Simplicity and bullshit ( but we can fix it )

[Slakewell]

Much the same as Col.
I have seen it all before, the reason things are shit is apathy I have no love at all for MA and the way it is structured and until you understand how MA is structured you will continue to think that it should function.
The only long term solution to ALL Australian competition motorcycling needs is a complete overhaul of MA and a new constitution. It would take thousands of vested interests to unite and we simply have far to much apathy for that. This again will turn out to be just another chest beating exercise which will die down and disappear in  few weeks time. Why not put your energy into something like getting the nats back on track?   

[John Orchard]

^^^^^^  Agreed

[FourstrokeForever]

Yep!

I think it would be reasonable for us to expect that MA MV MCNSW or any other controlling body to take this debacle over and get the Nats back on track.

MA invests OUR money in a stagnant museum (that no one gets to see) and no doubt make a bucket load of coin from their new insurance venture that comes from US. 

The top lot all use vehicles that WE pay for when they actually get off their arses and attend meetings.

How about investing some of OUR money into a sport that they make money off of!

For too long they have been riding the wave of money paid for by local clubs to host national events.

Controlling bodies make the $$$$$$ from these events WITHOUT ANY RISK while the hosting club struggles to make ends meet......

[TM BILL]

Can anyone tell me what MAs mission statement is ?

[Slakewell]

To the best of my knowledge so feel free to correct me.
MA NSW has over 10 million in trust plus offices in Sydney worth 2 million and they own no land you can ride on. Think about that for minute.
Does this organization do what it's membership believes it should do? 

[FourstrokeForever]

To the best of my knowledge so feel free to correct me.
MA NSW has over 10 million in trust plus offices in Sydney worth 2 million and they own no land you can ride on. Think about that for minute.
Does this organization do what it's membership believes it should do?

None of the controlling bodies do what we think they should be doing!

As far as I'm concerned, it's all about "global business models".

Just like the banks, forget about the punters, they (we) have to pay somehow 

[Slakewell]

Can anyone tell me what MAs mission statement is ?

Its not on there website. But then there website is very dysfunctional and maybe I just cant find it. 

There is this thou.
http://www.motorcycling.com.au/PDF_Files/General/au_strategicplan.pdf

Cliff notes
This a business plan for 2009/2013
The only things finished on this plan are out of the 100 odd listed ( better get a hurry on as 2013 is just about over)
1) Move into new offices
2)Enforce code of conduct
3) Award night for clubs who have done good stuff
4) Make $100,000 available for club grants. 

[FourstrokeForever]

Is that 100k still available?

A small chunk of that could go along way to getting a host club I'm sure

[Slakewell]

Is that 100k still available?

A small chunk of that could go along way to getting a host club I'm sure

The 100k was per year across all clubs

[EML]

Is that 100k still available?

A small chunk of that could go along way to getting a host club I'm sure

which brings us back to my argument....as seen above.

[bazza]

Interesting how things have not changed. I took Ray Ryan to Auckland speedway one night and he said if only we could run our own sport and just peg out a track and ride like you guys. At this stage VMX mag was starting and the C/Dirt seed had started to develope, 2 years later i took Ray to "old thumpers" in the south island,again he was jealous of the just run a meeting where ever you want attitude. How many years ago was that and nothing has changed.

[Slakewell]

Bazza
This is my opinion. MA NSW has no reason to change. They who run it are doing just fine thanks for asking. There well paid and have a very nice office too pretend to work from. They answer to no one and dont for second think David White can do anything. If it wasn't for pesky bike racers life would be perfect for them after all they are not really needed anymore for income but the extra money is handy.
Since MA NSW became insolvent back in the 90's ( after they pissed away all the spare cash on running the GP ) They have done nothing but hoard money away so there is no chance of losing there jobs again, this is first and foremost the business plan all the fee's they raised to save there ass back in 90's have never been lowered afterwards ( Like what was promised )  and have only continued to rise.
Enough ranting what we need is a Australian title this year and moaning about MA wont fix that.

[micks]

slakewell why call it ma nsw when it is mnsw. mnsw does have land at nowra which it is  developing which all take`s time.as for money in the bank i don`t think mnsw have that much but you are right about the offices but under valued the property side of mnsw and it was the acu that went insolvent.

[Nathan S]

I'd love to know what the story is behind the Nowra MCC handing over their grounds to MNSW.
I'd not seen/heard anything from the NDMCC suggesting that they were having trouble maintaining the land - I don't know what was in it for the club.

[Slakewell]

Sorry if I a tad slow on the acronyms side of things but that's bureaucracy for you they change the heading on the stationary faster than the toilet paper.
Now back to the holy Nowra site that's been in the wind for how long now? If you where to measure that against our QLD brothers and there newly acquired facility near Harrisville I'm sure you could see the embarrassment.
As for money in the bank why not email them and ask that question and post the reply right here and disprove my numbers?