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Offline Freakshow

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #105 on: February 04, 2014, 02:30:53 pm »
if its in the new chapter online then its gotta be on the bike Ted.
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #106 on: February 04, 2014, 02:51:57 pm »
what a crock of shite!!  Rule #2387.62B clearly states Riders must wear Titanium chain mail gloves
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #107 on: February 04, 2014, 02:58:40 pm »
if its in the new chapter online then its gotta be on the bike Ted.
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Is it there?

If so, where is it?
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #108 on: February 04, 2014, 04:01:40 pm »
There is nothing in the chapter on Classic MX/Dirt track that talks of the final drive sprocket having to be covered  Only the primary drive
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2014, 04:52:55 pm »
There is nothing in the chapter on Classic MX/Dirt track that talks of the final drive sprocket having to be covered  Only the primary drive

Exactly

2013 MANUAL OF MOTORCYCLE SPORT
Chapter 12

12.1
APPLICATION OF CHAPTER
12.1.0.1
The Rules set out in this chapter are for all
disciplines.

But then when you get to

12.8.8.6
Other than CMX/CDT,
a chain guard
made of suitable material must be fitted
in a way to prevent trapping between the
lower drive chain run and the final drive
sprocket at the rear wheel.

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« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 05:03:19 pm by Mick D »
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2014, 04:57:36 pm »
See where it says other than

I am interpreting that as>>>>> Chain entrapment guards on rear sprockets are necessary for every discipline except Classic MX and Classic Dirt track
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2014, 05:08:57 pm »
Well done Mick D, However the minutes of the CMX&CDT commission which were approved by the MA Board ask for the exemption to be removed.  It isn't in the new MOMS yet.  But MA are aware of the omission, it is only a matter of time.
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2014, 05:16:01 pm »
Well OK then, since it is the beginning of the season, maybe a grace period for compliance would be in order if they are going to list it as an update for the yet to be published 2014 moms?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 05:19:30 pm by Mick D »
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« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2014, 05:43:07 pm »
I see other compliance's, such as limiting suspension travel for one example. As a much bigger job, but we all have sucked it up and complied.

If it comes down to comply or park it with this one? than the answer is easy. Rub it in the dirt(dummy) and tell some one who will reckon your hard done by again :'(, or get off your keyboard and grab your drill and jig saw.

A 1mm-ish piece of flat steel(stainless) plate
 or- 3mm-ish aluminum plate
 or- just add a roughy from 3mm-ish plastic lid of the a-hole neighbors wheelie bin to start with. Just cable tie it in place so no one can put their fingers or clothing between the chain as it feeds on to the return lower portion of the rear sprocket. Then after the first race, you can spy some clever fuks master-piece and copy it. Hell you could even bullshit how clever you are then.

I am pretty sure all bikes have Chain guides,,,,,,,,,don't they??  well there your attachment point.
We all seem to show of how clever we are on a resto when we locate and drill holes in new plastics, etc. Well this is just as simple, is just a flat plate.

If you are inclined to over engineer,,,,well then create an attachment point to accommodate a longer bolt on the lower shock mounting point(spacer if necessary).
Or in the case of a single shock,,,,if you feel like you need a different attachment point?? use metal plate and machine the same equivalent thickness of your axle spacer and use your axle to locate it. link a second point to anywhere ,,,,,so easy.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 05:54:05 pm by Mick D »
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2014, 05:47:57 pm »
OK here is the 2014 MOMS that they have released on a website to which i keep refering. 2013 is now dead this is the new moms hope the bloody link works
from MA: quote
The manual contains the rules and guidelines for participating in and conducting Motorcycle Sport, and includes the General Competition Rules as well as other relevant information on Motorcycle Sport.

The rules are designed to ensure fair and safe competition for all involved.

Rule changes made in the last 12 months have been bolded, and rule deletions made in the last 12 months have been struck through. Any new rule changes come into effect on 1 January 2014.

A MoMS application for mobile devices will be available soon. The MoMS website and app is provided for members to access the General Competition Rules in lieu of printed manuals provided in previous years.



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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2014, 05:56:23 pm »
OK then, our beloved NSW MA website seems to not have updated yet.
http://www.motorcycling.com.au/pg_disp.php?page=p05
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2014, 06:00:19 pm »
tytpical isn't Mick depends where you look as to whether they are all up to date I received my copy last week by email from MA, that's all i can say.  I then just checked MA's website to see that I was correct.  No wonder there are so many arguements over regs when the governing bodies can't get there sh*** together

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #117 on: February 04, 2014, 06:12:04 pm »
So true ;D

Anyhow,,,,, I am going to give up for a while and wait to see if some one else can find the relative inclusion in the new 2014 Moms,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Because, I cannot find it.

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #118 on: February 04, 2014, 06:14:04 pm »
since this has come down to a MOMS thing - simple question - when did back protectors become compulsory?
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #119 on: February 04, 2014, 06:17:10 pm »
find it in writing before you mention it Ross, I've never seen it, though i haven't looked for it.  Its the same as kill switches and handle bar padding, no mention in MOMS for Classic MX about having to have them.  Few discussions were had at the NATS over kill switches.  No mention in MOMS therefore not legally required
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