Triumph powered what???

[Davey Crocket]

You'd have to get yourself one of those flipapino brides Firko if you built something like that.....there would 20 hours a week polishing to keep it shiney. How's the barista going?....has that injury inflicted upon you by that chinesse chinka footpeg healed yet?.....should have listened to me about those rubbish footpegs....you nearly lost a leg and you wheren't even riding it!!!!! ....imagine what could happen if you put weight on one?.

[firko]

The pegs are NOS KTM items . I replaced the Chinese things the week before, the leg looks ugly but its healing pretty well. I've got seven nickel plated frames/bikes and have the polishing down to an art.....thanks for the Philipino suggestion though. The Barista is doing it very tough.....PM sent.

[firko]

Here's a Trackmaster Bonneville worth watching.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Triumph-Bonneville-/200987994268?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

[FourstrokeForever]

WoW. That trackmaster in your pic Firko is sex on wheels. Might just be a bit too pretty for a racer though!

[firko]

WoW. That trackmaster in your pic Firko is sex on wheels. Might just be a bit too pretty for a racer though

My Trackmaster frame isn't quite as pristine as the shiny one but it is a pretty unique bit of kit, being one of only two built with the adjustable swingarm pivot. Because I'm not a fan of re-nickeling old frames I'll be experimenting with one of the newish "chrome" paint techniques that are available. This forum's SON is currently using my frame to set up a jig for his own unwelded 'kit' Trackmaster frame. I originally had a 650 Benelli motor in mine but since I've now sold that humungous lump I'll probably opt to fit my 650 Trumpy motor. Unfortunately the frame's invalid for pre 65, having been made in 1974........ or maybe it is legal, I don't quite follow the new frame provisions for pre 65.
                                                             

[firko]

Here's one from left field...a Triumph unit 500 powered Kawasaki F21M. It puts the compact size of the T100 unit motor in perspective, slotting in where a 250 2 stroke usually sits.
                                                                                                   
Or this one fitted to a Sprite/American Eagle early frame.
                                                                                                   

[09.0]

Well the hunt is over. The old boy took it to his as she's a bit ugly. Set up as a road trail bike with ugly guards. 650 pre unit with big bore kit ( zip kit?).
I never took a photo of it. Old mate has more triumphs than you can poke a stick at. With some bsa's, nortons and an Enfield here and there.
He owned a British bike shop in the us. I need a bigger/ better seat. Is there such a thing as am over the counter seat or base?

[firko]

Good one Brad. I was talking to a couple of blokes today who have been away from VMX since 1999 and one's building pre 65 (a Gold Star DB34 Metisse) and the other bloke a pre 60 (TriBSA). There is a lot of interest in resurrecting these old classes and it's more deep rooted than just a couple of threads on here talking it up. Pre 70 is going through a bit of a tune up as well. The classic classes are still the meat and potatoes of VMX and if the vibe at the Moto Park Nats is any indication, it will be for a long time yet. I can't wait to see the photos of your new bike mate. I love your old Dads enthusiasm .

Here are some seats on Brit eBay. Perhaps our British friends (Ben, Grouty etc) can help with some leads. I'm interested in one myself. I specifically want an accessory  Wassell scrambles seat.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIALS-SEAT-CLASSIC-TWIN-SHOCK-PRE-65-LIGHTWEIGHT-SEAT-GREEVES-COTTON-BSA-/380615940453?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item589e7a5965
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-TWIN-SHOCK-STYLE-TRIALS-SEAT-IDEAL-PRE-1965-BSA-C15-B40-B44-GREEVES-ETC-/370891561385?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item565adc19a9
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Trials-MX-Single-Seat-Twinshock-Pre65-project-brand-new-/231092144662?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item35ce2a4a16
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Narrow-Trails-Seat-ideal-for-pre-65-trails-Bantam-Cub-/300840593729?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item460b7f2941

[09.0]

I like the seat on the bitsa #50 bike.

[bazza]

Welcome Brad,   Darth Vada

[firko]

A very unusual big block Triumph...not Weber carb, Vern Grayson has one on his BSA 750 flat tracker and swears by it.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/triumph-bonneville-unit-engine-750cc-Special-Race-triton-tribsa-magnesium-/390693662937?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5af72830d9
A very special unit construction 750cc triumph bonneville engine.

