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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2013, 08:10:35 pm »
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Keep it simple boys how many races did the YZ360 win let alone championships,

I know this only enduro and doesn't count because it's not MX ::)  But it did win a championship. 

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Stephane Peterhansel Yamaha YZ 360 WR(Kit Öhlins) Team Yamaha Sonauto,champion de France 1989.


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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2013, 08:19:47 pm »
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Thanks for posting that, I would have it packed away in a box but you've made it easy.

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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2013, 08:23:39 pm »
Having ridden Peter Grubers (BILLETYZ) example of this bike in anger around Broadford I reckon it is probably the most tractable useable powered bike I have ever ridden, awesome snap out of corners with a very healthy top end hit as well.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2013, 08:31:24 pm »
YZ400 based piston
YZ490 based rod
I have learnt a bit already
But no good without a barrell.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2013, 08:48:24 pm »
You guys are painting a much better picture of it than Doug Dubach did.. There is one up here I could probably swing a leg over

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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2013, 09:41:15 pm »
Is this based on the WR engine I know it has a longer stroke than the YZ.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2013, 10:14:59 pm »
Is this based on the WR engine I know it has a longer stroke than the YZ.

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The WR250 motor was very closely related to the YZ motor of the same year - never a difference in the stroke (except, for a slim possibility of 1996, when the WR motor was still the old 94 YZ motor and the '96 YZ got a big update).
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2013, 08:05:17 am »
94 got a longer stroke Yamaha must have shown some interest in the ohlins kit.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2013, 09:05:26 am »
Sorry guys, YZ250s from 90 to 98 had the same stroke. in the mid 90s, Yamaha experimented with the long rod kit with good results. This became the major upgrade of '99...The Long Rod kit worked well, I built about 6 myself, using the rod from an earlier model YZ & a 5.63mm spacer plate.YZ & YZ (WR) 250s of the 90s had the same motor, with the exception of a wide ratio gearbox...Hope this helps the debate...
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2013, 11:32:12 am »
Sorry guys, YZ250s from 90 to 98 had the same stroke. in the mid 90s, Yamaha experimented with the long rod kit with good results. This became the major upgrade of '99...The Long Rod kit worked well, I built about 6 myself, using the rod from an earlier model YZ & a 5.63mm spacer plate.YZ & YZ (WR) 250s of the 90s had the same motor, with the exception of a wide ratio gearbox...Hope this helps the debate...
In my humble opinion...

I was not clear last night... The basic point I was trying to make is that the 95 YZ got a minor update, and the 96 YZ got a significant update, but the 95 & 96 WRs were the same bike as the 94 WR - by 96, the YZ & WR were quite different bikes, simply due to the lack of updates to the WR (Bold New Graphics don't count...). That may have allowed a difference to creep in, but it wasn't a designed-in difference between the two - just a by-product of Yamaha's neglect of the WR.

In 1997, the two were brought back into line again.

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The 95 YZ250 motor was the same basic animal as the 94 YZ & 94 WR. The main change to the 95 YZ motor was the updated barrel, which had a different power valve (added a resonance chamber on the LHS side of the barrel), different exhaust pipe flange, and tweaked porting.
I'm 99% sure that there was also a tweak to the cylinder head too, to try to avoid the 94 motor's tendency to ping.
The 95 & 96 WR motors missed out on those updates.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2013, 01:46:28 pm »
& a kehin carb (for 95)...I had a 96 from new & the 95 was heaps better! (motor wise)...
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2013, 02:35:15 pm »
& a kehin carb (for 95)...I had a 96 from new & the 95 was heaps better! (motor wise)...
In my humble opinion...

Ah, yes - wasn't thinking about carbs.
Pretty sure the 94~96 WRs actually had an ancient round-slide Mikuni on them. The 89/90 YZ250WRs had Mikuni flat slides like the YZs, so it seems weird that Yamaha went backwards in the early/mid 90s.
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2013, 02:41:37 pm »
Nice and pre 90
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Re: Wanted Ohlins YZ360 Kit / Barrell (Noleen in USA)
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2013, 05:05:15 pm »
just listened to Shaun Kalos on BTO podcast with Mathes, he airs his views on 360 kit he rode as a factory rider ( around 47 min mark ).
RH250 TM125 RM125B RM125C RM125T RM125X RM250B RM250C2 RM250X RM250N RM370A RM400C RM400N RM400T PE175D YZ250A XR75 x2 XR80 TTR125 CRF250X BLASTER S2R yz80d yx600