MA Bonanza to compete with VMX Classic Dirt

[magoo]

Also, too many bloody Kiwis!!!!

I think you'll find MA is a private company that is a for profit business. Sadly, this "for profit" business can say and do what it pleases as far a motorcycling in Australia is concerned

[Wombat]

I think you'll find MA is a private company that is a for profit business. Sadly, this "for profit" business can say and do what it pleases as far a motorcycling in Australia is concerned

Is that right? The organising body of the motorcycle community is geared to make dollars for the shareholders?
It's a private Company?! Well bugger me, I had no idea!

I honestly thought it was a bunch of old bikers doing their best to promote and organise events for the best interest of it's Members.
I mistakenly believed this elevated 'power' over the motorcycling masses had affected their decisions, arbitrarily overriding others wishes.
This 'making a profit for the Company' revelation certainly puts a whole new perspective on the situation. It certainly explains the many blinkered views from on high.
It explains why they veto others applications and put THEIR event in its place.

I'll just leave it at that for the moment coz I'm gobsmacked.

No, let me add I'm absolutely f*ckin' disgusted!

 

[AjayVMX]

Thanks guys!

Hopefully, we should be able to announce CD6 details officially in about a month from now.  There's just some loose ends to tied up before then.

Suffice to say, it will be scheduled sufficiently away from the MA HHHB to make it possible for people to go to both if they can afford to do so!

[magoo]

I think you'll find all the State Controlling Bodies are companies as well, they are not Government bodies.

[Wombat]

Yeah well, colour me disillusioned.

[Yamaboy]

Don't bother trying to book a room at the only motel in Broadford. The whole motel was booked by MA weeks ago.

[VMX247]

yer well this West Aussie has  booked the whole town of CONNONDALE QLD   
canyabringyaswag 

[Freakshow]

i think youll find the event will be set around more road racing on the ,main track, any way all the other stuff is just trimming, plus they owe the speedway boys after they came all they way to adelaide for the gold cup and fell off the program due to the 2 hrs time lost in the stupid start gate fuc up

MOst the MA guys are Historic RR centred if anything so i dont see there will be much over lap into cd6 stuff.

Just think of it as another event to keep historics of all forms on the MA agenda, hey if its a shit turn out they might get proactive and lower fees on HVMX permits and licences, could be an upside if used wisely :O)

[Husky500evo]

If there is a bit of a time gap between the 3 events I hope to go to CD6 , Broadford & the Conondale Nats next year . CD6 & Conondale will take priority though . I love my old bikes & will travel long distances to get to events , but don't want to get involved in the politics . I can't understand the attitude of some Victorians , who wouldn't travel around 1000km to CD5 . To me , that is only just up the road ( or a cheap flight away) & they don't seem very passionate about their chosen sport . It is about a 2500km round trip for me just to go to Conondale & thats without even leaving my own state . I would go to CD6 even if it was a Manjimup .

[Board]

Some of you people do not listen, or read correctly.

1. The event is not being run by the Victorian MA, but by Motorcycling Australia, the National body, and they (MA) will be paying for the venue hire.
2. It is being run at Broadford because that venue offers tracks for Scrambles,Motocross, Road Race, Speedway, Dirt Track, Enduro and Trials at the one complex.
3. It is not being run to take people away from "Classic Dirt". I certainly will attend both events, as I attended CD3, 4 & 5
4. This event at Broadford is based on the big UK events such as Goodwood or the 1000 Bike Festival, and the US "Mid-Ohio" festival.
5. It will be open to all types of veteran , vintage, classic and special interest motorcycles from all disciplines of motorcycling.
6. The VMX content will only be one part of the complete package.
7. I believe that the guest of honour will be an Australian ex Road Race World Champion.

Lets drop the negativity and the stupid and incorrect comments, and look forward to two days for huge motorcycle fun.

[GMC]

Hmmm, it doesn't surprise me that MA is a company, Diamond Valley MCC was listed as a company for a long time due to liabilty issues, it was safer for members this way. But I now wonder who owns this MA company?
All members should have a stake in the pie, but if it is owned by individuals then how did they aquire MA's assets such as Broadford.