Bore 76mm Stroke 82mm.

Magnesium timing cover. Magnesium Clutch cover. Magnesium inlet manifold.

42mm Webber twin choke  carb.

Joe Hunt magneto.

High Compression forged pistons.

Forged alloy conrods.

Anodised alloy timing gears.

Anodised aircraft alloy clutch drum and eng sprocket.

Forged alloy rockers on needle rollers.

Special oiling system with screw on oil filter.

Racing valves / springs.

Norris racing cams. R followers

Gasflowed head.

Lightened and balnced crank.

New unstamped crankcases.

New cylinder.

Plus used crankcase comes with engine.

This is a very special engine which will look great in any bike and go like hell.

Engine will be sold complete and rebuilt into the new crankcases.

Not cheap but a fraction of what it cost to build!!

Would take something interesting in Part Ex?
 

[euro bikes]

I've come in a bit late on this thread, what is wrong with a 650 twin Yamaha it would be more reliable than a pommy bike and cheaper for parts. I'm sure they were around to be legal for pre75.

[FourstrokeForever]

Well the hunt is over. The old boy took it to his as she's a bit ugly. Set up as a road trail bike with ugly guards. 650 pre unit with big bore kit ( zip kit?).
I never took a photo of it. Old mate has more triumphs than you can poke a stick at. With some bsa's, nortons and an Enfield here and there.
He owned a British bike shop in the us. I need a bigger/ better seat. Is there such a thing as am over the counter seat or base?

Welcome to pommy land Brad  So you've gone the pre65 route huh? You will know you've been riding after racing the big beastie, no matter what frame you put it in.

WoW. That trackmaster in your pic Firko is sex on wheels. Might just be a bit too pretty for a racer though

My Trackmaster frame isn't quite as pristine as the shiny one but it is a pretty unique bit of kit, being one of only two built with the adjustable swingarm pivot. Because I'm not a fan of re-nickeling old frames I'll be experimenting with one of the newish "chrome" paint techniques that are available. This forum's SON is currently using my frame to set up a jig for his own unwelded 'kit' Trackmaster frame. I originally had a 650 Benelli motor in mine but since I've now sold that humungous lump I'll probably opt to fit my 650 Trumpy motor. Unfortunately the frame's invalid for pre 65, having been made in 1974........ or maybe it is legal, I don't quite follow the new frame provisions for pre 65.
                                                             

The Trackmaster is a very light looking frame Firko. It doesn't look capable of holding a big pommy lump even though we know they do. I guess there would have to be some serious head stays made up?

[jimg1au]

then there is also this what I was going to build still have most of this before I got a yetman triumph 1 of 2 I know off in the world

[firko]

The Trackmaster is a very light looking frame Firko. It doesn't look capable of holding a big pommy lump even though we know they do. I guess there would have to be some serious head stays made up? 

                                                                                 
As you can see from the above photo of a T140 Bonneville frame, the Trackmaster is based off the Triumph Bonneville concept and it's been around in the same basic design since Ray Hemsley started producing them in 1969. The Americans mostly used Triumph geometry for their aftermarket frames while the Brits (Metisse, Cheney) essentially used the BSA Gold Star frame for their layout inspiration. The Trackmaster is pretty light all right but I don't think it'll need any head stay support more than what's on it. My frame is made for an XS650 Yamaha as you can see from the head mount bracket mounting tabs and lack of 'oil in frame' provisions on the top rail....the Triumph doesn't have a head stay but I may use it if I can find somewhere to attach it to the Triumph engine. I'll use an oil tank on mine. The Trackmaster is essentially the flat track frame that started the whole lightweight aftermarket frame concept and you'll find that nearly all of the available period frames have the same, or very similar geometry even though their designs might be very different. Even though the Trackmaster was made for flat track, many were used for desert racing back when the Triumph ruled the desert. I'm not sure if I'll build mine for flat track or motocross......or as a street tracker. It's a couple of years away yet.
Below: the proper Triumph Trackmaster frame showing 'oil in frame' top frame rail.