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suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« on: February 02, 2015, 04:01:53 pm »
can you suzuki guys with zedder please give me the 70-77 titan T500 suzuki crank bearing numbers and what the swaps are please.

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2015, 04:15:33 pm »
Just did one of those cranks a couple of months ago and from memory they are an unusal size bearing that was Suzuki only. Other funny thing is the center bearings are open into the gearbox for lubrication with a Suzuki only seal either side. Sorry that doesn't help you much does it.

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 04:20:37 pm »
Have a pdf parts book some where Freaky will locate and email if you want. Tim754
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 04:31:51 pm »
Suzuki part number (no Bearing ID or size listed) 09269-25003

 as our friend above thought, Zedder only lists it for T500 Cobra , T500 Titan and GT500 Titan   68/78 >:(
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2015, 05:42:24 pm »
Part # = 09269-25003
Part Description = BEARING
Model Count = 10
GT500A 1976 492 GT500 TITAN STREET
GT500B 1977 492 GT500 TITAN STREET
T500-2 1969 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500-3 1970 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500 1968 492 T500 COBRA STREET
T500J 1972 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500K 1973 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500L 1974 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500M 1975 492 T500 TITAN STREET
T500R 1971 492 T500 TITAN STREET

Measure the bearing size. Several motorcycle parts wholesalers such as Link and Cykel sell the odd size engine/wheel bearings found in many bikes that are not easily obtainable through your local bearing and seal shops and are not a common industrial size sold by SKF or Nachi etc.

Some info here may help

http://www.suzuki2strokes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5542&start=15
« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 06:02:33 pm by LWC82PE »
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 09:32:09 pm »
I don't think it's so much an odd size but more like an odd design. They have a metal retaining ring fitted. This is what makes them soooo 'special' ::)

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 10:13:15 pm »
Retaining ring, drillings to match up to gearbox & a recess for location pin if my memory serves me correctly

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 10:43:06 pm »
Retaining ring, drillings to match up to gearbox & a recess for location pin if my memory serves me correctly

yeah..what he said too ;)

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2015, 12:26:44 am »
Ok real special one! I did a full resto on one of these 5 or 6 years ago but i can not remember what the solution was. I think the customer may have supplied NOS bearings he found years ago :-\
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2015, 08:58:32 am »
Rare as the proverbial

try contacting VJMC
or VJMW
or
http://www.tr500.co.uk/

Those guys may be able to help you out or have a work around.

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2015, 01:45:35 pm »
OK cool, im trying to fix a crank for a 70+ old chap who parked this thing cause he was told the crank bearing dont exsist.  which i found hard to believe but thought id ask what solutions there are on the wider horizon.  He wants to have one more ride on the thing so i said let me see if i can find some and get this thing going again.

Surely in this age nothing is unobtainable, even the china will remake bearing for you to spec, and im sure suzuki also have a parts line running again to order. cant believe there isnt a swap or solution out there already.

find out anythign please post it up, and ill follow up
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2015, 02:06:17 pm »
i notice there is a lot of crank seals..........

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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2015, 03:09:54 pm »
so whats the part numbers for all 3 bearings then ?
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2015, 05:22:35 pm »
Bearing Crankshaft X 2                09269-25003
Bearing Middle Crankshaft X 1     09269-30002
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Re: suzuki crank bearing t500 swaps on zedder ?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2015, 06:24:22 pm »
Sometimes sleeves can be fitted to stock type bearings and holes drilled for dowels. I have done this type of work in the past but would need the old bearings for sizing before I can advise if possible. If you are desperate I can check with the guy I did the crankwork for to see if he still has the old ones or is the crank already stripped.