You're.not wrong Trev. You are entitled to your opinion. You did call for civil conversation and thats all it is. I was just curious. My opinion is that all events need constant upgrading regarding formats. My club, Heaven, scheduled a club meet on a dead flat oval with no jumps three and a half hours west of Sydney a few years ago and very quickly it turned into their biggest meet. Since then they have introduced team racing, 15 minute GP's and countless other additions to their program, all very well supported. This sport needs creative ideas introduced constantly to keep people interested. Unfortunately mates racing mates is dying a slow death. With this event QVMX are committed to giving the rider and public something that no other club can or has not offered. For that alone they are to be congradulated for putting them on the line and having a real crack