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Triumph powered what???
« on: November 09, 2013, 04:06:37 pm »
Don't know if many realised that I rode a 76 Maico that is powered by a triumph last weekend. I was offered the ride and thought why not, wouldn't mind doing a couple more laps!
So the seed has been sown. Now what do I put a triumph in? Will it be competitive in pre 75 four stroke?
Maico square barrel frame?

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013, 04:24:56 pm »
I'm just walking out the door to go to the hospital to see my mum so I'll think about your question while I'm away and give my 2 bobs worth when I get back ;D........in the meantime here's Brad on Doug Atchison's AW650.
                                                                                                 
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 04:30:44 pm »
Well IMO a nice CZ frame and running gear would build a nice Trump engine pre 75 fourstroke. Would need a alloy tank thou as all fourstroke hot rod bikes do. 
Current bikes. KTM MC 250 77 Husky CR 360 77, Husky 82 420 Auto Bitsa XR 200 project. Dont need a pickle just need to ride my motorcickle

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 04:31:24 pm »
Brad i knew you would come over to the dark side!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2013, 04:46:38 pm »
Brad i knew you would come over to the dark side!!
The sweet sweet sound is like the pied piper. Luring me in.

Well IMO a nice CZ frame and running gear would build a nice Trump engine pre 75 fourstroke. Would need a alloy tank thou as all fourstroke hot rod bikes do. 
The alloy tank is a given. We (dad and I) already have most parts to do one as a Cz. But I think I would rather do a Maico framed one.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2013, 04:48:28 pm »
Don't know if many realised that I rode a 76 Maico that is powered by a triumph last weekend. I was offered the ride and thought why not, wouldn't mind doing a couple more laps!
So the seed has been sown. Now what do I put a triumph in? Will it be competitive in pre 75 four stroke?
Maico square barrel frame?

you told me once this would never ever happen ::) ;D

I'm not sure what the opposite of a keeper is, but this is it!

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 06:32:37 pm »
The Triumph engine is a really good starter for a hot rod Brad. I've got a T100 500 the same as Verns that's going into a BSA C15 250 frame for pre 60. Those little Trumpy engines hoot and they're so small they fit in just about everything from a Rickman Zundapp to a Maico. A good conversion is to fit one to a Sprite/American Eagle/Alron frame which would be legal for pre 65, 70 and 75. The 650 engine like in Doug's AW is a fair bit bigger and I doubt it'd fit either the Maico or CZ without lengthening the cradle. I'm going to fit my 650 into a lightened stock frame for pre 65 and later as a street tracker. I'd be using the 650 for pre 65 if I was you, they're arguably the best engine (bar Matchless) and you can fit them to all sorts of frames. For pre 75 it's a lot more difficult because of the size of the bugger. The little 500 motor is almost as quick but much smaller and adaptable.........just my 2 bobs worth.

Below...just to prove that a 500 Triumph in a 70's Rickman Zundapp isn't all bullshit, here's one in street trim. Imagine it with serious pre 75 suspension and you'd have a great little pre 75 four stroke class racer
                                                                                     
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Re: Triumph powered what???
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 06:39:24 pm »
Triumph 500cc twin power in a Rickman  Zundapp frame, sounds neat! Do have frame don't have Triumph 500, do have Honda 500 four engine or three Hmmm ...stop it Tim stop it...!   But..... ;)
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 06:49:03 pm »
Here's a 500 Triumph in a 250 Sprite/American Eagle frame.
                                                                                             
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2013, 06:52:45 pm »
Ya messin with my already demented mind Mark :) The Sprite looks a treat!
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2013, 07:37:32 pm »
Ha .... joining the 4 stroke brigade at last.
 
John Kemp has  something similar ???? you rode it at Nudgee a couple of months ago and the noise they make are unreal.  Bitten by the 4 stroke bug at last   ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 08:35:28 am »
Triumph 500cc twin power in a Rickman  Zundapp frame, sounds neat! Do have frame don't have Triumph 500, do have Honda 500 four engine or three Hmmm ...stop it Tim stop it...!   But..... ;)
Tim those trumpys come up for reasonable money , if you have the frame your half way there  :) and you have the skills to make it happen .

Would be a great project , and the forums overdue for a good project build 8)

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 09:37:40 am »
Excellent....another four stroke convert to add to the ranks. And....another hot rod builder  ;D I didn't think you'd ever come to that Brad.

Like Firko has said, the smaller T100 trumpy is a great motor and go like the clappers. I've ridden a T100 Metisse and it was a real treat to ride. I found the Metisse chassis a bit cramped for my height though.

Why not consider building a TriBsa? I reckon the T100 would fit in a B50 frame. In my opinion, the B50 is a great handling bike once you have a decent fork and shock combination on them. The B50 frame is much stronger than the earlier C15 or B40 frame too.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 09:48:22 am »
What about this one Brad

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=655449791

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Re: Triumph powered what???
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 09:54:38 am »
My [nowdays longleg'ed RT1] had a 3TA motor in it on the road in std RT1/2/3 trim. Had to pat the front down tubes back a little to fit the 360 back in but no engine mounts were altered by memory [30 years ago or so]. So--going by that i'd say one of those 3TA/5TA/T100 type motors would easily slot into the next generation frame--from MX250/360/SC500 on as from then on the motors were longer--plus i suppose Mx250B/YZ250C & 400's of course.