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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2013, 08:51:23 am »
Pile of shite Tim, too heavy and too old. very good for pre75 but unless you spend a pile on one to make it go, there are lots of options instead. You could make a Triumph go as well.
The GRM version is the best of them, but ask Wally what they're worth :D The GR650 we use is quicker and lighter (15kg)std and has all the fruit already fitted.

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2013, 11:16:39 am »
Hey Shelpi, how far is it to the airport from the track at Gillman???
If I come down could someone pick me up and deliver me back airport Sunday night????
About 20 clicks as the crow flies and yes let me know ;) Im excited 8)

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2013, 11:20:32 am »
Shelpi a bit of info about a mistake I nearly made. When looking to build a pre85 lighterweight. ::). I sourced a pretty cheap LT 500 quadzilla engine, believing they came out in 84. Wrong production of those brutal power plants was from 85 till 90. The early RM 500 are kosher.
thanx Tim, like ya thinking ;) oh and the T250 donk should be here midweek thanx again and may the motocycle Gods be willing ;)

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2013, 11:27:42 am »
Yeah mate, just a quick warm up.....'cept those South Aussies would have been out for a 100k bike ride before breaky.

Sure a big 2 smoker is kosher for pre  85 but in the spirit of the sport the big twins were in their twylight then and they deserve to be preserved in that light. If we let an influx of lightweights into that class, all the big old girls will get parked in sheds and forgotten, just as they were back then....mark my words.
Best 'real' engines for the class are the 650+ twins and they come from a big range of makers......I know you like to think outside the square Shelpi, but for the for the good of the class, stick to them. They are fun to ride too.
I had a swing on a CR500 yesterday and found it was very easy to get around on , but by crickey, you had to be on your toes as I only had to imagine a different line and I could get it to change direction...prob set up way too soft for Echo Valley,  so I prefer they older bikes for what we do.
If you want to go big 2 stroke/lightweight, go to a pre90. You'll have lots of cheap fun and step your way into moderns mutch more easily.
Yes you are right, was attempting a all rounder so it could do pre90 and B grade or road trial (cos they are mostly moderns) it would be great to have 1 of each but not easy being a peasant plus I fear divorce :P

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2013, 11:29:02 am »

Sure a big 2 smoker is kosher for pre  85 but in the spirit of the sport the big twins were in their twylight then and they deserve to be preserved in that light. If we let an influx of lightweights into that class, all the big old girls will get parked in sheds and forgotten, just as they were back then....mark my words.
Best 'real' engines for the class are the 650+ twins and they come from a big range of makers......I know you like to think outside the square Shelpi, but for the for the good of the class, stick to them. They are fun to ride too.


That was a very good post EML  8)
yes, yes it was Wasp ;)

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2013, 11:30:24 am »
XS 650 cc Precisely what I recommended earlier in this very same thread ;)

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2013, 12:50:14 pm »
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what would be the best donk for a Pre85 MX  sidecar ???
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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2013, 01:20:27 pm »
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Well in that case why not a water cooled 500 Maico engine with a Zabel or MTH big kit? The Maico engine would be one of the mechanically strongest and gruntiest of the 80's 500's which I'd assume would be just what a sidecar needs.
My fluck up....the '84 Maico is air cooled. Basically the same engine though. Forget the water cooled MTH or Zabel top ends and keep it stock, they're worldbeaters in stock trim. Suzuki water bottle would be a good choice of engine too.

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2013, 01:29:46 pm »
Well in that case why not a water cooled 500 Maico engine with a Zabel or MTH big kit? The Maico engine would be one of the mechanically strongest and gruntiest of the 80's 500's which I'd assume would be just what a sidecar needs.
:) ;) sounds good are there plenty around and whats the parts situation on availability and price ???

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2013, 02:52:40 pm »
Suzuki water bottle :D

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2013, 10:42:03 am »
Scott  ;)

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2013, 11:23:35 am »
Scott  ;)
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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2013, 11:38:50 am »
Scott  ;)
1927 Scott clubman special watercooled twin 700cc ....neighbour has one in his shed.
:o lucky Bastard 8) just immajen doin a 21st centry on it, bit port work, some nice carbs, pvl...........  :P woops

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2013, 03:00:20 pm »
Does Popeye know, his is costing a bomb to rebuild.

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Re: What would be the best Donk
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2013, 06:42:25 pm »
Yes I'm very interested in your 540 Walter could PM me with the details or I can ring you for details.....
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