Who knows there Honda's

[Slakewell]

What is the difference between an XL 185 and a XR 200?
I have looked in the workshop manual and the bore and stroke is the same for both models?

[Tim754]

XL185 63 x 57.8
XR200 65 x 57.8    I checked three different sources of the ones I have Slakewell . Cheers Tim754

Ah ha I also have a shop manual that has the same ( I assume ) misprint. Also have a 1mm oversize kit for XL185 in front of me and the box lists it at 64 x 58

[Slakewell]

Thanks I Mr Honda wouldn't lie to me 
But it dosent seem very hard to bore an XL 185 out to a big bore 200 either?

[smed]

XL185=5 speed
XR185=6 speed
XR200=6 speed

 

[Simo63]

XL185=5 speed
XR185=6 speed
XR200=6 speed

 

And I think XL125s=6 speed as well

[smed]

XL185=5 speed
XR185=6 speed
XR200=6 speed

 

And I think XL125s=6 speed as well   

Yep you are right Craig

[Tim754]

But it doesn't seem very hard to bore an XL 185 out to a big bore 200 either?   Sssshhhh don't let bag out of the kitty

I have two CB750 engines here that have XL185 oversize piston kits fitted, making one about 798cc and the other about 820cc, straight bore outs as the piston pin size,,piston top and skirt depth are the same as CB754 stock. Can use stock size gaskets too

You mentioned amount of gears somewhere?

[smed]

Slakey didn't mention gears Tim,but he did ask the difference between the 2,the 6 cog box is what makes the XR200 motor such a gem

[Slakewell]

Maybe its just me but back in the ealry 90's these old XR 200's filled the back shed of bike shops and farm sheds, but now they have all vanished

[Simo63]

Maybe its just me but back in the ealry 90's these old XR 200's filled the back shed of bike shops and farm sheds, but now they have all vanished

I've got one of the rare little beasties hiding in my back shed ... well the 82 Prolink version. Top little bike

[smed]

Here's one but it could be a pig in a poke,the crankcases are silver & should be black I.E.,may not be the right motor,the only way is to know for sure is by the  the engine # which should start with  ME04E-********, Plus it sounds like the donk maybe knackered anyway ,If you only want a motor remember Honda re released the 2V motor in the XR200 with the uprated chassis in 86 & went through till about 2,000,you may pick one of them up right Technically not a vintage motor though http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-XR200R-DIRT-BIKE-/331211536897?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item4d1dbefa01&_uhb=1

Here's a late model job http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-XR200-2002-trail-bike-1-950-/271496588908?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item3f36752e6c&_uhb=1

[Simo63]

Here's one but it could be a pig in a poke,the crankcases are silver & should be black I.E.,may not be the right motor,the only way is to know for sure is by the  the engine # which should start with  ME04E-********, Plus it sounds like the donk maybe knackered anyway ,If you only want a motor remember Honda re released the 2V motor in the XR200 with the uprated chassis in 86 & went through till about 2,000,you may pick one of them up right Technically not a vintage motor though http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-XR200R-DIRT-BIKE-/331211536897?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item4d1dbefa01&_uhb=1

Here's a late model job http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-XR200-2002-trail-bike-1-950-/271496588908?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item3f36752e6c&_uhb=1

Yep looks like an XL185 motor which was a common swap when the XR motor let go as XL motors were cheap and a straight bolt in.  But did you have a look at the pictures ... the last 2 are backwards (how do you do that ??) so it looks like a RH side drive chain

[Tim754]

Yep agree definitely has that XL185 look, the Agi-bike CT185 engine was known to end up in XR200's too, not a speed demon.....

[the stig]

    I have an 83 XR 200 6 Speed    I also have an 84  XL 200  5 Speed

    Only the later XL 200 had 6 speed boxes for the American market

    According to my XL 200 work shop manual

     The stig

[the stig]

XL185=5 speed
XR185=6 speed
XR200=6 speed

 

    Also the XL 200 had the same bottom end as the 185 S motor ...

    The Stig..