What is f&*ed is the attitude to fellow riders ... kinda you know "we'll give you a call when we need you to make up the numbers"...cheers guys... Ah you guys only have 20 riders etc
Everyone has jumped on Nathan and myself with the exception of Bill and some other smoother opinions.... over fundamentally us expressing a desire to be validated as a vintage class...
Pretty shit to be marginalized in what is the same as what all Pre-85 guys do ...race, repair,...repeat...
I know i have had enough...delete me Grahame .... I'll go and race Enduro and Moderns....
3858 don't be like that, nobody has had a go at you or Nathan. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else but when they don't agree don't pack up your bat and ball and go home mate.
Here is what I wrote, repeated here for simplicity:
There is no Pre-95 scene that I am aware of and no one is advocating one.
Go back 10 years and there was no Pre 90 either. And I think pre 85 was a bit on the nose in some circles. (still is in a club up this way at the moment).
Look I'm not having a go at pre 90 (god I have 1 or 2 of these bikes myself and really enjoyed racing my 89 CR250 last weekend at the Classic) but I will say that these things change over time as is the natural progression of things. In my humble opinion, pre 90 is just starting to be popular and in 10 years time it will be a very accepted part of the sport and pre 95 might be banging on the door?? Who knows but it's likely we will have this same discussion then 
The above was said with the best intentions and not having a go at you, Nathan or anyone else for that matter. At the Conondale Classic last weekend there appeared to be as many pre 90 bikes as there were pre 85 or Evo .... it's definitely a growing class and one that contributed to the record number of entrants. I rode my 89 CR250 along with my other older bikes and loved it. I know sitting on the pre 90 250 grid that it was jammed packed ... so much so that I got knocked off the damn bike within 30 metres of the start as the grid was a full 40 bikes. Bloody shoulder is still hurting like a bitch
Anyway, like I said, pre 90 will have it's day as will pre 95 and pre 2000 eventually. The older bikes and their riders will drop in numbers and as such it is natural progression for new, younger riders to come into the sport over time.
BUT if you want to accelerate that process then there is absolutely nothing stopping you from creating your own pre 90 VMX series. In fact one could argue that may speed up the adoption of the pre 90 class into the mainstream VMX (and Vinduro in reference to the other Veri thread) scene.
Cheers
Simo
