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 12:06:40 pm »
what sort of $$ does the kit run into and who sells them

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2015, 01:33:43 pm »
The kit was $260 from the importer.
$167 + postage from this guy
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Time-Sert-Kit-M12x1-5-Part-1215-Timesert-Metric-Thread-Repair-Kit/221797387835?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3Dec8b78f193934c15a623ecc55bb2d25c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D221797386720

Comes with drill, counter sink (for the "shoulder"), tap (external time-sert thread), and "inserter" (like internal tap) and 5 inserts. Then I bought longer inserts to suit my need. Ideal for me would have been a "bottoming tap" as well - not sure if they are even available.

They seem like a good system.
The last internal threads are not fully formed. After the insert is screwed in, against the shoulder, the internal tap continues through forcing the insert out, therefore very tight.

So far so good.

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2015, 08:05:49 pm »
After a lot of to and fro.

I went with a "Timesert"

Not cheap. Apparently better than a Helicoil for more frequent removal. Commonly used for sump plugs etc. I bought a kit, and longer inserts.
Seems good
That looks just like the old Keensert without the 4 locking pins.
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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2015, 09:32:02 pm »
I like the "shoulder" - means it "bottoms out" before being swagged.
I believe the spark plug versions are available with  a tapered face to suit that style of plug.

The also do a "Thick sert" version, for previously repaired threads. Handy for old, previously refurbed, MX bikes.

Great to know this stuff is available.

I'd love a "sticky" on thread repair options.
- "Nutserts" for sheet metal
- Atlas "Spintight" for thicker/blind applications (found the info, but no supplier in Aus)
- helicoils (got a cheap Helicoil remover on eBay - works well)
- The above "Time sert/Thick sert"

Old school - weld/braze, drill, tap

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2015, 09:58:08 pm »


That's a really neat fix mate. Looks great. I would go as far to say Pretty 8)

I wouldn't worry about the
The last internal threads are not fully formed. After the insert is screwed in, against the shoulder, the internal tap continues through forcing the insert out, therefore very tight.

Not exactly matched at the end of the cut, are they( the tap and the sert). I like to fill the outer thread voids with slow set 2pak Araldite or at least 277 loctite.
Cop a lot of pounding as well of all sorts of gyroscopic loads. I doubt it would move anyhow though.
I reckon 277 is a great application when using serts in XR350 cylinders. Memory says 500deg C and it is great as a stable filler in large loaded voids.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 10:17:27 pm by Mick D »
"light weight, and it works great"  :)

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2015, 10:17:57 pm »
Thanks  :D

I put a little Araldite on the outer half of the thread and under the shoulder.

Using it in this direction (opposite to most applications) the tighter I do up the axle, the harder it pulls it in, against the shoulder.

I'm pretty confident it will out last me. :)

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2015, 10:25:18 pm »
Thanks  :D

I put a little Araldite on the outer half of the thread and under the shoulder.

Using it in this direction (opposite to most applications) the tighter I do up the axle, the harder it pulls it in, against the shoulder.

I'm pretty confident it will out last me. :)

You should be  8)
You've done a top job  :)
"light weight, and it works great"  :)

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2015, 04:14:27 pm »
I do don't hate welded parts as much as finding a dirt bike thats advertised as having "a new paint job" and they paint it matt black

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2015, 09:23:55 pm »
I have a new angle to the topic title I've started , I'm sorry it's got enoughing to do with bike . I'm very mixed up at the moment ,probably more angry , angry at social media shit such as facebook . People saying things about others when  they don't know that person  >:(

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2015, 04:11:20 pm »
Easy fix stay off facebook, better yet don't register on it in the first place.

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Re: Why blooding why
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2015, 07:25:27 am »
Yes an easy fix because I still haven't joined up yet im going off the things my grieving wife was reading out to me
off facebook after tragically dead of your son in a horribe car crash last week he was the only death in the accident and I can't believe the horrible things people can say about someone who they dont know