Nathan, somebody else did start building HL frames years ago, bagged me in their sales pitch but then fell by the wayside when it got too hard for the money.
This is business & you would be foolish not to expect it. But with this scene you have to have your heart in it & not just be chasing dollars alone. I hope MA has their heart in it as this event will require a lot of punters to justify. 

[VMX-Honda]

Some of you people do not listen, or read correctly.

1. The event is not being run by the Victorian MA, but by Motorcycling Australia, the National body, and they (MA) will be paying for the venue hire.
2. It is being run at Broadford because that venue offers tracks for Scrambles,Motocross, Road Race, Speedway, Dirt Track, Enduro and Trials at the one complex.
3. It is not being run to take people away from "Classic Dirt". I certainly will attend both events, as I attended CD3, 4 & 5
4. This event at Broadford is based on the big UK events such as Goodwood or the 1000 Bike Festival, and the US "Mid-Ohio" festival.
5. It will be open to all types of veteran , vintage, classic and special interest motorcycles from all disciplines of motorcycling.
6. The VMX content will only be one part of the complete package.
7. I believe that the guest of honour will be an Australian ex Road Race World Champion.

Lets drop the negativity and the stupid and incorrect comments, and look forward to two days for huge motorcycle fun.

Hey Bored,
I think you are the one who is missing the point. All anybody is complaining about is the way this event has displaced 3, successful existing events to suit the whims of MA [a body who is supposed to exist the promote and support motorcycling].

If you can't see the conflict of interest displayed by this action then you need to go the to room of mirrors.

As I said before a simple change of dates for the MA event [the newcomer] would remove any conflict. But NO INSTEAD WE WILL IMPOSE OUR WILL ON YOU - BECAUSE WE CAN. That is the problem, not the event.

I too would love to attend all 3 and it looks like I will be able to because the promoters of the other events will move their dates to suit the will of our motorcycling BIG BROTHER. That says more about the spirit and passion of those promoters.

Good luck to the MA event, I hope it is a rip snorter. But a bit of humility and simple courtesy could have avoided all this angst.

But... if MA treat the participants of the event with the same contempt that they display to their other loyal promoters then the event will be a pig circus [and yes, I will be there to see it].
VMX-Honda

[Board]

Well well well,

They say that you should never let facts get in the way of a good story.
The "three" events that VMX Honda is talking about are:
1. The Barry Sheene memorial road race. I suggest that you check again and you will find that this has run on only one Easter (2008) with the traditional date being February.
2. Classic Dirt. The date of this has varied but I have no information that Easter 2009 was an option. As already stated by them, the VMX people knew what MA wanted to do at Easter 2009.
3. The 2009 Classic MX Championships. The initial application asked to hold this at Easter  but this date was never approved by MA in any way. Traditionally this event has been on the long weekend in June.

GMC.
MA and MV are two separate bodies-both are companies and the shareholders are, in the case of MA the State Bodies, and in the case of MV, the member clubs. MV owns Broadford, not MA.

Classic MX (Scrambles) is only one part of the overall event.
Let's stop the stupid and misguided comments and enjoy ourselves at Broadford, and at the other events.

[Rossvickicampbell]

its a bit of a shame.  MA (or whomever is our controlling body) are doing the right thing by trying to promote the sport(s) (good all round) - unfortunately this time the delivery is very ordinary in moving so many others aside to do it.   Good idea maybe bad execution - on purpose or with little thought who knows.

I have just been checking the roster and it looks like Nationals next year are a no go - hope the CD dates line up better.  I can say though if I had to choose between MA and CD then CD would get the nod based on it is my discipline of the sport, all people as interested in VMX as me and I am sure would be better than diluting that interest amongst evrything that MA will have.

AJ and guys - keep going with CDXXXXXXXXXX

FWIW

cheers

Rossco

[Nathan S]

Nathan, somebody else did start building HL frames years ago, bagged me in their sales pitch but then fell by the wayside when it got too hard for the money.

Fair call, but that's sorta the point I was making:
In the VMX market, anyone can offer a product, but they've got to have a product that's worthy of customer support (price/quality/niche), and they've gotta be willing to put their heart and soul into it.
Without all of those things, it'll fall over, nothing surer.
And the established players who have a good product and the dedication will carry on unhindered.